Options to get Paizo PDFs without credit card?


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The Paizo store only seems to accept credit card and Paizo products are not available at RPGNow.
Credit cards aren't that common here in Europe, and I don't want to get one for a single 10€ purchase.

So is there any way to buy the pdfs without a credit card? I've got 10€ right here that I want to give away just like that, and it would be so easy if the store would accept paypal or one could buy the pdfs at another place.
But I'm not so excited to pay 30+€ for a hardcover at a store or amazon. So any option for me?

Grand Lodge

Short of Paypaling the money to someone with a credit card and having them use it on Paizo giftcards to your account, I don't think so.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

You don't have a bank debit card?

Webstore Gninja Minion

Gift debit cards will also work.

Grand Lodge

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Liz Courts wrote:
Gift debit cards will also work.

The poster stated that he doesn't want to buy those. There are fees and costs involved in having and maintaining a balance on these things.

Scarab Sages

I don't know if they're available in Europe, but you might see if you can get a "pre-paid" credit card / gift card.


I think that's the same thing as a gift debit card, in this situation.

Webstore Gninja Minion

LazarX wrote:
Liz Courts wrote:
Gift debit cards will also work.
The poster stated that he doesn't want to buy those. There are fees and costs involved in having and maintaining a balance on these things.

The OP stated they didn't want a credit card. A gift debit card is different than a credit card, and are intended as a one-time/single use means of transaction.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Liz Courts wrote:
LazarX wrote:
Liz Courts wrote:
Gift debit cards will also work.
The poster stated that he doesn't want to buy those. There are fees and costs involved in having and maintaining a balance on these things.
The OP stated they didn't want a credit card. A gift debit card is different than a credit card, and are intended as a one-time/single use means of transaction.

Or you can do what I do, I have a debit card attached to my checking account, and it works purchases here just fine.


I do have a debit card (I think, such technical terms always translate poorly), but I don't think German ones work in America.

And when I go to "Select Payment Method", credit card is the only option available.

The Exchange

Yora wrote:
I do have a debit card (I think, such technical terms always translate poorly), but I don't think German ones work in America.

Does it have a VISA or Mastercard logo in the corner? If so, it should work. You might want to check with your bank about fees for purchases in foreign currencies.

I've used a UK debit card like that without a problem.


brock, no the other one... wrote:
Yora wrote:
I do have a debit card (I think, such technical terms always translate poorly), but I don't think German ones work in America.

Does it have a VISA or Mastercard logo in the corner? If so, it should work. You might want to check with your bank about fees for purchases in foreign currencies.

I've used a UK debit card like that without a problem.

Debit Cards like these are not very widespread in Germany, unfortunately.

@Yora: If you want to buy PDFs, use DriveThruRPG.com. They accept Paypal. For print products, you can only use Amazon.de (if you're lucky and they have the product), or ask your local gaming store if they can order it. That is very expensive, though. However, shipping costs from the US can be very high, too, depending on the product you order.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Query your bank about cards that are accepted in online payments. I live in Poland and I have three cards - one debit card that doesn't work at Paizo store, one debit card that works, and one credit card that works.

Grand Lodge

Yora, you should have an email. Let Liz or Sara know if you didn't get it.


Fabius Maximus wrote:
@Yora: If you want to buy PDFs, use DriveThruRPG.com. They accept Paypal. For print products, you can only use Amazon.de (if you're lucky and they have the product), or ask your local gaming store if they can order it. That is very expensive, though. However, shipping costs from the US can be very high, too, depending on the product you order.

I know, and I use them a lot. But Paizo does not sell their pdfs there.

@TriOmega: Didn't get a mail, but your forum message. And replied.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Basically, if has a Mastercard, Visa, or Discover logo, it doesn't matter if it's a credit card, a debit card, or a gift card—our bank tells us they'll accept it.

Liberty's Edge

Yora wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
@Yora: If you want to buy PDFs, use DriveThruRPG.com. They accept Paypal. For print products, you can only use Amazon.de (if you're lucky and they have the product), or ask your local gaming store if they can order it. That is very expensive, though. However, shipping costs from the US can be very high, too, depending on the product you order.

I know, and I use them a lot. But Paizo does not sell their pdfs there.

@TriOmega: Didn't get a mail, but your forum message. And replied.

Out of curiosity, how do people in Europe mainly pay for things online without a credit card or debit bank card? Is Payapal the primary method?


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Marc Radle wrote:
Yora wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
@Yora: If you want to buy PDFs, use DriveThruRPG.com. They accept Paypal. For print products, you can only use Amazon.de (if you're lucky and they have the product), or ask your local gaming store if they can order it. That is very expensive, though. However, shipping costs from the US can be very high, too, depending on the product you order.

I know, and I use them a lot. But Paizo does not sell their pdfs there.

@TriOmega: Didn't get a mail, but your forum message. And replied.

Out of curiosity, how do people in Europe mainly pay for things online without a credit card or debit bank card? Is Payapal the primary method?

I think they put it on Germany's credit card.

Scarab Sages

Marc Radle wrote:
Yora wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
@Yora: If you want to buy PDFs, use DriveThruRPG.com. They accept Paypal. For print products, you can only use Amazon.de (if you're lucky and they have the product), or ask your local gaming store if they can order it. That is very expensive, though. However, shipping costs from the US can be very high, too, depending on the product you order.

I know, and I use them a lot. But Paizo does not sell their pdfs there.

@TriOmega: Didn't get a mail, but your forum message. And replied.

Out of curiosity, how do people in Europe mainly pay for things online without a credit card or debit bank card? Is Payapal the primary method?

Credit cards are obtainable and increasingly common in Germany, but not nearly as common as in the US, and more expensive then a debit card. Many german online shops work with money transfer or direct debit, sometimes pay-pal or paysafe cards. For those who regularly purchase from international shops a creditcard is still the best option, but if you are on a budget and don't buy more then a few pdf's a year, a credit card is an expensive choice.


feytharn wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:
Yora wrote:
Fabius Maximus wrote:
@Yora: If you want to buy PDFs, use DriveThruRPG.com. They accept Paypal. For print products, you can only use Amazon.de (if you're lucky and they have the product), or ask your local gaming store if they can order it. That is very expensive, though. However, shipping costs from the US can be very high, too, depending on the product you order.

I know, and I use them a lot. But Paizo does not sell their pdfs there.

@TriOmega: Didn't get a mail, but your forum message. And replied.

Out of curiosity, how do people in Europe mainly pay for things online without a credit card or debit bank card? Is Payapal the primary method?
Credit cards are obtainable and increasingly common in Germany, but not nearly as common as in the US, and more expensive then a debit card. Many german online shops work with money transfer or direct debit, sometimes pay-pal or paysafe cards. For those who regularly purchase from international shops a creditcard is still the best option, but if you are on a budget and don't buy more then a few pdf's a year, a credit card is an expensive choice.

30 € a year is expensive?

@Marc Radle: Yeah, it's mostly direct debit (which you can use at Amazon.de) or transferring the money from your bank account to the recipient's, which can be done via online banking (albeit only domestically).

Scarab Sages

To get it for just one pdf purchase as the OP suggested? Yes, it is. Alsonote that I wrote 'If you are on a budget[...] a credit card is an expensive choice.


A good option, if it is available in Europe, would be a Paypal debit card.


feytharn wrote:
To get it for just one pdf purchase as the OP suggested? Yes, it is. Also note that I wrote 'If you are on a budget[...] a credit card is an expensive choice.

Okay, in that case, it's a waste. But I guess that Yora would buy more than just one PDF with it.

@Shadowborn: I had a quick look. It seems it's not available in Germany.


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Marc Radle wrote:
Out of curiosity, how do people in Europe mainly pay for things online without a credit card or debit bank card? Is Payapal the primary method?

Regarding credit/debit/whatever-you-call-them-in-the-US cards, you don't want to generalize to Europe as a whole; you need to be country specific.

My bank provides me with a VISA card at no charge and I use it absolutely everywhere: online (in France or internationally) and offline (I think the only place I pay cash is at the baker's if it's less than 5 euros and the honey farmer at the local market; oh, and the barber's).


Fayries wrote:
Marc Radle wrote:
Out of curiosity, how do people in Europe mainly pay for things online without a credit card or debit bank card? Is Payapal the primary method?

Regarding credit/debit/whatever-you-call-them-in-the-US cards, you don't want to generalize to Europe as a whole; you need to be country specific.

My bank provides me with a VISA card at no charge and I use it absolutely everywhere: online (in France or internationally) and offline (I think the only place I pay cash is at the baker's if it's less than 5 euros and the honey farmer at the local market; oh, and the barber's).

True enough. I only mentioned Europe in general because I didn't know the OP's country of residence offhand and was unsure if the EU had finance regulations that applied universally.

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