Kitsune Monk... can I do this?


Rules Questions


so I am wondering...

11th level kitsune monk with vulpine pounce...

can I charge 120 feet and make 6 attacks? (flurry of blows 5 and a bite)
or 5 attacks (flurry of blows 5)
or 3 attacks (two hit full attack + 1 bite)
or 2 attacks (two hit full attack)

or am i just reading it wrong?


I would say the first is correct.
You either get to make a full-attack, which allows you to flurry and bite, or you only get a single attack.


If you have the Feat that allows Natural Attacks with FoB.


as an addition to this question.

if i have the fox form... can I shift from fox to human as a swift or do i require a shift from fox to kitsune and from kitsune to human (meaning 2 swift actions.


A Swift regardless of form.


what feat that allows nat attacks with FoB?


The 2nd is correct, because you can not make natural attacks in addition to a flurry of blows.

The feat that Azaelas mentioned is Feral Combat Training, and that only lets you use the selected natural attack as if it were a monk weapon... so you could do a flurry of bites instead of a flurry of punches. It doesn't let you make the bite attack in addition to the standard flurry.

I guess 3 and 4 could be correct as well.


Flurry requires a Full Round Action so you can't charge before your Flurry. For that matter, I don't think you'd get your bite attack either.


Misunderstood Monk wrote:
Flurry requires a Full Round Action so you can't charge before your Flurry. For that matter, I don't think you'd get your bite attack either.

He can do a charge + full attack with the Vulpine Pounce feat.


well that's handy


Sorry was thinking of 3.5's Feral Ascetic Feat...


Ok if he charges he only gets 1 attack at full BAB. Charging allows you to only make one standard attack not a full round attack.

Now on the second round when you are able to make a full attack you would get all 5 from flurry of blows AND your bite attack.

There are feats out there that can change this, things like pounce and such but without those feats it is only 1 attack after a charge.


@Banecrow: If you look he references the Vulpine Pounce Feat.


Azaelas Fayth wrote:
@Banecrow: If you look he references the Vulpine Pounce Feat.

Dam missed that line lol.

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Banecrow wrote:
Now on the second round when you are able to make a full attack you would get all 5 from flurry of blows AND your bite attack.
Flurry of Blows wrote:
A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands. A monk may substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of a flurry of blows. A monk cannot use any weapon other than an unarmed strike or a special monk weapon as part of a flurry of blows. A monk with natural weapons cannot use such weapons as part of a flurry of blows, nor can he make natural attacks in addition to his flurry of blows attacks.


works for me.

charging 120 feet and getting 5 attacks is pretty cool no matter how you work it.

starting off as a wee fox and doing that is just epic in visualization.


I can just see a Fox charging their Target, jumping, shifting while in the air then launching into a 5 Kick Combo against their target.

And I now know my next NPC...


Isn't the pounce feat BAB minimum 10?

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