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So given from the Nightly Roundup on Equestria Daily it looks like someone actually has been working at the conversion for Ponyfinder! Huzzah!
I know that just makes everyone's day, now that we can have more equine adventures. I'm mostly just re-posting things here.
I. Race Guide
II. Cutie Marks
III. Ponyfinder Equipment
So far it doesn't look too bad. I think it could use a bit of touching up and re-balancing. Particularly I don't know why someone with a particular special talent could have a worse failure then someone with no training at all. Still a good effort!
I find Ponyfinder both vexing and delightful.
On the positive ponify... everything
On the down side many of the choices are puzzling. Like how they've forgotten natural attacks for the pony races. What the applebuck!?
(Nevermind they seem to want to try balancing against normal play, which ponies on the show are just... not. That's understandable given that quite aside from Sonic Rainbooms Dashie pulls things like kicking through multiple trees in a single kick which just doesn't model well on PF)
I am really not trying to be rude, elitist, or whatever, though I know it might seem that way, but: is this a joke, a thing for kids, or ...what?
I vaguely recall a MLP joke conversion a while back and am not sure whether this is a continuation of it (i.e. beating a dead horse - haha), which is why I ask.
Well the races seem fairly balanced at least.
I am really not trying to be rude, elitist, or whatever, though I know it might seem that way, but: is this a joke, a thing for kids, or ...what?
I vaguely recall a MLP joke conversion a while back and am not sure whether this is a continuation of it (i.e. beating a dead horse - haha), which is why I ask.
So haven't been around the net much last few years huh? ;)
To answer your question: serious. Its a Brony ... thing... to take over and convert anything we can to have its place in the Herd. That said don't take it tooo seriously
I'm acquainted with several folks that are actively playing pony RPs, btw.
So haven't been around the net much last few years huh? ;)
To answer your question: serious. Its a Brony ... thing... to take over and convert anything we can to have its place in the Herd. That said don't take it tooo seriously
I'm acquainted with several folks that are actively playing pony RPs, btw.
You might say I wear "blinders" for things outside of my field of interest.=)
I had to look up "Brony," but I think I get what you're saying. Takes all kinds. I don't judge.=)
Truth be told, when I started to question whether it was serious or not, I actually wondered if some cool dad wasn't making it for his daughter.
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Well the creation of it stems from a lot of things. A while back there were some basic pony races done up seemingly as an April Fools joke (if I remember correctly) and then it kind of snowballed from there. One of the Major fan sites, Equestria Daily posted up a compilation too. This grew from that.
It would be hard to balance the things some of the Mane 6 do in the show, but they tend towards exceptional being main characters and so forth.
Yes, natural attacks are definitely lacking it would seem. What else is missing?
@Da'ath: I actually find you needing to looking that up oddly comforting in a way. Proof the world isn't as small as I sometimes fear. If you are interested I've always found knowyourmeme's page probably the best quick overview of the phenomena.
And while I don't know it to be true I do know a Brony dad that watches the show happily with his daughter... so wouldn't put it past possiblity to happen.
@Morgen:
Well the "non-dextrous" I will just agree to disagree on despite pony hooves having potential explanations for their implausible utility. I kinda understand their point though.
I think the Cutie Mark needs a bit broader support though. Its a special talent not just a skill in a PF context. I don't feel the differences between say Twilight, Shining Armor, and Celestia are well represented by all having a +4 in Spellcraft. Rainbow Dash's +4 in Fly is better but doesn't make her faster, Rarity's Craft doesn't explain her Gem Spell. And hypothetically you just know someone will want their Fighter Pony to have a Cutie Mark of their weapon of choice.
I think the simplest solution would probably be to make the Cutie Mark a Bonus Feat. Maybe with some guidelines on what that would be.
Also they need a Weather Pony class at some point and I think Earth ponies could use something to support that whole subtle earth connection thing.
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Yeah the marshmallow hooves effect. Hmmm, a good example for this is likely to be the Doctor Whooves and the Assistant episode. Just hold it with your hoof. There does seem to be some ability to use them when convenient at least. Are you suggesting that it's too tough or not tough enough I suppose would be the real question.
Looking at the Cutie Marks more closely they do seem to be a bit underwhelming in terms of assisting you with your special talent. A game mechanic solution would make a bonus feat more useful for that but I think most folks would want some kind of justification added too it so it isn't used in unusual ways. The skill bonuses at least fit the theme of exploring a talent, but perhaps not in the hack and slash world of Pathfinder.
Prestige classes might finally have a role to play here. Pretty sure that Weather Pony isn't a per-existing base class or archetype. You probably could make it with druid, but that's not really what a weather pony would do.
Maybe it is getting a bit too spread out like that. How about a drastic reorganization into a Pony race and then having sub-races based upon the different tribes? Or is that too simplifying.
Yeah my concern with the bonus feat is loosing the special flavor of the cutie mark: "How the heck is your 'special talent' Improved Initiative?"
Some feats are just too generic for it to be an open thing. I'd think a decent list of options could be put together though with potential stuff good stuff for any approach. Like say:
Mark Spell- Select one spell of 3rd level or lower. This spell becomes a spell-like ability usable [some number scheme] a day with a CL equal to your character level. Alternately you may later choose to add this spell to your spell list as a bonus spell, loosing the spell like ability. If you apply metamagic feats to this spell, you may treat its actual level as 1 lower (minimum +0) for determining the spell’s final adjusted level.
Magic Mark- Select a single spell descriptor (eg: fire, good, polymorph) and whenever you cast spells of that type they enjoy either a +2 caster level bonus or add +1 to the DC for all saving throws against that spell.
Martial Mark- Select either a single type of weapon or combat maneuver, rolls for the selected weapon or manuver enjoy a +1 bonus. At [some leveling scheme] this bonus increases to +2/etc. If you select a weapon you also gain proficiency in that weapon.
Skill Mark- Select a single skill, you gain Skill Focus as a bonus feat for this skill and it is always a class skill for you. At 6th level you may take 10 on checks with this skill even if endangered or distracted, provided you may ordinarily take 10 on the usage under peaceful conditions.
Maybe a few more along these lines.
Like i said to the guy who asked if organizations are funny or serious, both. Pinky Pie's inflatable fingers worked for a mirror clone of sorts. I like to joke about it being glueons. They make atoms share electrons or photons, and stick together.
I'm working on Science llamas now. Where there's no show, there's no lawyers.
Ponyfinder needs to find a new home.
Not on a page for real gamers, Im sad to see this day.
Ponyfinder needs to find a new home.
Not on a page for real gamers, Im sad to see this day.
You can hide the topic. It obviously doesn't have anything for you.
I really like those ideas for the cutie marks. It is supposed to represent the thing your best at after all so it could be a little stronger.
A bit min/maxish abusable but then it's a game where we're going to attempt to play colourful ponies so that can be alright.
Well I must admit my real answer to balance is largely thus:
Ponies. Are. Awesome.
So I kinda went with some intentionally awesome stuff. If concern on power they can each be turned down rather easily. Make the SLA a 1/day thing and you have the Tiefling/Aasimar abilities. You can pick up +1s and +2s from the right traits half the time.
Or alternately don't make this a built in thing but a 1st only Feat. You pick it or loose it and your cutie mark just isn't a prevalent part of your character as a result.
Or make it not stack with certain similar abilities like Spell Focus.
Anyone going to play Ponyfinder probably isn't going to be knocking around Goblins in Sandpoint next to Seoni so balance is mostly a question of against itself.
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Well if it's going to go with Ponyfinder for a name then the options in it should be usable in the regular Adventure Paths as well wouldn't you think? I'd imagine that being similar in power to an Aasimar or a Tiefling would probably be a reasonable cap. With my experience that's usually the lowest tier "monster" race I've seen in most games.
Oh, so instead of a class ability a new classification of feats [Cutie Mark] that could be expanded out with a suggestion of what form it might take but let it be left open to the players and GM's.
It's also interesting to think of how the different tribes are related together in the scope of world building. Magic, Engineering, Weather Capabilities, Emotions and the like all mixing together to form societies. I suppose it all is kind of an underlying magic inherent to all of them differently. The unicorns are just kind of have the flashier abilities.
I think if your GM is willing to do the work to support colourful ponies in an AP, then boosting the AP's power level to account for slightly more powerful abilities is probably not too hard.
@Da'ath: I actually find you needing to looking that up oddly comforting in a way. Proof the world isn't as small as I sometimes fear. If you are interested I've always found knowyourmeme's page probably the best quick overview of the phenomena.
And while I don't know it to be true I do know a Brony dad that watches the show happily with his daughter... so wouldn't put it past possiblity to happen.
Very helpful - thank you.
In our house, it's Mickey Mouse Clubhouse I watch with my daughter, lol.