Please help me brainstorm a Dwarven Illusionist concept.


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My friends want to play a Dwarf-centric game. I want to play a Sorcerer "Illusionist" with the Dreamspun bloodline. I cannot come up with a character concept that would make such a character work if the character is a Dwarf. Dwarves are dour. Illusionists are artsy-fartsy.

Please brainstorm for me a bit and toss out ideas for a Dwarven Sorcerer "Illusionist" with the Dreamspun bloodline.


The Empyreal bloodline is what you are looking for.

I'm sorry I can think of no way to make a dwarf fit a Dreamspun sorcerer build.

You either need to change the bloodline or play a wizard.


Marthkus, I'm okay with changing the bloodline, but I want to play a Sorcerer "Illusionist". I see nothing in the Empyreal bloodline which promotes that concept.

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Make a cross-blooded Empyreal/Dreamspun and choose all the Dreamspun abilities. Or you could build an Illusionist wizard if you prefer.


Justin Rocket wrote:
Marthkus, I'm okay with changing the bloodline, but I want to play a Sorcerer "Illusionist". I see nothing in the Empyreal bloodline which promotes that concept.

It doesn't directly promote the Illusionist side of your concept, but it does play favorably to the Dwarven side. By switching your base casting stat from Charisma to Wisdom, you reverse the normal deficiency that dwarves have with sorcery, making your illusions harder to disbelieve.


I find it disappointing when I ask for a character concept and am replied to with suggestions only on how I might min-max.


Justin Rocket wrote:
Dwarves are dour. Illusionists are artsy-fartsy.

Isnt THIS your concept? If youre talking olde school stereotypes the fact that you've got a dwarven arcane caster is already "anti-dwarf".

So he's an artsy-fartsy dwarf who acts nothing like a dwarf at all. His family has always been outsiders, Im thinking the Lovegood family from Harry Potter. Hell, make him a clean-shaven guy who loves the open sky and hates getting dirty....spend a skill point on a musical instrument and drive the rest of the all-dwarf party nuts!


Justin Rocket wrote:
I find it disappointing when I ask for a character concept and am replied to with suggestions only on how I might min-max.

We assume you can role play. If by making it work, you meant thematically.

Well that's easy.

"I'm a free spirit dwarf that likes illusions! Why yes my parents aren't very proud of me. How did you know?"

Then proceed to mess with the party with illusionary beer mugs.


Deylinarr wrote:
Justin Rocket wrote:
Dwarves are dour. Illusionists are artsy-fartsy.

Isnt THIS your concept? If youre talking olde school stereotypes the fact that you've got a dwarven arcane caster is already "anti-dwarf".

So he's an artsy-fartsy dwarf who acts nothing like a dwarf at all. His family has always been outsiders, Im thinking the Lovegood family from Harry Potter. Hell, make him a clean-shaven guy who loves the open sky and hates getting dirty....spend a skill point on a musical instrument and drive the rest of the all-dwarf party nuts!

I can see that :-) But I think one of the other players is creating a bard. So, I'm not sure about the music instrument.


Marthkus wrote:


"I'm a free spirit dwarf that likes illusions! Why yes my parents aren't very proud of me. How did you know?"

That seems very shallow.


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Justin Rocket wrote:
Marthkus wrote:


"I'm a free spirit dwarf that likes illusions! Why yes my parents aren't very proud of me. How did you know?"
That seems very shallow.

It is until you learned that his sister died of depression and he blames himself for being too somber around her as a child. This lead to him overcompensating and inverting his personality. His family already disgraced by one child couldn't afford another embarrassment so they gave him incentive to go off adventuring so one of his younger brothers could take over the family business.


Marthkus wrote:
Justin Rocket wrote:
Marthkus wrote:


"I'm a free spirit dwarf that likes illusions! Why yes my parents aren't very proud of me. How did you know?"
That seems very shallow.
It is until you learned that his sister died of depression and he blames himself for being too somber around her as a child. This lead to him overcompensating and inverting his personality. His family already disgraced by one child couldn't afford another embarrassment so they gave him incentive to go off adventuring so one of his younger brothers could take over the family business.

That's a neat idea. Maybe they (he and his sister) are/were both sorcerers with a penchant for non-Dour magic. They were both pressured by their clan to repress this magic. Repressing it killed his sister. His family stood with him against his clan.

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You don't have to be a whimsical prankster to be an illusionist, if you want to be serious and authoritarian.

You've read books about all sorts of things, you merely present them to other people. You're an educator, but they have to figure out the lesson themselves. And you love giving pop quizzes.

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Justin Rocket wrote:

My friends want to play a Dwarf-centric game. I want to play a Sorcerer "Illusionist" with the Dreamspun bloodline. I cannot come up with a character concept that would make such a character work if the character is a Dwarf. Dwarves are dour. Illusionists are artsy-fartsy.

Please brainstorm for me a bit and toss out ideas for a Dwarven Sorcerer "Illusionist" with the Dreamspun bloodline.

Dwarves are artisans of the highest order. An illusionist obsessed with mastering the craft of image creation is 100% dwarf tastiness.


DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
Justin Rocket wrote:

My friends want to play a Dwarf-centric game. I want to play a Sorcerer "Illusionist" with the Dreamspun bloodline. I cannot come up with a character concept that would make such a character work if the character is a Dwarf. Dwarves are dour. Illusionists are artsy-fartsy.

Please brainstorm for me a bit and toss out ideas for a Dwarven Sorcerer "Illusionist" with the Dreamspun bloodline.

Dwarves are artisans of the highest order. An illusionist obsessed with mastering the craft of image creation is 100% dwarf tastiness.

I could see an obsession with detail as part of the character concept.

Maybe as part of the dead sister idea thrown around, said sister's illusions weren't perfect, causing a orc to see through them and cut her down.


* Dwarven strategist who uses illusions as visual aids to explain advanced maneuvers.
* Dwarves too have a demand to hide treasures and rooms so a dwarf with a background in construction or architecture could make a nice profit with a mixture of clever construction and illusions. If you don't want to go for the disable device aspect of it have the character as a part of a former team up with someone who handled that part

For a bit more Dreamspun oriented I would think something like those visited in their dreams by Cthulu in the Call of Cthulhu. Only rather than driving them to make horrific art it makes the dwarf see himself as their herald and prophet.
Lullaby to help them get closer to the dream world of the things beyond
Dreamshaper to speed them along with "helpful" images of the things to come
Finally at 20 Solipsism takes you one step closer to them.

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