| Caradeus |
Can you use the 9th level wizard spell Wish in combat to destroy specific magic item from your opponent (if we go by the book)? I think it might not be possible, given the fact that it cannot duplicate 9th level spells (Mage's disconjuction), though it might be up to GM.
Also, could you use the Wish to simply wish your opponent was dead? (both the wizard and the opponent are 20th level characters).
Thirdly, if a character is feebleminded, has ring of three wishes, can he use any of those wishes? (Since due to feeblemind he can't really communicate coherently)
The other question is regarding 6th level spell, Cloak of Dreams.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/cloak-of-dreams
If someone is under the protection from evil spell, does that protect against the sleep effect of the Cloak of Dreams? Also, does ring of freedom of movement help against the sleep effect?
Thanks for any help provided!
Dark Immortal
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Wish clearly states what level of spells it can duplicate. None of them appear to be 9th level.
The base descriptions of what Wish can do don't cover the destruction of magical items without using an 8th level or lower spell that could perform the deed (and the item would get a save if allowed albeit the DC is based on a 9th level spell).
You can wish your opponent was dead as per the later entry in the Wish description, stating that you may wish for more powerful effects than those listed in the spells description. However, it clearly states that wishing in this manner is dangerous as you can get a literal interpretation of the wish (typically in an unfavorable way) or that you only receive the wish in part. As a GM, if you wished a level 20 player dead and you, yourself, were level 20 as well, I would give a partial wish and make him undead for the duration of the combat -if it would benefit the character more than hinder them)or convert the wizards wish into a charged spell that operates like the monks death touch or something similar but requires an attack roll to hit and a fort save against it, likely using another stat you don't have a large bonus in. So yes, you can kill the level 20 rogue in one shot with your wish, but now you have to make a melee attack (not your strong point) and they get to make a fort save, if it hits...
These are all generally unhelpful perversions of such a wish. If you want to kill someone of your own level of power with ease, you'll generally have to work harder than simply wishing for it. Many of the save or die spells only affect creatures of up to a limited amount of hp. Death is harder to produce than simply rendering an opponent utterly useless (baleful polymorph, binding, etc). Some are simple save or sucks while others require the effort of capturing or defeating the enemy and then rendering them thematically 'owned' but those options are better suited for role playing, impact, creating good memories and engaging story and honestly, are more interesting and realistic than simply wishing so and so was dead. In all likelyhood, a halfway decent GM will make your wish fail or make it copy a lower level spell that attempts the same thing but which may fail if the target has too many hp, etc.
I'd highly advise against wishing for the death of someone near your level. I'll let someone else answer the other questions.
| Kayerloth |
Here's my take on things
1) Yes, if properly worded I might allow an effect similar to Disintegrate ... complete with a saving throw for your foe/item.
2) Yes, but I'd be mighty careful with that one ... It's unlikely to simply cause them to 'to be dead' without saves etc. See Disintegrate above. If your GM wants to twist it that phrasing is wide wide open for them to do so. (Slay Living, Destruction and Disintegrate or Midnight Angel's suggestion of Finger of Death, are all very capable of causing immediate death and could be duplicated).
3) No, he must be able to speak/communicate clearly to activate the Ring.
Cloak of Dreams
- yes provided it is used by an evil creature it will block (suppress) any compulsion or mind-affecting spells. The second effect listed for Protection from Evil spell.
- I'd say no, Freedom of Movement wouldn't help vs Cloak of Dreams any more than it would vs a Sleep spell.
| Caradeus |
Thanks for the insight on the matter. Question regarding the Wish - Disintegrate combination... If the wizard uses wish to duplicate disintegrate (aimed at the item), is there a need to roll the ranged touch attack? Also, the item being wished to be destroyed gets a fortitude save or be destroyed, is this save done using the character's fort save (rogue), or the item's own fort save? (item in question is Helm of Telepathy). If it uses the item's own fort save, I assume this is 2 + ½ of caster level, rounded down, so in this case +4 bonus.
Thanks.
Diego Rossi
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Thanks for the insight on the matter. Question regarding the Wish - Disintegrate combination... If the wizard uses wish to duplicate disintegrate (aimed at the item), is there a need to roll the ranged touch attack? Also, the item being wished to be destroyed gets a fortitude save or be destroyed, is this save done using the character's fort save (rogue), or the item's own fort save? (item in question is Helm of Telepathy). If it uses the item's own fort save, I assume this is 2 + ½ of caster level, rounded down, so in this case +4 bonus.
Thanks.
A disintegrate is a 6th level spell and wish a 9th level spell that can simulate level 8- spells, I will allow the disintegrate-like effect to be a targeted spell instead of a ray, but it would still be susceptible to spell turning. It depend on your wish wording and the GM, so there will be table variations.
It will use the best save between that of the item and that of the character.