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Chechens, huh? Didn't see that coming...
Sounds a bit more complex than that.
19 years old and lived in the US since 2001, when he was 7...
Before that, ethnically Chechen: lived in Kyrgyzstan and Dagestan.
I know that is a big ol' Russia/Georgia-border-party but you can't read too much into that.
They've been in America long enough (and during an influential part of their development) that you could just as easily say 'Americans, huh? Didn't see that coming...'
We don't really know anything meaningful, and the internet has already made a complete idiot of itself because of assumptions.
See the internet being wrong, and making life hard for people.
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Sounds a bit more complex than that.
19 years old and lived in the US since 2001, when he was 7...
Before that, ethnically Chechen: lived in Kyrgyzstan and Dagestan.
Oh, did they stop being ethnically Chechen?
I know that is a big ol' Russia/Georgia-border-party but you can't read too much into that.
I don't believe I read anything into it. Rampant media speculation, which you later link, was ping-ponging between al-Qaeda and right-wing American. Turns out they were all wrong.
They've been in America long enough (and during an influential part of their development) that you could just as easily say 'Americans, huh? Didn't see that coming...'
Except, of course, that was Erroneous Theory #2 being worked by the punditocracy, so it wouldn't have been much of a surprise.
We don't really know anything meaningful, and the internet has already made a complete idiot of itself because of assumptions.
See the internet being wrong, and making life hard for people.
I'm pretty sure I didn't post that until Tamurlan had already been killed in a firefight. I understand the warning against internet vigilantism, but I don't see how I contributed to making life harder for anyone.
my sister lives in watertown.
she was able to hear the shooting from her home last night.
this completely freaks me out.
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We don't really know anything meaningful, and the internet has already made a complete idiot of itself because of assumptions.
See the internet being wrong, and making life hard for people.
Similar.We don't really know anything meaningful, and the internet has already made a complete idiot of itself because of assumptions.
See the internet being wrong, and making life hard for people.
... okay what am I looking at here
Even the Westboro Baptist Church knows you don't f!!$ with Teamsters Local 25.
Teamster Thug #1: "Did you see anyone hit that Westboro freak?"
Teamster Thug #2: "Nah, I didn't see nothin'. How about you, Jimmy?"
Teamster Thug #3 (while punching a Westboro freak):
"Forget about it, I was down the Cape all weekend!"
Man, the list of affected regions is basically a list of where I've lived.
Kendall Sq (MIT), Inman Square, Watertown... I can see all of these places exactly in my mind as I listen to the radio.
Yeah, it's crazy, right? First apartment in Boston was in Inman Square, used to work at the UPS near the Arsenal Mall, sold commie newspapers at MIT all the time.
Anyway, just saw some Mass. FEMA dude saying you could go home and. And then I saw a picture of Tamurlane Tardaev with frickin' Mickey Ward.
My girlfriend was in Boston for a science conference in February. Stayed at the hotel where the unexploded bomb was found.
Ah, you should've let me know, Comrade Meatrace. I could've shown her around...
Ah, you should've let me know, Comrade Meatrace. I could've shown her around...
She was busy with the conference/thing/whatever anyway. Also, another friend was there for PAX. Like, half the people I know have been to or are going to Boston this year. It's weird.
Well, lemme know about the hawt chicks.
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Ah, you should've let me know, Comrade Meatrace. I could've shown her around...
That's exacly why he didn't tell you... With that whiole goblin fetish for streets. :P
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We do it in hotel rooms, too.
Ok, so I find it hard to laugh at this butwtf boston cops
Do you really need to confirm the stereotype? Really?
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Teamster Thug #1: "Did you see anyone hit that Westboro freak?"
Teamster Thug #2: "Nah, I didn't see nothin'. How about you, Jimmy?"
Teamster Thug #3 (while punching a Westboro freak):
"Forget about it, I was down the Cape all weekend!"
I can confirm He was on the cape. LOL
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Teamster Thug #1: "Did you see anyone hit that Westboro freak?"
Teamster Thug #2: "Nah, I didn't see nothin'. How about you, Jimmy?"
Teamster Thug #3 (while punching a Westboro freak):
"Forget about it, I was down the Cape all weekend!"
So does that mean you are also The Godfather of all goblins too?
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[Extends arm]
Kiss the ring, biznitch.
[Extends arm]
Kiss the ring, biznitch.
So you are Don Comrade Anklebiter...somehow that just works.
I'd tell you to kiss something else, but it will only get deleted.
In all seriousness, though, the Westboro asshats are allegedly supposed to show up at the memorial meeting for the MIT officer today.
[Scurries off to scour the internet]
Dropkick Murphys selling charity shirt
Love this band and they are donating 100% of the proceeds from this shirt to the families of the victims of this tragedy. Its been written theyve already got $100k. I got one!
In all seriousness, though, the Westboro asshats are allegedly supposed to show up at the memorial meeting for the MIT officer today.
[Scurries off to scour the internet]
I hope one of the students has somehing appropriate for them.. like cordoning off the area between two van de graff generators or something...
In case anyone needs to get rid of anything, make it disappear, I work at a landfill. Just throwing it out there. ;)In all seriousness, though, the Westboro asshats are allegedly supposed to show up at the memorial meeting for the MIT officer today.
[Scurries off to scour the internet]
Dude...I would not pollute a landfill that way.
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i'm not sure who your ire is directed at. ANONYMOUS' twitter feed?
From the article, it appears as though he drowned a month before the attacks.
Wrap him in bacon and cremate him.
F!## that. Seriously, f!#% it. We don't bury people because they were shining paragons of virtue. We bury them because they are DEAD. If americans can't be trusted not to violate the graves of people they don't like, well... Out of respect for forum rules, I will not finish that sentence.
Unfortunately, dear Sissyl, while the majority of Americans would not desecrate the graves of anyone (though I will admit I would be tempted to spit on the graves of certain individuals) there are some twisted individuals who would feel they were seeking justice in doing just that - destroying the headstone and fouling the ground is an appropriate punishment in their minds. No matter what we say or do there will always be that minority that gives the majority a bad wrap. Perhaps someday we will all be enlightened at least to the point where the worst we want to do is spit or dance on their graves and perhaps even not that.
Ah, but that is a discussion for another day and I'd rather not start any fires.
Yeah, refusing to bury the body and desecrating the grave has nothing to do with the dead guy. It's all about the perpetrator's own satisfaction, and causing pain to the family. He can't feel it, he won't know it. He's dead. Respecting the body is respecting the living, not the dead.
I think you hit the nail on the head. I couldn't have said it better myself.
The more people know this the better:
Westboro Baptist is a litigation scam. They want you to physically assault them. They should be ignored.
So hurting the families of the dead person will make things better? Yeah. Cute. Besides, last I heard, there was a pending case against the policemen involved, and one of the pieces of evidence was a movie of the now dead bomber being moved after being taken by the police - apparently unharmed at the time. There was a claim by the police that he killed himself with a gun while hiding in the boat... Only no gun was found, either on him or in the boat. If it is true, it speaks volumes about the justice system of the old US and A.
There's a linked thing on imgur above that suggests there's a lot messed up about how this is being handled. Not sure how seriously to take it - on the one hand, it has severe conspiracy theorist vibes the way it's set up. On the other, if it's true about this thing with gun/no gun, and more importantly the lack of injuries when he was taken uninjured then had injuries shown later (which is mentioned in said semi-conspiracy-seeming imgur post), then just how much else of it might need doubts cast on it?
As I said, I have no deeper knowledge of this. But that is why you have investigations: To make things clearer. To understand what happened. So, if this is handled in a less than stellar fashion, many people are going to assume that some Sergeant Goodoleboy shot the guy after catching him. If this is then denied by the authorities, the assumption is going to be he was ordered to do so. That could get ugly fast.
Well then. We will see what happens. I confused the two. I believe the police reported gunfire from Tamerlan, but they did not find a gun.
The more people know this the better:
Westboro Baptist is a litigation scam. They want you to physically assault them. They should be ignored.
Its a pretty dangerous scam. They're going to picket the wrong funeral and someone's sniper buddy is going to play Gallagher with their heads.
THAT would be a critical success for them... Admittedly, only those not present would benefit, but hey, you can't have everything.
The more people know this the better:
Westboro Baptist is a litigation scam. They want you to physically assault them. They should be ignored.
Its a pretty dangerous scam. They're going to picket the wrong funeral and someone's sniper buddy is going to play Gallagher with their heads.
Well, that would require a real sociopath. Perhaps for this exact reason, they tend to target good people, who have a lot of discipline, restraint, and courage. Soldiers, activists, survivors of tragedy. They just need to make those people crack a little to get what they want.
Most people are pretty decent, and they try to push decent people into mistakes, from which they profit.
I mean, my cockles are warmed as much as the next guy's at the prospect of vigilantism putting those folks in their place... but the sad fact is, that's exactly what they're hoping for.
Better to deny them success.
EDIT: BNW, if what you proposed came to pass, the organization would sue the police and first responders, the organizers of the event, the property owners, and obviously anyone even remotely connected to the perpetrators. They would then get a gag order put on all of it.
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As I said, if the WBC holler outside your funeral, you were a good person.
Well, that would require a real sociopath. Perhaps for this exact reason, they tend to target good people, who have a lot of discipline, restraint, and courage. Soldiers, activists, survivors of tragedy. They just need to make those people crack a little to get what they want.
That can be like cracking a dam just a little.
I have to wonder if the people on the ground are in the on the scam or just really deluded true believers that don't understand how much danger they're in.
Well, that would require a real sociopath. Perhaps for this exact reason, they tend to target good people, who have a lot of discipline, restraint, and courage. Soldiers, activists, survivors of tragedy. They just need to make those people crack a little to get what they want.That can be like cracking a dam just a little.
I have to wonder if the people on the ground are in the on the scam or just really deluded true believers that don't understand how much danger they're in.
If I had to speculate, I'd say there's a grain of true belief in what they're doing. But most of it is a means to a financial end.
I'm gonna stop talking about it before they slap me with a subpoena.
Just remember to ignore them, folks!
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If I had to speculate, I'd say there's a grain of true belief in what they're doing. But most of it is a means to a financial end.
I'm gonna stop talking about it before they slap me with a subpoena.
Applies to a different sue happy group, but EL's comment made me think of this
couldn't find the clip so I had to quote...
Peter: The Millennium Group's not interested in publicity.
Frank: No, no, it's not about us: in fact, he's working on a case that could be of great interest to the group. This Selfosophist was found...
Peter: Whoa, Selfosophy? No, no ...
Frank: What is going on, Peter? We've never backed away from anything. We've even faced evil incarnate.
Peter: Evil incarnate can't sue. All I'm saying is be careful about what you say around your writer friend.