When I started rereading the Codex Alera series recently I realized that it is a setting that I would be interested in RPGing in but that I have never found a properly done conversion of any system. I am looking at doing one for pathfinder and am hoping to find others willing to help.
Intial thoughts are that each of the furycrafting disciplines would be its own class and that starting characters would have 1 level in a furycrafting discipline and 1 level in a standard class.
Standard pathfinder classes that I feal are appropriate for the setting are
Barbarian
Fighter
Ranger (without spells)
Rogue (no magical talents)
Cavalier
Now some people might find that a short list of classes but with 6 different caster classes that still leaves you with 11 classes and quite likely some multiclassing in many cases.
For the Marat I am thinking of using Half orc replacing orc weapon familiarity with a animal companion. Possibly linking their +2 stat to what animal they are bonded with.
Canim and Icemen will probably need to be designed from the ground up.
For those who know nothing about the series check out the wiki page
Codes Alera Wikipedia Page
Gnolls might work well for Canim. And I had considered making most of the PCs Elemental Wizards. For the Marat, I was thinking Rangers. For the Icemen, I was thinking Druids.
I wouldn't try to reinvent the wheel.
I think gestalt characters would work really well for this, especially if you came up with a Furycrafter class. Perhaps even 2 furycrafter classes, one for a broad range of furycraft, and one for a more specialized furycrafting.
Yeah, Gestalt seems like your best bet, though to really give it the same feel there'd have to be minor racial ties to certain classes.
Marat always being Barbarian, Rangers, Fighters, or Cavaliers (a mix of any two), Canim always being Fighter/Barbarian gestalts with the rare odd Fighter/Mage for the casties they've got, while the Alerans are generally going to be Rogue/Furycrafter, Fighter/Furycrafter, and the rare Ranger or Cavalier/Furycrafter.
There's not really enough known about Icemen to really tie them to standard classes. You may have to go back to the ol' "Race is a class" thing for them since they have a bunch of weird abilities.
There's not really enough known about Icemen to really tie them to standard classes. You may have to go back to the ol' "Race is a class" thing for them since they have a bunch of weird abilities.
I think that works rather well, especially in a gestalt game. You could even do the Marat the same way, having them gain certain aspects of their chala as they level up.
I can see gestalt working with some restrictions.
Gnolls as Canim may work though they would need to be large.
I am looking at making a seperate class for each type of furycrafting as the abilities of each element vary so much. I am also considering having them only go up to level 10, thus a level 20 character could have at least 60% of the max furycrafting in each discipline.
Personally I think 1 or 2 classes would do, but ymmv. I don't see why you couldn't just base the various specialized furycrafters on specialized wizards, with each type of furycrafting being its own school.
I personally see most of the Furycrafters as Oracles - the Msytery is their Fury and most of what the Fury does can be explained by spells and revelations. That's what the norm for the "standard" would be, at least. The Marat could all be druids (seeing how they come of age when first bound to an animal and such), with various archetypes representing different clans. Gnolls could make great canims, but personally I'd just try and build a new race from scratch for them.
Don't go overboard, remember, what is exceptional for normal people in a fantasy world might be just level 4 in Pathfinder.
Also, if you're going Oracle, there's really little need for multiclassing to represent most of the powers of "higher-level characters". That's what you can use the customizing aspects of feats, skills, spells, and background/fluffy descriptions for, after all.
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Don't go overboard, remember, what is exceptional for normal people in a fantasy world might be just level 4 in Pathfinder.
A dude caused an entire army to piss themselves and die through sheer force of will, and another brought down a city's walls with some bean sprouts and water/ice, among other such impressive feats from the same and other people.
Don't think you've gotta worry about that issue.
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The Spheres of Power book by drop dead studios is an alternative set of rules for making different magic systems. In chapter 7 it presents sample worlds with unique magic systems, one of these The Everforge has a magic system that to my eyes looks a whole lot like codex alera. you should check it out.
What if instead of inventing a Furycrafter class, one used a Kineticist from Occult Adventures?
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What if instead of inventing a Furycrafter class, one used a Kineticist from Occult Adventures?
That's a great Avenue of thought, Ventnor! Every time I reread that series, how to do an RPG of it becomes the Two hundred and Sixty Dollar question. Clearly though, I'm too Yellow to come up with a rule system. As for kineticist, I know that Water Works! Lets hope that you don't have a Monopoly on the good ideas though.
What if instead of inventing a Furycrafter class, one used a Kineticist from Occult Adventures?That's a great Avenue of thought, Ventnor! Every time I reread that series, how to do an RPG of it becomes the Two hundred and Sixty Dollar question. Clearly though, I'm too Yellow to come up with a rule system. As for kineticist, I know that Water Works! Lets hope that you don't have a Monopoly on the good ideas though.
Its not a monopoly if he freely shares them is it?
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Its not a monopoly if he freely shares them is it?What if instead of inventing a Furycrafter class, one used a Kineticist from Occult Adventures?That's a great Avenue of thought, Ventnor! Every time I reread that series, how to do an RPG of it becomes the Two hundred and Sixty Dollar question. Clearly though, I'm too Yellow to come up with a rule system. As for kineticist, I know that Water Works! Lets hope that you don't have a Monopoly on the good ideas though.
...I think my horrible jokes about Ventnor's name went over your head, Rogar. You may consider that a blessing, though.
ahhh. Ventor... Ventnor... avenue of thought.... SPEEEHW
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Was just discussing this with a friend.
What was suggested was gestalt, with a Spirit Summoner archetype on one side with appropriate element selected, and kineticist on the other, and additionally choosing an elemental race (sylph etc) appropriate to the type of furycraft.
Additional secondary furies paid for with feats, and their elemental properties acquired through the kineticists ability to gain further elements every few levels.