Ultimate WIS Monk


Rules Questions


Just checking some builds, when I bumped into the Sensei/Sacred Fist combo.
Does it mean that a Warpriest (Sacred Fist):

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Flurry of Blows (Ex)

At 1st level, a sacred fist can make a flurry of blows attack as a full-attack action. This ability works like the monk ability of the same name.

This ability replaces sacred weapon.

with a 2 level dip into Monk (Sensei):

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Insightful Strike (Ex)

At 2nd level, a sensei may use his Wisdom bonus in lieu of his Strength or Dexterity on attack rolls and combat maneuver checks with unarmed strikes or monk weapons.

This ability replaces evasion and the bonus feat gained at 2nd level.

actually grants me flurry of blows with Wisdom instead of Strength for all my attacks and damage (normal and flurry).

I just tought this was simply too much of a crazy breaking of the rules to be true... has anyone any idea about this AWESOME combo... ¿?¿?

Scarab Sages

A) this is a rules question. Im flagging for it to be moved

B) Generally its nice to quote or at least explain the features in question so we dont have to go looking for them.

That all said,

1) Sensei definately gives you wisdom to attack, as long as you use unarmed strikes or monk weapons.
2)You can flurry with the flurry of blows you gain from Sacred fist. You only lose the flurry from your monk levels
3) I have no idea how you get WIS to damage from any source, let alone that combo.


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Insightful Strike (Ex): At 2nd level, a sensei may use his Wisdom bonus in lieu of his Strength or Dexterity on attack rolls and combat maneuver checks with unarmed strikes or monk weapons. This ability replaces evasion and the bonus feat gained at 2nd level.

So, first of all, no.

Secondly, sort of.

This ability allows you to use Wisdom to attack instead of strength or dex, but it doesn't do anything for allowing dex to damage. Let me be clear, this doesn't get you wis to damage.

But otherwise, yes you're Sacred Fist levels grant you flurry that the monk archetype normally loses. You can Flurry based on your Sacred Fist level progression, and use Widsom to your attack bonus instead of strength. But you still use strength to add to your damage, not wisdom.


oh crap, right, messsed up my reading check... and also my forum posting check... so only attack... but still pretty nice

Don't know what to get... I'm torn between Weapon Finesse or the Sensei/Scred Fist combo... =S


What I do with Sensei is make a build only about Stunning Fist, with Crushing Blow against Stunning Fist-immune creatures (or any of the new Stunning Fist replacement feats from ACG).

If you wanna deal damage though, avoid this combo.

If you wanna be an utility bot, then by all means!

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