That doesn't answer the question. That isn't even the same topic.Has Sony said that you have to install the games to the hard drive on the PS4?Yes it does.
With this one of two things happen.
1. You play the game off of the disc.
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2. You install the game, but the disc is required to play. Considering this would be a new thing for sony to do and they have stated that used games work EXACTLY like they did for the PS3 for all disc based games, you can make your own conclusion about whether or not games need to be installed.
From VG24/7:
If you play the game from the disc, it will install in the background. But it appears that installation is required (if not for all games, then most).According to Cerny, with PlayGo, PS4 owners will only have to download part of the game’s data in order to the play it. The rest of the title will continue to install on your system as PS4 copies data from the Blu-ray disc onto your hard drive. PlayGo is basically “two separate linked systems.”
“The concept is you download just a portion of the overall data and start your play session, and you continue your play session as the rest downloads in the background,” Cerny told Gamasutra.
“So, what we do as the game accesses the Blu-ray disc, is we take any data that was accessed and we put it on the hard drive. And if then if there is idle time, we go ahead and copy the remaining data to the hard drive. And what that means is after an hour or two, the game is on the hard drive, and you have access, you have dramatically quicker loading… And you have the ability to do some truly high-speed streaming.”
So I was wrong. They do both at the same time. Keeping the benefits of Disc (lending, trading) while removing the downsides(lack of memory and slower loading). THE HORROR!
Disc is probably still required to play.
So I was wrong. They do both at the same time. Keeping the benefits of Disc (lending, trading) while removing the downsides(lack of memory and slower loading). THE HORROR!
Disc is probably still required to play.
I agree that it's a good thing. And yep, disc will probably be required. Now, mind you, Sony has said that they won't prevent publishers from including their own DRM, so it's possible (likely, even) that some major game releases will require an online activation of some sort. What effect this will have on those games' ability to be lent to others remains to be seen.
I agree that it's a good thing. And yep, disc will probably be required. Now, mind you, Sony has said that they won't prevent publishers from including their own DRM, so it's possible (likely, even) that some major game releases will require an online activation of some sort. What effect this will have on those games' ability to be lent to others remains to be seen.So I was wrong. They do both at the same time. Keeping the benefits of Disc (lending, trading) while removing the downsides(lack of memory and slower loading). THE HORROR!
Disc is probably still required to play.
You mean exactly what they could have been doing for this generation of consoles?
The Xbone requires it. PS4 only has to the extent that the PS3 or 360 have it.
I agree that it's a good thing. And yep, disc will probably be required. Now, mind you, Sony has said that they won't prevent publishers from including their own DRM, so it's possible (likely, even) that some major game releases will require an online activation of some sort. What effect this will have on those games' ability to be lent to others remains to be seen.So I was wrong. They do both at the same time. Keeping the benefits of Disc (lending, trading) while removing the downsides(lack of memory and slower loading). THE HORROR!
Disc is probably still required to play.You mean exactly what they could have been doing for this generation of consoles?
The Xbone requires it. PS4 only has to the extent that the PS3 or 360 have it.
Calm down. I'm not bashing the PS4. I just wanted to make it clear that while Sony has come out and said that they will not institute their own DRM, they have also come out and said they won't prevent publishers from including their own. No one should get the mistaken impression that PS4 games will all be DRM-free.
Calm down. I'm not bashing the PS4. I just wanted to make it clear that while Sony has come out and said that they will not institute their own DRM, they have also come out and said they won't prevent publishers from including their own. No one should get the mistaken impression that PS4 games will all be DRM-free.I agree that it's a good thing. And yep, disc will probably be required. Now, mind you, Sony has said that they won't prevent publishers from including their own DRM, so it's possible (likely, even) that some major game releases will require an online activation of some sort. What effect this will have on those games' ability to be lent to others remains to be seen.So I was wrong. They do both at the same time. Keeping the benefits of Disc (lending, trading) while removing the downsides(lack of memory and slower loading). THE HORROR!
Disc is probably still required to play.You mean exactly what they could have been doing for this generation of consoles?
The Xbone requires it. PS4 only has to the extent that the PS3 or 360 have it.
True, but they won't have anymore DRM than the current generation of consoles. This standard is all that mattered to people.
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True, but they won't have anymore DRM than the current generation of consoles. This standard is all that mattered to people.Calm down. I'm not bashing the PS4. I just wanted to make it clear that while Sony has come out and said that they will not institute their own DRM, they have also come out and said they won't prevent publishers from including their own. No one should get the mistaken impression that PS4 games will all be DRM-free.I agree that it's a good thing. And yep, disc will probably be required. Now, mind you, Sony has said that they won't prevent publishers from including their own DRM, so it's possible (likely, even) that some major game releases will require an online activation of some sort. What effect this will have on those games' ability to be lent to others remains to be seen.So I was wrong. They do both at the same time. Keeping the benefits of Disc (lending, trading) while removing the downsides(lack of memory and slower loading). THE HORROR!
Disc is probably still required to play.You mean exactly what they could have been doing for this generation of consoles?
The Xbone requires it. PS4 only has to the extent that the PS3 or 360 have it.
I think you're right. At the very least, it means that Sony won't be seen as a target for the anti-DRM crowd. Instead, it'll be the publishers who include it who'll get the brunt of the outrage.
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Welcome to PC gaming where most of the publishers are money grubbing evil men who ruin good games and heavily inconvenience legitimate customers so that the pirate crowd has to wait a few days for the cracked version of that game with no DRM included.
Consoles are inching mighty close to that AFAIS.
I think you're right. At the very least, it means that Sony won't be seen as a target for the anti-DRM crowd. Instead, it'll be the publishers who include it who'll get the brunt of the outrage.True, but they won't have anymore DRM than the current generation of consoles. This standard is all that mattered to people.Calm down. I'm not bashing the PS4. I just wanted to make it clear that while Sony has come out and said that they will not institute their own DRM, they have also come out and said they won't prevent publishers from including their own. No one should get the mistaken impression that PS4 games will all be DRM-free.I agree that it's a good thing. And yep, disc will probably be required. Now, mind you, Sony has said that they won't prevent publishers from including their own DRM, so it's possible (likely, even) that some major game releases will require an online activation of some sort. What effect this will have on those games' ability to be lent to others remains to be seen.So I was wrong. They do both at the same time. Keeping the benefits of Disc (lending, trading) while removing the downsides(lack of memory and slower loading). THE HORROR!
Disc is probably still required to play.You mean exactly what they could have been doing for this generation of consoles?
The Xbone requires it. PS4 only has to the extent that the PS3 or 360 have it.
As God intended.
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Hmm.
Whether I care about the game being attached to something depends on whether it's attached to my account or my console. If I could eventually get a second XBox One for my bedroom while not having to pay for my own games again would be the deciding factor there.
And if there is a chance the account could be banned and I could lose access to all the games I paid for because I got bored trying to unlock characters and used cheat codes to not have to do achievements for all the characters or something (I generally don't online multiplayer - though if I did it would be for Street Fighter Alpha and Street Fighter 3 and MvC 2, Maybe Guilty Gear or Blaz Blue), then I would also be hesitant to buy it.
The idea of the Kinect constantly watching the contents of my living room when the XBOX is on creeps me out too much for me to tolerate having one in my house. I might accidentally walk through the living room while it's on and sending pictures of my living room to microsoft. While they PROBABLY won't do much underhanded with it, it makes me quite uncomfortable. Too r#pey for me.
And it would cost me $70 per month to watch Netflix before my internet provider fees - which is absolutely outrageous and unacceptable to me.
I will either PS4 or I will skip this gen of consoles.
Whether I care about the game being attached to something depends on whether it's attached to my account or my console. If I could eventually get a second XBox One for my bedroom while not having to pay for my own games again would be the deciding factor there.
Speaking as someone who has gone through multiple consoles, this is the way it already works (even with the 360, there is a straightforward way to handle a rights transfer to a new machine). You can expect that it will continue to work this way with new consoles, and that signing into your account will give you access to your content no matter where you are.
And if there is a chance the account could be banned and I could lose access to all the games I paid for because I got bored trying to unlock characters and used cheat codes to not have to do achievements for all the characters or something (I generally don't online multiplayer - though if I did it would be for Street Fighter Alpha and Street Fighter 3 and MvC 2, Maybe Guilty Gear or Blaz Blue), then I would also be hesitant to buy it.
Individuals are rarely banned on a permanent basis, and certainly not for using in-game cheat codes. Now, if you alter your game with external hacks, you may very well be banned/suspended - especially if you screw around with the multiplayer. That's a good thing. No one likes cheaters ruining their multiplayer experience.
The idea of the Kinect constantly watching the contents of my living room when the XBOX is on creeps me out too much for me to tolerate having one in my house.
Luckily, the Kinect does not constantly watch you.
I might accidentally walk through the living room while it's on and sending pictures of my living room to microsoft.
It doesn't send pictures, video, or sound to Microsoft. The only way that would even be close to happening is if you were playing a game or using an app that Microsoft created.
While they PROBABLY won't do much underhanded with it, it makes me quite uncomfortable. Too r#pey for me.
They won't do anything with it, because they won't have it to begin with. Your Kinect will not be sending video or audio to Microsoft unless you explicitly allow it to do so.
And it would cost me $70 per month to watch Netflix before my internet provider fees - which is absolutely outrageous and unacceptable to me.
It was revealed yesterday that both the Xbox One and PS4 will require a paid subscription to their online service in order to play multiplayer games, so it's likely that you'd have a subscription anyway. If you never play multiplayer games, then yes, you'd end up paying a fee to use Netflix. But if you do play multiplayer games, you'll already have a subscription; using the Netflix app will be part of that.
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MS is required by law to hand over all data to the U.S. government.
Unless current laws change the Kinect WILL be watching and sending data to the government. MS can avoid liability by sending it directly to them. MS won't have your data Uncle Sam will.
This includes European Xbones. Current U.S. law makes no distinction to the location of the spying.
MS cannot in anyway prevent this from happening.
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That makes sense as 4k TVs are out of most peoples price range right now. Give it a few years when the 4k TV price drops.
Meh, I don't see 4K TVs taking off anytime soon, if ever. To actually get any visible benefit, you'd need a f!~*ing colossal TV. I wish developers would put half as much work into making games actually fun and interesting as they do trying to make them as cutting-edge as possible.
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That makes sense as 4k TVs are out of most peoples price range right now. Give it a few years when the 4k TV price drops.Meh, I don't see 4K TVs taking off anytime soon, if ever. To actually get any visible benefit, you'd need a f%!%ing colossal TV. I wish developers would put half as much work into making games actually fun and interesting as they do trying to make them as cutting-edge as possible.
I do agree with you on the 4k TVs. I just do not see the increase in picture quality being worth the amount of effort and cost required such as increased bandwidth, processing power required, new filming equipment, etc.
In regard to games thou, graphics are very important for a large number of people. Bringing down the skyscraper in the Battlefield gameplay session was awesome. I am a huge fan of heavy narrative games (ala Mass Effect, Tomb Raider 2013, Dragon Age, etc) but graphics are still important to me as well.
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Speaking as someone who has gone through multiple consoles, this is the way it already works (even with the 360, there is a straightforward way to handle a rights transfer to a new machine). You can expect that it will continue to work this way with new consoles, and that signing into your account will give you access to your content no matter where you are.
You misunderstand me.
I have a 360. My Roommates have a 360 in the living room for the household.
Games on Disc I can play on both machines, without needing to transfer licenses back and forth several times.
XBLA games I have to take my 360 and hook it up in another room to play it, or have to wait periods of time (as in I can't just play it in the living room, and then 2h later play it in my bedroom).
It's one of the more annoying parts of XBLA.
It was revealed yesterday that both the Xbox One and PS4 will require a paid subscription to their online service in order to play multiplayer games, so it's likely that you'd have a subscription anyway. If you never play multiplayer games, then yes, you'd end up paying a fee to use Netflix. But if you do play multiplayer games, you'll already have a subscription; using the Netflix app will be part of that.
The odds I would play online multiplayer games on a console (instead of just local multiplayer games with whomever is in my living room) is very low. The odds of me paying more than $5 a month to do so, given how often it would come up? even lower.
Everything I heard said the PS4 wouldn't be charging for online multiplayer. If it also charges for online multiplayer, then I will consider netflix to be a service I can't do with it, which will factor into my decision making process, but not remove it as an option.
I read that the Kinect is always on, "for purposes of seeing if you're watching the ads". I'm just not okay with that.
As for 4k TVs, I want one. More Specifically, I want a 4K Monitor. I can't see a reason I would ever buy a TV again. However, for it to be worthwhile, it needs to be either really close to your face, or really big. And I would want it for one of those two purposes.
If you have a 4k 24 inch screen, that's 6 feet away, it's serving absolutely no purpose.
MS is required by law to hand over all data to the U.S. government.
No, it isn't. This is incorrect on like eight different levels.
Stop fear-mongering. Your wild paranoia makes it much more difficult for legitimate privacy complaints to be heard.
I read that the Kinect is always on, "for purposes of seeing if you're watching the ads". I'm just not okay with that.
Source? From what I understand, this is utterly false.
MS is required by law to hand over all data to the U.S. government.No, it isn't. This is incorrect on like eight different levels.
Stop fear-mongering. Your wild paranoia makes it much more difficult for legitimate privacy complaints to be heard.
It is correct. Just because it's unconstitutional does not mean it is against the law. MS has already agreed to be fully compliant.
Until the Supreme court or congress says otherwise, this is what will happen.
That includes Xbones outside the U.S. too.
I read that the Kinect is always on, "for purposes of seeing if you're watching the ads". I'm just not okay with that.Source? From what I understand, this is utterly false.
It's a patent they filed for. Now reading too much into the patents MS has IS fear-mongering. Under Current patent law, it benefits MS to file for a patent for any idea they have. They don't even need to be considering to use said idea to benefit from filing for the patent.
It is correct.
No, it's not.
Just because it's unconstitutional does not mean it is against the law. MS has already agreed to be fully compliant.
Microsoft generally complies with government requests for information. These requests are specific, not general. They deliver certain information on individuals, not entire spheres of data on the entire country.
In fact, Microsoft, along with Google and Facebook, are actively seeking permission from the U.S. government to make public the body of requests for information they have received, so that they can demonstrate exactly how much of the information they collect is shared with the federal government.
And beyond all that, the Kinect/Xbox One does not actively store or transmit audio or video data to Microsoft of any kind (a bit of thought on upstream bandwidth constraints will tell you why), much less from the Kinect (which is not always watching, and is not constantly recording).
Stop. Fear. Mongering.
It is correct.No, it's not.
Just because it's unconstitutional does not mean it is against the law. MS has already agreed to be fully compliant.Microsoft generally complies with government requests for information. These requests are specific, not general. They deliver certain information on individuals, not entire spheres of data on the entire country.
In fact, Microsoft, along with Google and Facebook, are actively seeking permission from the U.S. government to make public the body of requests for information they have received, so that they can demonstrate exactly how much of the information they collect is shared with the federal government.
And beyond all that, the Kinect/Xbox One does not actively store or transmit audio or video data to Microsoft of any kind (a bit of thought on upstream bandwidth constraints will tell you why), much less from the Kinect (which is not always watching, and is not constantly recording).
Stop. Fear. Mongering.
You are wrong.
Stop being a sheeple.
You are wrong.
Stop being a sheeple.
Oooh, he said "sheeple"! That's another Bingo square down!
I think Scott is spying on us for the NSA.
The Xbone was suppose to be a huge boon for them, but then the Japanese messed up that plan with the PS4. Which is only cheaper because it's secretly funded by the people who secretly fund AL-Qaeda. China, who is currently sheltering their agent Edward.
It is correct.No, it's not.
Just because it's unconstitutional does not mean it is against the law. MS has already agreed to be fully compliant.Microsoft generally complies with government requests for information. These requests are specific, not general. They deliver certain information on individuals, not entire spheres of data on the entire country.
In fact, Microsoft, along with Google and Facebook, are actively seeking permission from the U.S. government to make public the body of requests for information they have received, so that they can demonstrate exactly how much of the information they collect is shared with the federal government.
And beyond all that, the Kinect/Xbox One does not actively store or transmit audio or video data to Microsoft of any kind (a bit of thought on upstream bandwidth constraints will tell you why), much less from the Kinect (which is not always watching, and is not constantly recording).
Stop. Fear. Mongering.
I agree with you, the intent of the Kinect is not to spy on people.
Would you agree that it's possible to use it to do so, though?
I agree with you, the intent of the Kinect is not to spy on people.
Would you agree that it's possible to use it to do so, though?
To no greater an extent (and to much less an extent, in many ways) than your smartphone, laptop, or tablet.
Yes, it's a camera and a mic, and yes, it is connected to a device that has internet access. You could pretend that this was a big deal in 2004. This is 2013. We're about six months away from my toaster oven having those capabilities.
Just wanted to add that I have a few family members in the military that will not be getting the XB1 because of the location of their deployment. Which is unfortunate, because they're all XBox fans.
Many military members are deployed in regions that just don't have internet access.
Microsoft has already confirmed that they are working on a system for providing members of the military with codes that will allow them to use their Xbox One indefinitely without requiring internet access.
I agree with you, the intent of the Kinect is not to spy on people.
Would you agree that it's possible to use it to do so, though?
To no greater an extent (and to much less an extent, in many ways) than your smartphone, laptop, or tablet.
Yes, it's a camera and a mic, and yes, it is connected to a device that has internet access. You could pretend that this was a big deal in 2004. This is 2013. We're about six months away from my toaster oven having those capabilities.
Not sure why you needed to include the sarcasm and derision in your response.
I'm not sure it was.
A "smart toaster" is no sillier than any other smart "Insert Appliance Here".
Silly Scott, living in the US yet vehemently denying the possibility of being spied on by multiple sources. After seeing enough many people like Snowden and others who've informed of US citizens being spied on (or even worse things like unwarranted arrests and false accusations of terrorism), I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft was doing the same thing via the Kinect on the Xbone as Marthkus claims. As for the PS4 (which looks promising so far), I'd rather wait some time before giving any real say on it.
Not sure why you needed to include the sarcasm and derision in your response.I agree with you, the intent of the Kinect is not to spy on people.
Would you agree that it's possible to use it to do so, though?
To no greater an extent (and to much less an extent, in many ways) than your smartphone, laptop, or tablet.
Yes, it's a camera and a mic, and yes, it is connected to a device that has internet access. You could pretend that this was a big deal in 2004. This is 2013. We're about six months away from my toaster oven having those capabilities.
My point was that the mere possibility of the Kinect being used for surveillance is trivial given that we're literally surrounded by devices that have the exact same possibility - many of them close at hand for the nearly the entire day.
Accordingly, it's inane to keep harping on the possibility of the Kinect being used as a surveillance device as though that's somehow important. It's not. What's important is how likely it is that it will be used for surveillance of any kind. And the likelihood of that is essentially nil.
Silly Scott, living in the US yet vehemently denying the possibility of being spied on by multiple sources. After seeing enough many people like Snowden and others who've informed of US citizens being spied on (or even worse things like unwarranted arrests and false accusations of terrorism), I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft was doing the same thing via the Kinect on the Xbone as Marthkus claims.
I would, since Microsoft (as well as a number of other corporations) have come out in favor of making public the requests for information that they receive. They also have a history of fighting such requests for information when the company feels they are unwarranted or overly broad.
Again, the fear-mongering is getting out of control. There are legitimate privacy concerns that we are facing as a country right now, but when people like Icyshadow and Marthkus start going crazy passing off wild speculation as though it were fact, we lose sight of those legitimate concerns while, at the same time, the legitimacy of the movement to oppose such invasions of privacy is jeopardized by its association with crackpots and conspiracy theorists.
Rein it in.
Microsoft generally complies with government requests for information. These requests are specific, not general. They deliver certain information on individuals, not entire spheres of data on the entire country.
I hate to jump into a thread about video games I know nothing about, but:
Dear Citizen Betts,
Microsoft isssued a statment reading: "Permitting greater transparency on the aggregate volume and scope of national security requests, including FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) orders, would help the community understand and debate these important issues."
The Next Web went on to comment "Both Microsoft and Google have taken public flack for participating in a program known as PRISM. The exact extent of the program, its tenets, and other details remain vague. However, as both Google and Microsoft are being dinged for what is in all likelihood a program that they have no choice in, increased information can only help them."
Seeing as Microsoft isn't allowed to talk about it, how do you know whether the gov't requests are general or specific or whether MS delivers information on certain individuals or entire spheres of data?
Genuinely curious,
Comrade Anklebiter
They (whoever they are) are going to accuse everyone of being crackpots and conspiracy theorists anyway. People still think Occupy Wallstreet is a movement full of morons, when they have legitimate concerns. You just came off as someone who'd deny every last accusation the offenders have on their shoulders just because. Granted you just said that there ARE legitimate privacy concerns (and that the Kinect has that possibility despite the likelihood of it not meanining anything in your opinion), I'm less inclined than others to dismiss you off-hand.
However, I'm always ready to fear the worst since Murphy's Law exists for a reason.
Edit: Oh, thanks to the Anklebiter, I can resume dismissing you once more. See, this is why I always expect the worst to happen.
Seeing as Microsoft isn't allowed to talk about it, how do you know whether the gov't requests are general or specific or whether MS delivers information on certain individuals or entire spheres of data?
Because the leaked PRISM documents outline the sort of information that can be requested, and the requirements for requesting it.
They (whoever they are) are going to accuse everyone of being crackpots and conspiracy theorists anyway. People still think Occupy Wallstreet is a movement full of morons, when they have legitimate concerns.
Occupy Wall Street did have legitimate concerns, but unfortunately it attracted a massive blubbering crowd of morons that ended up thoroughly delegitimizing the movement. Which is exactly what's happening here.
Focusing on legitimate concerns is great.
Allowing your movement to be hijacked by the paranoid and incoherent is a death knell.
Seeing as Microsoft isn't allowed to talk about it, how do you know whether the gov't requests are general or specific or whether MS delivers information on certain individuals or entire spheres of data?Because the leaked PRISM documents outline the sort of information that can be requested, and the requirements for requesting it.
If this is true, why did Snowden have to run off? Something that harmless does not make someone a wanted man.
Also, how do you know what you say is true? Do you just blindly believe it because some Microsoft employee told you that's the fact?
Seeing as Microsoft isn't allowed to talk about it, how do you know whether the gov't requests are general or specific or whether MS delivers information on certain individuals or entire spheres of data?Because the leaked PRISM documents outline the sort of information that can be requested, and the requirements for requesting it.
And if they received one of the same orders that Verizon did?
If this is true, why did Snowden have to run off? Something that harmless does not make someone a wanted man.
"Harmless"? We're talking about a clandestine government surveillance program. And he leaked information on it to the public. That's a really, really serious matter. Of course it makes him a wanted man.
I am kind of confounded by some of the things you're saying here.
Also, how do you know what you say is true? Do you just blindly believe it because some Microsoft employee told you that's the fact?
My information is coming from the leaked PRISM documentation, and from respected news outlets' analysis of that documentation. Where are you getting yours?
It's as likely that anyone with a smartphone is going to get spied on as it is with a Kinnect Sensor. And no, I don't have a smartphone. They're too smart for me. I want something to ring people. But a smartphone has a mic, a phone and is connected to your interwebs quite often. And you can track them! Difference is it's easier to turn it off, I guess?
Honestly, only people already being investigated by the US need fear the Kinnect. Given recent history I'm sure they'd use the thing to spy on terrorists. Or if it's in Pakistan, see if anyone's home before drone bombing the place (and heading back for the all important double tap shot - those ambulance workers might be terrorists too). But unless we're playing Enemy of the State: the LARP I don't think most people should fear the One for the Kinnect.
The high pricing, lower quality hardware, heavy DRM and rabid Halo players screaming, 'Mom banging N00b bot!' are quite terrifying enough.
A news source on PRISM Presentation - it is interesting...
Edit: My biggest complaint is the formatting on those powerpoints... hideous.
And if they received one of the same orders that Verizon did?Seeing as Microsoft isn't allowed to talk about it, how do you know whether the gov't requests are general or specific or whether MS delivers information on certain individuals or entire spheres of data?Because the leaked PRISM documents outline the sort of information that can be requested, and the requirements for requesting it.
I'm assuming you're speaking of the FISA order, which is concerning. It's unclear how that would apply if translated to Microsoft, since Verizon's order was limited to call metadata (the actual contents of the phone calls were not covered). Email metadata, perhaps? Either way, it's certainly not the sort of thing that would give them access to everything your Kinect has ever seen.
Honestly, only people already being investigated by the US need fear the Kinnect.
While that would, frankly, be a really awesome way to actively collect intelligence (and would be perfectly legal and, I'd argue, acceptable if a warrant for that recovery were issued), I'd be kind of astonished if it ever happens.
I'm assuming you're speaking of the FISA order, which is concerning. It's unclear how that would apply if translated to Microsoft, since Verizon's order was limited to call metadata (the actual contents of the phone calls were not covered). Email metadata, perhaps? Either way, it's certainly not the sort of thing that would give them access to everything your Kinect has ever seen.
Oh, I agree, the Kinect thing seems kind of silly. It was your claims about Microsoft in general that I was interested in.
To be honest, I'm not even sure what a Kinect is. I still play a PS2 and upgrading my video game system is pretty low on my list of priorities.
A news source on PRISM Presentation - it is interesting...
Edit: My biggest complaint is the formatting on those powerpoints... hideous.
There is some talk that the author of the presentations may have been imprecise in the wording of the discussion surrounding participating companies, and that may be leading to the confusion between what spokespersons are saying and what the presentation appears to say.
I'm assuming you're speaking of the FISA order, which is concerning. It's unclear how that would apply if translated to Microsoft, since Verizon's order was limited to call metadata (the actual contents of the phone calls were not covered). Email metadata, perhaps? Either way, it's certainly not the sort of thing that would give them access to everything your Kinect has ever seen.Oh, I agree, the Kinect thing seems kind of silly. It was your claims about Microsoft in general that I was interested in.
To be honest, I'm not even sure what a Kinect is. I still play a PS2 and upgrading my video game system is pretty low on my list of priorities.
It's essentially a video camera with some interactive capabilities (an IR camera for tracking movement commands when you have light levels turned down to watch a movie, for instance; speech recognition so that you can control your console verbally; motion tracking and 3d virtualization software for games based on physical movement; that sort of stuff). A lot of people seem to be concerned that owning a Kinect will mean that someone could be watching everything they do in front of their TV, despite the fact that the Kinect can be disabled, it doesn't constantly stream what it sees to Microsoft, and that it's certainly not any more of a privacy concern than your laptop.
That makes sense as 4k TVs are out of most peoples price range right now. Give it a few years when the 4k TV price drops.Meh, I don't see 4K TVs taking off anytime soon, if ever. To actually get any visible benefit, you'd need a f*~#ing colossal TV. I wish developers would put half as much work into making games actually fun and interesting as they do trying to make them as cutting-edge as possible.
In this Sony is being very smart and offering content along with their TVs. Why worry about the whole chicken and egg argument about TV or content first when they can give you both at the same time. I am not sure how much Sony's 4k movie/TV subscription will be but 4k TVs are already almost down to the price of ordinary high end HDTVs.
Since I will want one, why not look for a console that will support the TV I want?
Thankfully I don't have to worry about any of those things for now.
1. I don't live in the US, and probably never will.
2. I never planned on buying an Xbone in the first place.
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Microsoft has already confirmed that they are working on a system for providing members of the military with codes that will allow them to use their Xbox One indefinitely without requiring internet access.Just wanted to add that I have a few family members in the military that will not be getting the XB1 because of the location of their deployment. Which is unfortunate, because they're all XBox fans.
Many military members are deployed in regions that just don't have internet access.
I was unaware of that. According to this MS XBox Exec, that's not the case.