The cat should get a save since it has something to hold onto (assuming the glabrezu can and will support the cat's weight). However, it wouldn't auto-succeed at the save - even if it had the glabrezu pinned the shock of gravity changing might dislodge it (realistically, pinning involves resting your weight on an opponent strategically in addition to actual holding).
Well I get that and I didn't mean auto save but an attempt would have been nice
I don't "argue" with my GM over this kinda stuff but I felt in this situation he should have gotten a save...or the glabrezu should not have gotten one
Anyways thanks...was looking for something rules concrete but the GM has to say what is or isn't able to be grabbed...and we beat the encounter anyways
I'm interested to know, did the glabrezu manage to make its concentration check to get that off? A 13th level big cat AC should have a grapple CMB of at least 20, so that's a minimum DC37 concentration check as I figure it. The glabrezu would have to roll 18 or better to make it.
Not impossible, certainly, but I get the impression that it was never actually rolled.
The greatest part of the battle was when the witch casts phantasmal killer and I just HAD to open my big mouth and say that the glabrezu auto saves because of true seeing
The GM had not known this and then I found out that because of the glabrezu having telepathy he could turn it back on the witch
At this point I started apologizing to the witch because I was pretty sure he was going to die :(
However he used a hero point and made the save
I now keep my rules mind shut off when it's not my turn or the GM running an NPC
I'll have to re-word how I describe true seeing: I always assumed that illusions were 100% imperceptible to the character by virtue of the spell, whereas if the character can see a phantasmal killer enough to reverse it, he's obviously perceiving something. I guess I'll switch to "You perceive something which you instantly sense is an illusion" in my fluff description. (This also clears up some odd corner cases, such as pitting true seeing against ventriloquism or ghost sound.)
Of course, as far as I know, the Blind condition doesn't stop phantasmal killer from working either, so maybe the spell isn't principally visual at all.