That was my butler.
Where's that Bat Signal when we need it?We have an answer for this. Vic is writing it up in the FAQ. Your patience is appreciated.
Wait... is Mike saying that there will be an answer to the question about BoP in the faq? Or is he saying that Vic will add something to the faq about where to find the "bat signal"? I see Vic added to the faq on Friday, but neither of these 2 seem to have been included ;)
Nice spot - I look forward to reading about the Bat Signal in the FAQ :)
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FAQ posted.
Err... that only answered half the question.
As Tracker1 suggested, does it only help when the base die of the check is decided by the spell, as is the case with an attack spell? Or would any check where a spell was cast be able to benefit from this, even if it was just a Guidance spell? And if the answer is no to Guidance because that's a static bonus instead of a die, then what about Aid?
Wow - that's the weirdest FAQ entry yet!
Seems to suggest that you can use BoP so long as anybody played any spell during that check's resolution (e.g. Guidance, Aid, Strength, Glibness) - but not on any subsequent check where (possibly the same) spell is still active.
Looks like we, the unwashed masses, were ALL wrong on this one!
Chief Technical Officer
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FAQ posted.Err... that only answered half the question.
As Tracker1 suggested, does it only help when the base die of the check is decided by the spell, as is the case with an attack spell? Or would any check where a spell was cast be able to benefit from this, even if it was just a Guidance spell? And if the answer is no to Guidance because that's a static bonus instead of a die, then what about Aid?
The text is "if a spell was played during that check". So if it's a spell, and it was played during that check, it qualifies.
If we wanted it to only apply to spells with the Attack trait, we'd have said "if a spell with the Attack trait was played during that check."
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Chief Technical Officer
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Seems to suggest that you can use BoP so long as anybody played any spell during that check's resolution (e.g. Guidance, Aid, Strength, Glibness) - but not on any subsequent check where (possibly the same) spell is still active.
If we wanted it to apply to only a spell you played, it would *say* "if you played a spell during that check."
(Also, I'm assuming you meant "previous" instead of "subsequent." Cards don't know the future...)
Thanks Vic. This is not the way I would have interpreted the card literally, but I'm happy to accept your alternate wording in the FAQ.
To add some more flavorful context to this: Blessing of Pharasma's divine energy triggers off what Pharasma wants -- you to play a spell. The Lady of Graves doesn't care whether there's an extant spell out there. She just wants to know if someone placated her by casting a spell that applies to the check.
So does this mean we're not getting a FAQ entry related to the bat signal?
The text is "if a spell was played during that check". So if it's a spell, and it was played during that check, it qualifies.
If we wanted it to only apply to spells with the Attack trait, we'd have said "if a spell with the Attack trait was played during that check."
I feel its even more important now, with this wording, to be aware of exactly when certain cards can be played. I know this has been dealt with to some extent, but I forsee players trying to "play a spell" on an unrelated check in order to take advantage of this blessing.
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I feel its even more important now, with this wording, to be aware of exactly when certain cards can be played. I know this has been dealt with to some extent, but I forsee players trying to "play a spell" on an unrelated check in order to take advantage of this blessing.The text is "if a spell was played during that check". So if it's a spell, and it was played during that check, it qualifies.
If we wanted it to only apply to spells with the Attack trait, we'd have said "if a spell with the Attack trait was played during that check."
The text is "if a spell was played during that check". So if the spell was not played on that check, you can't play this card.
If we wanted it to apply if any spell were played during the turn, it would *say* "if a spell was played on this turn."
I feel its even more important now, with this wording, to be aware of exactly when certain cards can be played. I know this has been dealt with to some extent, but I forsee players trying to "play a spell" on an unrelated check in order to take advantage of this blessing.The text is "if a spell was played during that check". So if it's a spell, and it was played during that check, it qualifies.
If we wanted it to only apply to spells with the Attack trait, we'd have said "if a spell with the Attack trait was played during that check."
The text is "if a spell was played during that check". So if the spell was not played on that check, you can't play this card.
If we wanted it to apply if any spell were played during the turn, it would *say* "if a spell was played on this turn."
Right, I don't have a problem with that. All I was trying to say is that I now see a greater possibility of people trying to play something like cure on a check so they can take advantage of the blessing. I know cure couldn't be played on a check, I'm just saying that need to be made very clear to avoid this blessing being misplayed. (I think the faq does a pretty good job at this by the way)
Wow, i guess the cards really do tell you what to do!
This is probably the most versatile blessing you could get, since you could play it on any type of check that a spell was used on.
This one really restructures how I have been playing the game. I am now afraid to find out what else i am missing.
To add some more flavorful context to this: Blessing of Pharasma's divine energy triggers off what Pharasma wants -- you to play a spell. The Lady of Graves doesn't care whether there's an extant spell out there. She just wants to know if someone placated her by casting a spell that applies to the check.
Be careful with comments like these Mike - somebody might quote it and come up with the incorrect reasoning that it means "if I cast Glibness on Seoni before her encounter then she finds a Monster that she wants to blow up with an Arcane spell then I can play BoP for two dice since there's an active spell which applies to the check".
When actually, the spell has to be CAST DURING this check sequence, not just apply to the result.
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To add some more flavorful context to this: Blessing of Pharasma's divine energy triggers off what Pharasma wants -- you to play a spell. The Lady of Graves doesn't care whether there's an extant spell out there. She just wants to know if someone placated her by casting a spell that applies to the check.
I really don't get why this is tied to Pharasma, actually. Nethys is the god of magic - shouldn't this be his blessing? Why would the goddess of death (and birth) care so much about spellcasting?
Story answer: Pharasma is the goddess of prophecy, and that seemed closest to spellcasting.
Gameplay answer: Because she's Seoni's goddess, and we wanted Seoni to want this blessing.
Also, our Blessing of Nethys is very powerful, in my opinion. That's why we left it until set 6.
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Right, I don't have a problem with that. All I was trying to say is that I now see a greater possibility of people trying to play something like cure on a check so they can take advantage of the blessing. I know cure couldn't be played on a check, I'm just saying that need to be made very clear to avoid this blessing being misplayed. (I think the faq does a pretty good job at this by the way)I feel its even more important now, with this wording, to be aware of exactly when certain cards can be played. I know this has been dealt with to some extent, but I forsee players trying to "play a spell" on an unrelated check in order to take advantage of this blessing.The text is "if a spell was played during that check". So if it's a spell, and it was played during that check, it qualifies.
If we wanted it to only apply to spells with the Attack trait, we'd have said "if a spell with the Attack trait was played during that check."
The text is "if a spell was played during that check". So if the spell was not played on that check, you can't play this card.
If we wanted it to apply if any spell were played during the turn, it would *say* "if a spell was played on this turn."
I was searching an answer to this exact question. Can I play Cure to play Blessing of Pharasma to a check.
I can only play a spell if the card affects your check.
So Cure affects the check by allowing the Blessing of Pharasma to be played on the check.
Without the Cure I can't play the blessing.
So Cure has an affect and I can play it.
Right?
Cure itself has to affect the check in order for you to be allowed to play it. And it doesn't affect the check, so you can't play it.