Battle Cattle?

[BigNorseWolf]

nosig wrote:

Jared Thaler wrote:

Wow... Not only is this necro, but the rules have seriously changed since it went up.

Characters can only purchase animals if their CR is less than the PC, or if their CR is 1, or if the purchased animal is a horse.

ACs can never have more HD than the PC's character level +1.

So, yes, all 1st level PCs can be mounted. They just can no longer be mounted on full grown tigers.

How about riding dogs?

I think so, because riding dogs have 2hd so they're good with first level pcs

[UnArcaneElection]

Problem with riding dogs is . . . It just isn't the same.

With battle cows, you can bring udder chaos.

[nosig]

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Serum wrote:

The exclusive trick seems to hint that an animal needs to be friendly/helpful towards the Handle Animal user before it follows direction, as posted above.

2 carrots would handle that.

The raw checks would be

1) the bison is combat trained. Note that combat trained only includes 1 attack trick, not two. The thing will only attack humanoids, monstrous humanoids, giants, or other animals. If you tell it to attack undead oozes or outsiders you need to push it, and i don't think "screw you i'm out of here" is an inappropriate response to the poor thing being told to step on an ooze for you. It may in fact decide to trample in the other direction (just ask hanibal)

2) you are not getting that thing into the dungeon.

Wow, I just thought of something...is it a push to get an attack animal to attack an Aasimar/Tiefling PC?

[Luke_Parry]

Technically, yes - unless they have the attack trick twice...

[The Masked Ferret]

The Dragon Warrior wrote:

Since they made the CR = character HD rule this is longer OP. A Society member cannot buy a combat trained bison until 4th lvl anyway, where 2d6+12 isn't that bad.

Where is this ruling from? Can I get a link?

[Tamec]

The Masked Ferret wrote:

The Dragon Warrior wrote:

Since they made the CR = character HD rule this is longer OP. A Society member cannot buy a combat trained bison until 4th lvl anyway, where 2d6+12 isn't that bad.

Where is this ruling from? Can I get a link?

Additional Resources wrote:

Pathfinder Player Companion: Animal Archive

*Note: The Animal Magic Item Slots table found on the inside front cover of the book is not legal except under the following conditions. First, an animal companion, familiar, or bonded mount, may choose one slot listed under its body type when taking the Extra Item Slot feat (this feat may be taken multiple times, each time selecting a different available magic item slot based on the creature's anatomy). Second, access to specific magic item slots may be granted at a later date by another legal source.

Archetypes: all archetypes on pages 6-7 and 20-21 are legal. The Huntmaster may only have one animal companion in his hunting pack; Animals: all animal companions on pages 28-29 are legal. Animals on pages 14-15 are legal for purchase except dinosaurs and megafauna (unless already allowed in this document in Bestiary 1, Bestiary 2, Bestiary 3, or Ultimate Equipment) and dire animals. Additionally, only creatures of the animal type of size Large and smaller may be purchased. Goblin dog is restricted for purchase and only available to goblin PCs. Finally, a PC can only purchase an animal, mount, or similar creature if its Challenge Rating is lower than that character's level; creatures with a Challenge Rating of 1 or lower are exempt from this restriction, as are horses.; Equipment: all equipment on pages 12-13 are legal except barding stitches, fury drops, and poison caps; Familiars: all familiars on pages 10-11 and 30-31 are legal. Approximating familiars is not legal for PFS play; Feats: all feats on pages 18-19 are legal except Familiar Spell; Magic items: all magic items on pages 26-27 are legal except circlet of speaking and familiar metamagic rod; Spells: all spells on pages 24-25 are legal; Tricks: All tricks on pages 8-9 are legal.

It's in the additional resources. Bolded it so it would stand out.

[The Masked Ferret]

Tamec wrote:

The Masked Ferret wrote:

The Dragon Warrior wrote:

Since they made the CR = character HD rule this is longer OP. A Society member cannot buy a combat trained bison until 4th lvl anyway, where 2d6+12 isn't that bad.

Where is this ruling from? Can I get a link?

Additional Resources wrote:

Pathfinder Player Companion: Animal Archive

Finally, a PC can only purchase an animal, mount, or similar creature if its Challenge Rating is lower than that character's level; creatures with a Challenge Rating of 1 or lower are exempt from this restriction, as are horses.;

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Thanks for that. And it appears under Ultimate Equipment, too. When did this update happen?

[BartonOliver]

The Masked Ferret wrote:

Tamec wrote:

The Masked Ferret wrote:

The Dragon Warrior wrote:

Since they made the CR = character HD rule this is longer OP. A Society member cannot buy a combat trained bison until 4th lvl anyway, where 2d6+12 isn't that bad.

Where is this ruling from? Can I get a link?

Additional Resources wrote:

Pathfinder Player Companion: Animal Archive

Finally, a PC can only purchase an animal, mount, or similar creature if its Challenge Rating is lower than that character's level; creatures with a Challenge Rating of 1 or lower are exempt from this restriction, as are horses.;

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Thanks for that. And it appears under Ultimate Equipment, too. When did this update happen?

IIRC, right around last GenCon.

[Azothath]

that's what happens when you buffalo tha rulez... {belated pun warning}

now if all the party is ridin bison you can stampede... Buffalo Bill and his Rough Riders...