Demon Lords and Mythic?


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In their realm, the demon lord gets a lot of mythic powers. But outside their realm, do they count as mythic for spells that effect mythic or non-mythic creatures (can augmented mythic disintegrate kill a demon lord on the Material Plane instantly if it fails the saving throw)?

Do Demon lords have to spend mythic power to use SLA's mythic?

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Lawful GM wrote:

In their realm, the demon lord gets a lot of mythic powers. But outside their realm, do they count as mythic for spells that effect mythic or non-mythic creatures (can augmented mythic disintegrate kill a demon lord on the Material Plane instantly if it fails the saving throw)?

Do Demon lords have to spend mythic power to use SLA's mythic?

First... disintegrate doesn't auto-slay, even on a failed save. It just does a lot of damage.

But yes, I would say demons should count as mythic creatures even when outside their realm for the purposes of saving against mythic spells and the like.

They have to spend mythic power to use a mythic SLA, and THIS they can only do in their Abyssal Realm.


I really wish the Demon Lord traits were more clear on this, as it's been a target of confusion at my LGS since the first WotR Volume came out. I feel there are too many exceptions they have when it comes to mythic.

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James Jacobs wrote:
First... disintegrate doesn't auto-slay, even on a failed save. It just does a lot of damage.

Lawful GM is referring to mythic disentegrate, which does auto-slay non-mythic opponents if its caster possesses enough mythic tiers.

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Alexander Augunas wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
First... disintegrate doesn't auto-slay, even on a failed save. It just does a lot of damage.
Lawful GM is referring to mythic disentegrate, which does auto-slay non-mythic opponents if its caster possesses enough mythic tiers.

Ah, missed that.

In any event... demons are still treated as being mythic for saves anyway, so it's a moot point.

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