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Could a hypothetical Shoanti character become a Paladin? Seems like, from what I've read, they'd view that as heretical, as most of the paladin gods were brought in by foreigners. Abadar, Sarenrae and Iomedae seem to have largely been introduced by Korvosans. Most of the more local gods that the Shoanti and Varisians share don't allow paladins, whether due to being Chaotic like Desna, or they're solidly Neutral like Pharasma. So...would a Shoanti paladin be viewed as some kind of culture traitor despite their honor and deeds?
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Hello,
if you could chose any three authors (I mean, *anyone* including long dead authors) from human history to write books for the Pathfinders Tales line, who would they be?
for me, its:
1) Stephen King
2) H. P. Lovecraft
3) Terry Pratchett
so how about you?
Also, if someone was going to make a high budget, summer blockbuster type of movie set in Golarion, where would you have liked the plot to happen?
Last question - if said movie would have been a film adaptation of "Death's Heretic", who do you think would have been awesome in the role of Salim?
What are Moral Ambiguity and Hard Fantasy about?So there was no way I was going to PaizoCon (too far), so I missed all the writer's seminars and workshops, but might make it to GenCon and I know Paizo is a big presence there this year, so I was wondering if you were doing any panels, seminars, or workshops at GenCon?Yes indeed! I'll be in a bunch of different panels as part of the Writers' Symposium:
Thursday at 1:00: Moral Ambiguity
Thursday at 5:00: Literary Alchemy (with Patrick Rothfuss!)
Saturday at 9:00a: RPG Fiction
Saturday at 3:00: Space Opera
Saturday at 4:00: Hard FantasyThere's also a Pathfinder Tales panel on Sunday afternoon, and possibly more I don't know about yet.
Hope to see you there!
Moral Ambiguity will probably go a little something like this.
I think hard fantasy will be about realism and "true" medieval fantasy.
Ah, I see. It was just something I was wondering about randomly. Though now...I've been reading a book recently about how the discovery of America changed things up a lot thanks to the import and export of various species, many totally unwittingly, and how while some couldn't survive out of their ecology, and some just managed to fit into an existing niche with minimal disturbance, plenty of them did some pretty drastic alterations of the ecology. Sometimes just bugs, seeds, worms, and bacteria, sometimes actively bringing in domesticated animals.
Really gets you thinking, we've got gates from Castrovel to Golarion and Castrovel to Akiton, furthermore we know that humans exist on Golarion, on Akiton (since it's said they're effectively a different ethnicity rather than a different, humanlike race like the triaxians, elves, or lashunta)...and even on Earth, of course. Elves we know live at least both on Castrovel and on Golarion. And from Distant Worlds we've got Moonflowers that bloom on Castrovel, Triaxus, and Golarion's moon, ratfolk I presume hang out on Golarion somewhere in addition to Akiton, and girallons may have originally come from Akiton where they're common, behirs are common on Akiton and Golarion...so there's definitely some interplanetary intermingling going on of the ecosystems. Really makes you wonder what might have originally come from where before mixing around.
I was originally thinking about this since I was originally on the train of thought of thinking about similarities between natives to Castrovel, ie, elves and lashunta (both are at least intelligent, and female lashunta tend to be slender like elves), but then I remembered what seems like an almost riotous menagerie of creatures on Golarion and wondered how you could ever try and pin down a common point...but maybe you don't really have to if you view Golarion's current ecosystem as being impacted by creatures from other planets thanks to the gates, as well as possibly other forms of interstellar travel (Vault Builders!), not...
Raised donuts. Unfrosted, if possible--that Krispy Kreme stuff is waaaay too sweet for me!
Could a hypothetical Shoanti character become a Paladin? Seems like, from what I've read, they'd view that as heretical, as most of the paladin gods were brought in by foreigners. Abadar, Sarenrae and Iomedae seem to have largely been introduced by Korvosans. Most of the more local gods that the Shoanti and Varisians share don't allow paladins, whether due to being Chaotic like Desna, or they're solidly Neutral like Pharasma. So...would a Shoanti paladin be viewed as some kind of culture traitor despite their honor and deeds?
A Shoanti person could *totally* become a paladin. There might indeed be some cultural weirdness depending on which god they pick and the experiences/prejudices of their individual family or tribe, but a paladin is so useful to a community that I imagine many folks would get over it (though obviously if the paladin gets too into preaching a foreign god, that might cause problems). I think you could play it either way!
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Could a hypothetical Shoanti character become a Paladin? Seems like, from what I've read, they'd view that as heretical, as most of the paladin gods were brought in by foreigners. Abadar, Sarenrae and Iomedae seem to have largely been introduced by Korvosans. Most of the more local gods that the Shoanti and Varisians share don't allow paladins, whether due to being Chaotic like Desna, or they're solidly Neutral like Pharasma. So...would a Shoanti paladin be viewed as some kind of culture traitor despite their honor and deeds?A Shoanti person could *totally* become a paladin. There might indeed be some cultural weirdness depending on which god they pick and the experiences/prejudices of their individual family or tribe, but a paladin is so useful to a community that I imagine many folks would get over it (though obviously if the paladin gets too into preaching a foreign god, that might cause problems). I think you could play it either way!
Okay, how about in a more specific sense, a half-elf with an exiled Shoanti mother that grew up in Korvosa and wants to be a knightly figure, but doesn't want to abandon his Shoanti heritage completely, almost becoming a bridge between their two worlds?
Hello,
if you could chose any three authors (I mean, *anyone* including long dead authors) from human history to write books for the Pathfinders Tales line, who would they be?
for me, its:1) Stephen King
2) H. P. Lovecraft
3) Terry Pratchettso how about you?
Also, if someone was going to make a high budget, summer blockbuster type of movie set in Golarion, where would you have liked the plot to happen?
Last question - if said movie would have been a film adaptation of "Death's Heretic", who do you think would have been awesome in the role of Salim?
Hmmm... I think my ideal PF Tales authors would be:
1) Brandon Sanderson
2) Patrick Rothfuss
3) China Mieville
For a summer blockbuster, I'd probably want it set in Kaer Maga for purely selfish reasons. Or maybe hopping all over the planes, so we could rack up an absurd SFX budget.
I know EXACTLY who should play Salim in a Death's Heretic film! I'd want it to be Naveen Andrews, the actor who played Sayid on LOST. He was definitely an inspiration for the character.
Hmmm... I think my ideal PF Tales authors would be:
1) Brandon Sanderson
2) Patrick Rothfuss
WINNER.
3) China Mieville
Guess I should probably look into this one, if they made the list with the other two so easily.
Hmmm... I think my ideal PF Tales authors would be:
1) Brandon Sanderson
2) Patrick RothfussWINNER.
3) China MievilleGuess I should probably look into this one, if they made the list with the other two so easily.
Having reviewed a couple of Mieville’s books, I can tell you they are brilliant but very very weird. Not for everyone. Here’s one line of my review for Kraken: “It's different. It's dark. It's scary. It's different. It's humorous. It's well written. It's worth reading. It's... did I say different? “
Mr. Sutter, what no Blaylock, Powers, Gaiman?
PS, thanks for luring Ed Greenwood over, his new book, The Wizard’s mask” is great!
How annoyed are you at not being named one of the PC monsters of genre?
Okay, how about in a more specific sense, a half-elf with an exiled Shoanti mother that grew up in Korvosa and wants to be a knightly figure, but doesn't want to abandon his Shoanti heritage completely, almost becoming a bridge between their two worlds?Could a hypothetical Shoanti character become a Paladin? Seems like, from what I've read, they'd view that as heretical, as most of the paladin gods were brought in by foreigners. Abadar, Sarenrae and Iomedae seem to have largely been introduced by Korvosans. Most of the more local gods that the Shoanti and Varisians share don't allow paladins, whether due to being Chaotic like Desna, or they're solidly Neutral like Pharasma. So...would a Shoanti paladin be viewed as some kind of culture traitor despite their honor and deeds?A Shoanti person could *totally* become a paladin. There might indeed be some cultural weirdness depending on which god they pick and the experiences/prejudices of their individual family or tribe, but a paladin is so useful to a community that I imagine many folks would get over it (though obviously if the paladin gets too into preaching a foreign god, that might cause problems). I think you could play it either way!
Sure! You could totally play that--at that point, I imagine most conflicts would be in the character's head anyway, so it's up to you.
Hmmm... I think my ideal PF Tales authors would be:
1) Brandon Sanderson
2) Patrick RothfussWINNER.
3) China MievilleGuess I should probably look into this one, if they made the list with the other two so easily.Having reviewed a couple of Mieville’s books, I can tell you they are brilliant but very very weird. Not for everyone. Here’s one line of my review for Kraken: “It's different. It's dark. It's scary. It's different. It's humorous. It's well written. It's worth reading. It's... did I say different? “
Mr. Sutter, what no Blaylock, Powers, Gaiman?
PS, thanks for luring Ed Greenwood over, his new book, The Wizard’s mask” is great!
China's work is indeed very, very weird, but that's part of the charm of it. If he were to write a book for us, I think we'd both want it to be set in Outsea, the town he created for the River Kingdoms. He actually proposed such an idea once, before his agent and I reminded him that there was absolutely, positively no way Paizo could afford to pay his rates. But it was a nice thought. :)
As for Gaiman and the others--my choices weren't just about how much I like each author, but how well their style of fantasy would fit into the setting. I can't really imagine someone like Gaiman writing straight-up sword-and-sorcery fantasy, though I suppose I could be surprised. After all, Michael Chabon is one of those fantasy writers that all the snobby literary critics love, yet his Gentlemen of the Road was one giant love letter to pulp sword-swinging adventure. I'd invite him into the line any day!
when is the demon smiting paladin tale expected?
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Sure! You could totally play that--at that point, I imagine most conflicts would be in the character's head anyway, so it's up to you.Okay, how about in a more specific sense, a half-elf with an exiled Shoanti mother that grew up in Korvosa and wants to be a knightly figure, but doesn't want to abandon his Shoanti heritage completely, almost becoming a bridge between their two worlds?Could a hypothetical Shoanti character become a Paladin? Seems like, from what I've read, they'd view that as heretical, as most of the paladin gods were brought in by foreigners. Abadar, Sarenrae and Iomedae seem to have largely been introduced by Korvosans. Most of the more local gods that the Shoanti and Varisians share don't allow paladins, whether due to being Chaotic like Desna, or they're solidly Neutral like Pharasma. So...would a Shoanti paladin be viewed as some kind of culture traitor despite their honor and deeds?A Shoanti person could *totally* become a paladin. There might indeed be some cultural weirdness depending on which god they pick and the experiences/prejudices of their individual family or tribe, but a paladin is so useful to a community that I imagine many folks would get over it (though obviously if the paladin gets too into preaching a foreign god, that might cause problems). I think you could play it either way!
But isn't there anti-Shoanti racism in Korvosa?
all the snobby literary critics love
Hey!
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Would you say it's true that there are certain kinds of stories Golarion simply isn't built to contain? I think of something like the Trojan War, certainly an epic tale, but one that would be difficult to reproduce on Golarion. The gods likely wouldn't be petty enough to goad mortals into a decade-long war that results in the flower of the lands' youth perishing, snuffing out one of the greatest cities in the world and ending an age of heroes, over a single woman being used as a bribe to the judge of a divine beauty contest, started because one goddess got angry that she wasn't invited to a wedding. Gods like Shelyn, Iomedae or Sarenrae would likely be the FIRST to say "something like this is wrong."
Would you say that playing a Greek tragedy in Golarion doesn't exactly work? A campaign where heroes soar to great heights and ultimately lose everything from their inherently flawed nature, the justice the gods provide is not good or noble, but merely an assertion of their power over mortals' lives and demands of their behavior, even though they themselves are egocentric beings that treat mortals as expendable pawns in their petty games of one-upmanship and revenge for everything from percieved slights (Athena's treatment of Arachne, Apollo and Artemis' cruel slaying of Niobe's children, etc.) to genuine grievances that can't actually be rectified (Hera's continual harassment of Zeus' lovers and children because she can't take justice from Zeus himself, and Poseidon's revenge against Odysseus for the blinding of Polyphemus)?
Having recently submitted my first adventure for publication, I was hoping to get some insight into your work not only as a writer, but as an editor. I wanted to chat with you at PaizoCon, but found myself at more panels than I expected and didn't have a chance to sign up and see you. Anyway, on with the questions!
1. I understanding going over word or page count is a common occurrence when it comes to writing. In that situation it's relatively easy to trim down to the core of the ideas. However, what do you do if you find yourself coming short? Also, how do you deal with writer's block?
2. I've learned how much of a blessing a good editor can be. Are there any instances of an editor suggesting changes or revisions so radical that you felt the need to speak up? If so, what is the best way to approach the discussion?
3. Besides meeting your deadlines and word counts, what do you as an editor suggest for a writer to make the editing process as painless as possible?
Thanks for your input.
Hmmm... I think my ideal PF Tales authors would be:
1) Brandon Sanderson
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I can't say "YES!" to this enough times...
when is the demon smiting paladin tale expected?
August! That'd be King of Chaos, by Dave Gross.
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Would you say it's true that there are certain kinds of stories Golarion simply isn't built to contain? I think of something like the Trojan War, certainly an epic tale, but one that would be difficult to reproduce on Golarion. The gods likely wouldn't be petty enough to goad mortals into a decade-long war that results in the flower of the lands' youth perishing, snuffing out one of the greatest cities in the world and ending an age of heroes, over a single woman being used as a bribe to the judge of a divine beauty contest, started because one goddess got angry that she wasn't invited to a wedding. Gods like Shelyn, Iomedae or Sarenrae would likely be the FIRST to say "something like this is wrong."
Would you say that playing a Greek tragedy in Golarion doesn't exactly work? A campaign where heroes soar to great heights and ultimately lose everything from their inherently flawed nature, the justice the gods provide is not good or noble, but merely an assertion of their power over mortals' lives and demands of their behavior, even though they themselves are egocentric beings that treat mortals as expendable pawns in their petty games of one-upmanship and revenge for everything from percieved slights (Athena's treatment of Arachne, Apollo and Artemis' cruel slaying of Niobe's children, etc.) to genuine grievances that can't actually be rectified (Hera's continual harassment of Zeus' lovers and children because she can't take justice from Zeus himself, and Poseidon's revenge against Odysseus for the blinding of Polyphemus)?
Here's the thing: We built Golarion to provide ideas for adventures, but ultimately it can be whatever you want it to be. Personally, I see absolutely no reason why a Greek-tragedy style adventure couldn't happen there (and as for gods and their agents messing directly in the lives of mortals... well, you might want to check out my novel, Death's Heretic).
So on the one hand, there probably are adventures--say, blowing up the moon or turning Avistan into a smoking apocalyptic crater--that we aren't going to publish. But if you want to run those sorts of things in your home Pathfinder game, we don't just allow it--we encourage it! These are your toys! Smash them together however you want! Set them on fire! Make them fall in love! Leave them under Dad's car tire so that they get flattened! The only thing that matters to us is that people are having fun. As long as that's happening, we're happy.
Here's the thing: We built Golarion to provide ideas for adventures, but ultimately it can be whatever you want it to be.
Hear, hear.
Don't tell Wes, but I've turned Ustalav from gothic horror land to scheming principalities and petty nobles land. (I'm not a horror fan, so I doubt I could GM it very well anyway.)
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Here's the thing: We built Golarion to provide ideas for adventures, but ultimately it can be whatever you want it to be. Personally, I see absolutely no reason why a Greek-tragedy style adventure couldn't happen there (and as for gods and their agents messing directly in the lives of mortals... well, you might want to check out my novel, Death's Heretic).
Well...I just kinda did drop approximately $200 on Pathfinder books over the past two days (and some caffeinated mints), so that may have to wait.
I suppose part of the problem is me, and what my friends see as an irrational devotion to canonicity. I don't like my stories contradicting your stories because if I want to play your later stories that my story contradicts, then things get even more twisted, and before you know it I can't play Wrath of the Righteous because my Kingmaker characters already went to the Worldwound and sealed it up after finishing Sound of a Thousand Screams!
when is the demon smiting paladin tale expected?August! That'd be King of Chaos, by Dave Gross.
hmm. ok my expectations have dropped significately, but i'll be buying the book anyway, even if only for the sake of being a completionist, and crossing the fingers.
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Having recently submitted my first adventure for publication, I was hoping to get some insight into your work not only as a writer, but as an editor. I wanted to chat with you at PaizoCon, but found myself at more panels than I expected and didn't have a chance to sign up and see you. Anyway, on with the questions!
1. I understanding going over word or page count is a common occurrence when it comes to writing. In that situation it's relatively easy to trim down to the core of the ideas. However, what do you do if you find yourself coming short? Also, how do you deal with writer's block?
2. I've learned how much of a blessing a good editor can be. Are there any instances of an editor suggesting changes or revisions so radical that you felt the need to speak up? If so, what is the best way to approach the discussion?
3. Besides meeting your deadlines and word counts, what do you as an editor suggest for a writer to make the editing process as painless as possible?
Thanks for your input.
1. Writer's block is a luxury none of us can afford. Don't wait for the muse. Just write something. Anything. Sometimes it'll be crap, but I generally find that once I push through my inertia, it gets easier and I start finding things I like. Some of my favorite setting details have come out of deadline desperation. Writing is like exercise. It doesn't really matter WHAT you do--as long as you do something, you'll get some good out of it.
2. It's important to talk to your editors, especially if you feel strongly about something. Being an editor myself, I've certainly pushed back (politely) as a writer when an editor wanted to make a change that was grammatically incorrect. In general, if you talk with your editor and are friendly, they'll be friendly back. The two things to remember, though, is that most editors have a lot of experience to bring to bear, and are generally trying their hardest to make you look good--if they suggest something, have your kneejerk reaction privately, and then think long and hard about what they've suggested, and if you can live with it. In my mind, it's always better to have a published novel that's 97% the way you wanted it instead of an unpublished one that's exactly how you want it. Your tolerance may vary. In general, don't be a jerk. The editor's just trying to help.
3. PROOFREAD YOUR WORK. Spellcheck. Grammar check. Set it aside and read it again. Change the font size and spacing and read it again. Read it out loud. Let a friend read it. In short, do everything you can to polish your piece before you give it to the editor. The cleaner your book is coming in, the more the editor can focus on turning your A-grade work into an A+. It also shows respect for the editor's time. Seriously, if an author doesn't bother to spellcheck and proofread a manuscript before turning it over, that's basically like giving an editor the finger. Conversely, squeaky-clean prose will earn editors' eternal love (and more contracts).
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Here's the thing: We built Golarion to provide ideas for adventures, but ultimately it can be whatever you want it to be. Personally, I see absolutely no reason why a Greek-tragedy style adventure couldn't happen there (and as for gods and their agents messing directly in the lives of mortals... well, you might want to check out my novel, Death's Heretic).Well...I just kinda did drop approximately $200 on Pathfinder books over the past two days (and some caffeinated mints), so that may have to wait.
I suppose part of the problem is me, and what my friends see as an irrational devotion to canonicity. I don't like my stories contradicting your stories because if I want to play your later stories that my story contradicts, then things get even more twisted, and before you know it I can't play Wrath of the Righteous because my Kingmaker characters already went to the Worldwound and sealed it up after finishing Sound of a Thousand Screams!
Well the good news is that the people at Paizo are striving to make it so you don't have to worry about it. Only one of their Adventure Paths makes assumptions that other adventures had already occurred.
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what tropes do you think fantasy settings (in general and specifically Golarion) are missing out on?
Honestly, our biggest goal when we were first creating Golarion was to *not* leave out tropes! Rather than making a setting that's a one- or two-trick pony, we wanted to be able to do gothic horror, revolutionary fantasy, steampunk, low magic, sword and planet, vikings, Middle Eastern, post-apocalyptic wasteland survival... even full-on science fiction on the other planets! Everything we loved went into that stewpot!
As a result, I can't really think of what's still missing off the top of my head, as each time I come up with something, I try to find a way to squeeze it in (like how Triaxus in Distant Worlds allowed us to finally have a setting full of dragon-riding). So the real question for me is: what do YOU think we're still missing, and would like to see?
1. Writer's block is a luxury none of us can afford. Don't wait for the muse. Just write something. Anything. Sometimes it'll be crap, but I generally find that once I push through my inertia, it gets easier and I start finding things I like. Some of my favorite setting details have come out of deadline desperation. Writing is like exercise. It doesn't really matter WHAT you do--as long as you do something, you'll get some good out of it.
Well said. I don't do the same kind of writing at all, and don't get paid for it by any stretch, but at least once a week I get up and dread the thought of doing my blog. Then I do it and wonder where the time went.
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what tropes do you think fantasy settings (in general and specifically Golarion) are missing out on?Honestly, our biggest goal when we were first creating Golarion was to *not* leave out tropes! Rather than making a setting that's a one- or two-trick pony, we wanted to be able to do gothic horror, revolutionary fantasy, steampunk, low magic, sword and planet, vikings, Middle Eastern, post-apocalyptic wasteland survival... even full-on science fiction on the other planets! Everything we loved went into that stewpot!
As a result, I can't really think of what's still missing off the top of my head, as each time I come up with something, I try to find a way to squeeze it in (like how Triaxus in Distant Worlds allowed us to finally have a setting full of dragon-riding). So the real question for me is: what do YOU think we're still missing, and would like to see?
Not many, and the ones that come to mind are intellectual properties you can't use so theres that
also, i'm not sure your allowed to ask questions back :P
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Re what are y'all missing...
Well, James, you're still missing Celtic culture/folklore*. And South Asian. Sorta. Both are covered piecemeal or are off the map.
Here's a few more:
True Bronze Age/Classical Greek region (Iblydos?)
Shakespearean/Spenserian Fantasy. Maybe in the First World?
Psychic powers (also exist, but not yet described)
Australian myth and folklore
Native American myth and folklore (that's a pretty broad category)
The Dreamlands
Rune Magic (kludgeable with the Midgard book on Vikings)
Talking Animals as PCs (no rules for magical beasts in the ARG)
These all exist in Golarion, but are either difficult, require a huge amount of homebrew (my Vudra/India notes and rules are 300 pages long) or impossible to run in the extant systems provided.
Not many major tropes are missing. You have to get into fantastic literature as a whole and out of swords & sorcery to uncover them.
*This one frustrates me because it's also missing from my other favourite setting, Midgard. I realise, however, that when it's bad, it stinks, so maybe it scares away the world designers.
At least in my own experience, a LOT of Celtic stuff works really well as a basis for Fey. But there could really stand to be more of it, I agree.
The difficulty may be that what we think of as Celtic was kind of a done deal by the late Medieval period most fantasy settings are set in, historically speaking. Having said that, anything taking inspiration from Scottish/Irish history from that time would have a *lot* of suitably grim stuff to draw on, plus Gallowglass or Kern archetypes/prestige classes would be super :)
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The difficulty may be that what we think of as Celtic was kind of a done deal by the late Medieval period most fantasy settings are set in, historically speaking. Having said that, anything taking inspiration from Scottish/Irish history from that time would have a *lot* of suitably grim stuff to draw on, plus Gallowglass or Kern archetypes/prestige classes would be super :)
That depends on what you mean. The golden age of Irish literature and Welsh poetry is the late Medieval period; many of its works describe the pre-Roman or Dark Age period but were written down or adapted into literature then. Of course, being Cornish/Welsh/Irish/Scottish I tend to think the culture(s) still exist. Damage was done to it, but it's as real as another other indigenous group that persists in a modern environment.
And of course, there are neolithic people living in the Realm of the Mammoth Lords, near Ustalav, which is somewhere between the 15th-19th Centuries in culture if not tech, so the late medieval thing doesn't really hold water.
Yes, a lot of our concepts of the Fey derive from Celtic legend. I could imagine a quasi-Celtic society in the First World.
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also, i'm not sure your allowed to ask questions back :P
This thread changes its name to "James Sutter Asks You All His Questions Here!"
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Will the 'secret' of the Iridian Fold (whatever that might be) be revealed here...?
Yes. It's time. :D
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Yes. It's time. :D
Will the 'secret' of the Iridian Fold (whatever that might be) be revealed here...?
Cool! I was going to use an Iridian Fold duo for a Summoner idea, if I played up in Kaer Maga way, with the two of them switching off who got to wear the chain, just to extra confuse people...
On the one hand, I'm seeing something like the green Aes Sedai witches and their mystically oath-bonded warrior Warders, but that has a built in limitation of the pair having to be one spellcaster and one melee, and I also like the idea that the two could be both warriors or rogues, trained in tandem fighting, or something even more unusual, like a secretive cabal of necromancers who hide the (meticulously maintained) undead status of their 'protectors' with veils and subterfuge.
Gosh. There's so many ways this can go...
They could be psychically / spiritually linked ascetics, or some sort of aberrant hive-mind thing best not known concealing their glistening skin and dead black eyes under their veils, or a Golarionized version of the Dvati, for all I know. Fun!
That depends on what you mean. The golden age of Irish literature and Welsh poetry is the late Medieval period; many of its works describe the pre-Roman or Dark Age period but were written down or adapted into literature then. Of course, being Cornish/Welsh/Irish/Scottish I tend to think the culture(s) still exist. Damage was done to it, but it's as real as another other indigenous group that persists in a modern environment.
And of course, there are neolithic people living in the Realm of the Mammoth Lords, near Ustalav, which is somewhere between the 15th-19th Centuries in culture if not tech, so the late medieval thing doesn't really hold water.
Yes, a lot of our concepts of the Fey derive from Celtic legend. I could imagine a quasi-Celtic society in the First World.
I'd be interested in seeing that - how would you picture a quasi-Celtic society in that context?
EDIT: Can't phrase response how I'd like to, so flagged for deletion. Ignore!
What do YOU think we're still missing, and would like to see?
Latin American and Spanish folklore and mythology! Alebrijes, more coatls, moai, Huay Chivo, the cucuy, Marimonda, encantado, the Sayona, the Tunda, the Patasola, nagual, and the weeping woman. So much to draw from!
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What do YOU think we're still missing, and would like to see?Latin American and Spanish folklore and mythology! Alebrijes, more coatls, moai, Huay Chivo, the cucuy, Marimonda, encantado, the Sayona, the Tunda, the Patasola, nagual, and the weeping woman. So much to draw from!
Totally agree here.
Also duendes, xadas, and cihuateteos.
If you were a pro wrestler would your entrance music be "Strutter"?
Also, any plans for a novel with a gay male main character? I bailed on the fiction because I prefer linked novels opposed to standalones, but I would certainly enjoy getting such a book.
1. According to Erik Mona, "Strutter" is already my entrance music. He sings it all the time when I walk past.
2. After Salim, the two most important characters in The Redemption Engine (my new Pathfinder Tales novel coming in April) are gay men in a committed relationship. So not POV characters (yet), but definitely important! (And of course there are some other gay male main characters like Skivver in Tim Pratt's City of the Fallen Sky.)
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What do YOU think we're still missing, and would like to see?Latin American and Spanish folklore and mythology! Alebrijes, more coatls, moai, Huay Chivo, the cucuy, Marimonda, encantado, the Sayona, the Tunda, the Patasola, nagual, and the weeping woman. So much to draw from!
I just wrote down everything you named.
Yes. It's time. :D
Will the 'secret' of the Iridian Fold (whatever that might be) be revealed here...?Cool! I was going to use an Iridian Fold duo for a Summoner idea, if I played up in Kaer Maga way, with the two of them switching off who got to wear the chain, just to extra confuse people...
On the one hand, I'm seeing something like the green Aes Sedai witches and their mystically oath-bonded warrior Warders, but that has a built in limitation of the pair having to be one spellcaster and one melee, and I also like the idea that the two could be both warriors or rogues, trained in tandem fighting, or something even more unusual, like a secretive cabal of necromancers who hide the (meticulously maintained) undead status of their 'protectors' with veils and subterfuge.
Gosh. There's so many ways this can go...
They could be psychically / spiritually linked ascetics, or some sort of aberrant hive-mind thing best not known concealing their glistening skin and dead black eyes under their veils, or a Golarionized version of the Dvati, for all I know. Fun!
I actually considered all of those tropes when deciding what they'd be, and I think they're all rad ideas. Hopefully what I eventually went with will satisfy you. :D
What do YOU think we're still missing, and would like to see?Latin American and Spanish folklore and mythology! Alebrijes, more coatls, moai, Huay Chivo, the cucuy, Marimonda, encantado, the Sayona, the Tunda, the Patasola, nagual, and the weeping woman. So much to draw from!
Also, Wes Schneider has asked that you visit his "Ask Wes Schneider Anything" thread as well, so that he can talk monsters with you (and anyone else who has suggestions of neat monsters we haven't done in Pathfinder yet).
Because Wes is our head folklore monster guy, and also an UNREPENTANT THREAD POACHER!