I was looking up info about Anti-paladins, and I was hoping I could fudge it a little bit. The info says that AP's can only be Chaotic Evil. But, I'm wanting to play a Lawful Evil AP, I've wrote up my own campaign and while it would be fun to be a monk, I'm really wanting to be a AP, under the guise of a Warrior.
Is there anyway I could fudge being a LE AP?
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Thromgar of Gorum wrote: I was looking up info about Anti-paladins, and I was hoping I could fudge it a little bit. The info says that AP's can only be Chaotic Evil. But, I'm wanting to play a Lawful Evil AP, I've wrote up my own campaign and while it would be fun to be a monk, I'm really wanting to be a AP, under the guise of a Warrior.
Is there anyway I could fudge being a LE AP?
No, there isn't. There's absolutely no way that you could ever play a Lawful Evil antipaladin.
oh wait...
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By the rules? No. Can a DM just hand-waive it? Absolutely.
As written, the Antipaladin is simply a Paladin variant. There can be any number of variants, including a LE one. 3.5 D&D had LE, CE, LG, and CG Paladins.
Just ask your DM, or if you are the DM, just hand-waive what you don't like. It's one of the best parts about being DM!
Either way...just my 2 cp
I'm the DM on this one, like, I said, I wrote the campaign, and, none of the players know he's going to be a AP, So, I'm gonna try to sell'm as a Warrior, till they catch on. :) He's just in the fray for the money, and, if he can kill some folks along the way, all the merrier.
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I think the anti-paladin should have been LE in the first place, and acted as a replacement for the 3.5 Blackguard PrC. So, if it was my campaign, I would have made an LE version in a heartbeat.
The 3.5 antipaladin was the Blackguard prestige class, and it could be any evil alignment. IMO that was much better than restricting the antipal to CE only. Paizo got one thing right (making it a class variant rather than a PrC), but then fixed what wasn't broken (alignment restriction).
Anyway: mechanically, there's nothing that makes it impossible for the antipal to be LE. Thematically, it's clear that Paizo wants the antipal to be a CHAOTIC EVIL ENGINE OF DESTRUCTION, but there's nothing in the antipal build or mechanics that compels it. I have a couple of LE antipals in my Way of the Wicked campaign (one PC and one major NPC) and they're both working out just fine.
Oh, BTW: the antipal's cruelties and class powers can lead to some nice synergies with other PCs. Like, his fear aura is a no-save -4 debuff against fear, so a wizard or cleric with fear spells will enjoy hanging around with the antipal. His touch cruelties stack with other things, so if some effect has already made the target fatigued, shaken or sickened, the paladin can make it exhausted, frightened or nauseated with a touch. And so forth.
Doug M.
In my game I made an archtype called Tyrant Knight. It's a LE version which attacks chaos instead of good. It's working out just fine.
Shane LeRose wrote: In my game I made an archtype called Tyrant Knight. It's a LE version which attacks chaos instead of good. It's working out just fine. So, a hell knight base class?
In the homebrew campaign I'm running the antagonist is a Samurai/Anti pal that has an LE alignment. Both classes call for a bit of a 'code' or ideal, and personally I find the hedonist antagonist a bit... dull.
Not that one HAS to be Lawful, to be a good villain, just look at The Joker.
In mine, he has a very real goal and set of ideals that he honestly believes is right. He would end all suffering and pain in the world... by having the PC's retrieve an artifact that just happens to be the radioactive core to a nuclear bomb. That already happened by the way.
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