You mean the section that notes that the described guidelines aren't enough to go beyond 22nd or so and that Paizo may eventually publish actual rules to take the game into the epic realms, which we now know is Mythic? *insert tongue-sticking-out-emoticon here*By the time you're at 20th level, there's not much else to do besides go Mythic if the players/GM want to keep on advancing.Or you just advance to 21st level, as described in the Core Rulebook.
Mythic is not Epic by far, and some people at Paizo have mentioned that Mythic doesn't exclude then of making Epic at some point in the future, something I would be glad to see, perhaps for 2016+
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Yeah, then we could have a bunch of feats and abilities with Epic [insert name here]. And for the true powergamer, there's always Epic Mythic [insert name here].
By the time you're at 20th level, there's not much else to do besides go Mythic if the players/GM want to keep on advancing.
Maybe it's because I'm a big fan of a bunch of other systems that essentially don't have character advancement, or where it's a very minor thing, but I've never understood the whole concept where if you can't gain a level anymore, the character is useless to you.
Mythic is not Epic by far, and some people at Paizo have mentioned that Mythic doesn't exclude then of making Epic at some point in the future, something I would be glad to see, perhaps for 2016+You mean the section that notes that the described guidelines aren't enough to go beyond 22nd or so and that Paizo may eventually publish actual rules to take the game into the epic realms, which we now know is Mythic? *insert tongue-sticking-out-emoticon here*By the time you're at 20th level, there's not much else to do besides go Mythic if the players/GM want to keep on advancing.Or you just advance to 21st level, as described in the Core Rulebook.
Given that they have stats for Demigods putting them in the 26-30 CR range, and have expressed disinterest in statting up the more powerful gods, it seems unlikely they will in the future expand epic rules.
If they did add Epic....it would probably only expand up to level 26 or 27. Much higher and you basically break the current CR power range of the mythic level monsters.
Yeah I'm hoping for something more like Immortals Handbook. I know this is a long shot but I see it more like it than Pathfinder 2.0, like I said perhaps for 2016. Also demigods are not the upper beings out there.
Also demigods are not the upper beings out there.
It's well documented that Paizo do not want stats for gods.
Maybe it's because I'm a big fan of a bunch of other systems that essentially don't have character advancement, or where it's a very minor thing, but I've never understood the whole concept where if you can't gain a level anymore, the character is useless to you.
For me, I like to mirror character growth in personality and story with mechanical improvements that reflect that. If my character is topped out, and storywise she learns a new skill, it would makes sense for that skill to show up on the character sheet.
But then I play characters long term - I have a Champions character I started in 1987 and still play occasionally. My characters tend to get played more in years (or decades) than months.
By the time you're at 20th level, there's not much else to do besides go Mythic if the players/GM want to keep on advancing.Or you just advance to 21st level, as described in the Core Rulebook.
The latter would actually work far better. A player in my group offered Mythic Adventures as a solution for post 20th level advancement -- I then perused the book and concluded that 20th level is actually too late to start advancing in mythic tiers, especially if you got little or no advance notice that the DM intended to have the game proceed that way. The rules in Mythic Adventures seem to make a strong assumption that a mythic character is gaining levels as well as tiers as he adventures.
Actually there are rules and suggestions in the CRB for playing beyond 20th level (experince points, scaling powers, spells, multiclassing).
Because of: "(..) before long, the difference between good saving throws and poor saving throws becomes awkwardly large—the further you get from 20th level, the more noticeable this difference grows (...)" you could introduce a universal save progression (or something along the lines of +1 to any one save per level)
Or: You simply do not allow players to progress their PCs in a class further than level 20 - they have to multi-(prestige)class.