The four Dragon Barborcerer...Sorceri-Bloodrager, can it be done?


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Silver Crusade

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Can you have a single character that basically has 4 'bloodlines' or for more thematic sake, 4 dragon bloodlines and 4 different breath weapons.

Race ; Human
Bloodline 1 : Dragon, Blue : Dragon spit and Dragon prince ancestry feat
Bloodline 2 : Barbarian : Dragon Instinct, Red, Dragon rage breath
Bloodline 3 : Sorceror Dedication : Green Dragon, Advanced bloodline : Breath weapon
Bloodline 4 : Dragon Disciple Dedication : White Dragon : Dragon Disciple Breath.

The Reason why I ask if this can work is due to the wording in the first part of the
Dragon disciple Dedication ;

'You choose to study or worship one type of dragon, and your focus grants you a measure of its power. Choose one color of dragon when you select this feat; if you are a sorcerer with the draconic bloodline, this must be the same type as your bloodline'

We do not need to hold to this rule because we are technically not a sorcerer.
And then in the last part ;

'Special You can't select another dedication feat until you have gained two other feats from the dragon disciple archetype. If you later take the sorcerer archetype, you must choose the draconic bloodline.'

Due to this wording, I am assuming the restriction would only come into play if we were to take the Sorcerer dedication after we take Dragon Disciple, because we took it in this order, this rule has no effect either.

This is incredibly specific and does not come together until level 16 at the earliest.

But can it be done?


I thought I recalled some rule saying that a multiclass archetype causes you to be treated as that class, which would mean there isn't an escape to that dumb clause, but AoN actually isn't finding anything. Not being able to take a multiclass archetype as a member of that class is very flimsy implication...maybe I was thinking of 5E or 4E.

Seems like this technically works. If you start as a kobold instead of a human, you can also have an extra breath weapon.


As I understand it, of you take a class dedication (becoming trained in the class DC as a result) then you are treated as being a member of that class. So I'd say this is not possible RAW. I think I'd allow it in a home game though.

Can you clarify step 1 for me? How is the human getting an initial bloodline? Just curious.

Silver Crusade

mrspaghetti wrote:

As I understand it, of you take a class dedication (becoming trained in the class DC as a result) then you are treated as being a member of that class. So I'd say this is not possible RAW. I think I'd allow it in a home game though.

Can you clarify step 1 for me? How is the human getting an initial bloodline? Just curious.

Not a bloodline per se but the second feat gives you the dragon breath focus spell for the dragon type you select for the first feat.

Feats are ;
Dragon Spit.
Dragon Prince.


Richter Harding wrote:
mrspaghetti wrote:

As I understand it, of you take a class dedication (becoming trained in the class DC as a result) then you are treated as being a member of that class. So I'd say this is not possible RAW. I think I'd allow it in a home game though.

Can you clarify step 1 for me? How is the human getting an initial bloodline? Just curious.

Not a bloodline per se but the second feat gives you the dragon breath focus spell for the dragon type you select for the first feat.

Feats are ;
Dragon Spit.
Dragon Prince.

Ah I see it now. The character guide is organized really weirdly, IMO. All the ancestries are alphabetical except humans. Come on Paizo...

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