Improved Counterspell & Shadow Illusions.

[Goraxes]

Can you use For axample Shadow Conjuration or Shadow Evocations to counterspell? The SCHOOL is wrong, but they emulate the spells of other schools and take on that feature... and even if they pass the willsave its still 20% real. I know how i read it, as a DM i would let it happen (Afterall, Illusion users get the bunk end of the stick as is)... but i would love another ruling from others (im thinking of trying to make an illusion caster for skull & Shackles).

Thanks

[Goraxes]

-bump-

[Tarantula]

"Shadow conjuration can mimic any sorcerer or wizard conjuration (summoning) or conjuration (creation) spell of 3rd level or lower."
"You tap energy from the Plane of Shadow to cast a quasi-real, illusory version of a sorcerer or wizard evocation spell of 4th level or lower."
"To complete the action, you must then cast an appropriate spell. As a general rule, a spell can only counter itself. If you are able to cast the same spell and you have it prepared (or have a slot of the appropriate level available), you cast it, creating a counterspell effect. If the target is within range, both spells automatically negate each other with no other results."

I think that shadow conjuration can counter 3rd level and lower conjuration (creation) spells and that shadow evocation can counter 4th or lower evocation spells.

[Tarantula]

Actually, having read the shadow spells more in depth. They are only 1/5th as strong as the actual spell. RAW I don't think you could counter, because it is not the same spell.

Houserules: I would let you reduce the duration on conjuration spells by 1/5th (counterspelling 1/5th of the effect) and the damage on evocations by 1/5th (counterspelling 1/5th of the effect).