Fastest way to elemental fist feat?


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There has to be a better way than being level 8?

Thanks!
Widj


Elemental Fist

Special: [u]A monk of the four winds receives Elemental Fist as a bonus feat at 1st level, even if he does not meet the prerequisites.[/u] A monk may attempt an Elemental Fist attack a number of times per day equal to his monk level, plus one more time per day for every four levels he has in classes other than monk.


Take one level of Monk, Master of Many Styles or Monk of 4 Winds.


The second dragon style feat allows you to qualify and extra damage like 4 winds monk.


But only for one damage type until you meet the prereqs normally. =)

But still, yes.


Wow, that's great, thanks guys. :) I had no idea that you could get it at level one. I'm contemplating a half orc monk with elemental fist (fire) and the Fire God's Blessing Feat. Possibly monk / sorcerer though the stats for that would suck.


Widjit wrote:
Possibly monk / sorcerer though the stats for that would suck.

You could choose the Empyreal sorcerer blood line which uses Wisdom in Place of Charisma. Why not go with crossblooded Orc/Empyreal?


Cazin wrote:
Widjit wrote:
Possibly monk / sorcerer though the stats for that would suck.
You could choose the Empyreal sorcerer blood line which uses Wisdom in Place of Charisma. Why not go with crossblooded Orc/Empyreal?

You, my good sir, are a genius!


Not to start this fight again but RAW you cant crossblood wild blooded sor because technically according to 1 way to read it they don't stack. I happen to agree with the reading but don't think it would be overpowered. All I'm saying is check with your GM.


Eh, that's not necessarily needed since elemental fist works just as well, and other fire based spells can work. First draft!

"Male Monk 1/ Sorcerer 1
Init +4; Senses Perception +9, Darkvision 12 sqr
==DEFENSE==
AC 16, touch 16, flat-footed 14 (+2 dex, +4 monk bonus)
hp 8 (1d6+1d8+2)
SR 0
Fort +3, Ref +4, Will +6
Defensive Abilities AC Bonus (PFCR 57), Fire Ray (PFUM 67)
==OFFENSE==
Spd 6 sqr/x4
Melee Unarmed Strike +3 (1d6+3) 20/x2
Special Attacks Unarmed Strike (PFCR 59)
==STATISTICS==
Str 16, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 18, Cha 8
BAB +0, CMB +3, CMD +19
Feats Efreeti Style (PFUC 99 - 100), Elemental Fist (PFAPG 158), Eschew Materials (PFCR 123), Fire God's Blessing (PFCo: OoG 25), Improved Unarmed Strike (PFCR 128)
Skills Acrobatics +6, Disable Device +7, Knowledge (planes) +5, Perception +9
SU Bloodline (PFCR 71), Bloodline Powers (0), Elemental Fist (PFAPG 112), Sorcerer Spells (PFCR 70-71)
MC Bloodline Arcana (0), Eschew Materials (PFCR 71)
Traits Nimble Fingers, Keen Mind (Religion: Brigh) (PFCo: FoB 20), Reactionary (Combat) (PFAPG 328)
Languages Common, Orc

"


I just don't know. regaining 1hp 2/day just doesn't seem worth a feat slot for Fire God's Blessing IMO. Granted you'll be able to use it on any fire spells you cast but still... the more you level up the worse this feat is going to become. Toughness would serve you far better, I think.


awp832 wrote:
I just don't know. regaining 1hp 2/day just doesn't seem worth a feat slot for Fire God's Blessing IMO. Granted you'll be able to use it on any fire spells you cast but still... the more you level up the worse this feat is going to become. Toughness would serve you far better, I think.

I'm not going to argue that. You are probably correct. However, I'm not going for an optimized build here. I'm going for a theme I have in my head of something that would be really fun to play and that really works with the theme.

Eventually it would probably look something like this:

Fire Orc!:

"Male Monk 2/ Sorcerer 5
Init +8; Senses Perception +15, Darkvision 12 sqr
==DEFENSE==
AC 19, touch 17, flat-footed 17 (+2 armor, +2 dex, +5 monk bonus)
hp 41 (5d6+2d8+7)
SR 0 ; ER Fire 20
Fort +5, Ref +6, Will +10
Defensive Abilities Evasion (PFCR 68), AC Bonus (PFCR 57), Fire Ray (PFUM 67)
==OFFENSE==
Spd 6 sqr/x4
Melee Unarmed Strike +7 (1d6+4) 20/x2 CM +1
Special Attacks Unarmed Strike (PFCR 59), Elemental Resistance Efreeti (PFUM 67), Efreeti Form (PFUM 67)
==STATISTICS==
Str 16, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 21, Cha 8
BAB +3, CMB +6, CMD +23
Feats Dragon Style (PFUC 98), Efreeti Stance (PFUC 99), Efreeti Style (PFUC 99 - 100), Elemental Fist (PFAPG 158), Eschew Materials (PFCR 123), Fire God's Blessing (PFCo: OoG 25), Improved Grapple (PFCR 127), Improved Initiative (PFCR 127), Improved Unarmed Strike (PFCR 128)
Skills Acrobatics +9, Disable Device +7, Knowledge (planes) +8, Perception +15, Stealth +6
SU Bloodline (PFCR 71), Bloodline Powers (0), Elemental Fist (PFAPG 112), Sorcerer Spells (PFCR 70-71)
MC Bloodline Arcana (0), Eschew Materials (PFCR 71)
Traits Nimble Fingers, Keen Mind (Religion: Brigh) (PFCo: FoB 20), Reactionary (Combat) (PFAPG 328)
Languages Common, Orc
==Magic==
Eq'd Magic Robes of Arcane Heritage, Headband of Inspired Wisdom +2, Bracers of Armor +2
"

At this point I would probably stop the progression of the Sorcerer since he has his Efreeti form and continue on as a monk. Get the entire Efreeti line of combat style feats and probably Dragon as well.

While he's not super powerful or even incredibly optimized, he would be a TON of fun to role play.


What am I missing? How do you get the 9th level bloodline power as a 5th level sorcerer?


karossii wrote:
What am I missing? How do you get the 9th level bloodline power as a 5th level sorcerer?

Robes of Arcane Heritage,


Robe of Arcane Heritage.

This


Wow, had not seen those. How do they interact with a crossblooded sorcerer?

[edit] I ask because I think crossblooded with Orc bloodline could add some major benefits to that build...


karossii wrote:

Wow, had not seen those. How do they interact with a crossblooded sorcerer?

[edit] I ask because I think crossblooded with Orc bloodline could add some major benefits to that build...

Unfortunately I'm already using the crossblooded for Empyreum and Efreeti.

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