Gnome SLA touch attacks and Cavalier's Challenge


Rules Questions


The Gnome has access to either Produce Flame or Chill Touch via alternate racial traits, which grant melee touch attacks. The Challenge ability amplifies damage with melee attacks. Does the challenge amplify the damage on these attacks?

A few more niche questions...

1. Can you make a melee touch attack with either of these spells on a charge? If yes, does any of it get doubled on a Spirited Charge? (I assume not for Spirited Charge as the feat requires a weapon.)

2. Does the strength damage from Chill Touch get amplified on a challenge? (Assuming the challenge works with it and the save is failed.)

3. Can the ranged touch ability of Produce Flame be used in conjunction with Far Challenging as with a Luring Cavalier, the range in crease of Careful Aim?

4. Considering the ranged ability of Produce Flame treats it as a thrown weapon, can you make more than one attack in a round if your BAB is high enough?

And beyond just the Gnome SLAs, would a Spell Storing weapon used with a challenging cavalier allow any damage increases on spell damage?

Thanks very much.


My Gygax, you're really going for obscure interactions!

0) Yes, if they are melee attacks then they'll get the damage.

1) I don't believe so, although it's a bit of a gray area I think. I doubt the intent is that you could do this though.

2) No. Same reason as this.

3) Yes. Careful Aim does nothing however, as the spell has a hard limit of 120 ft. and no range increment.

4) Hmm. It would appear yes. That's interesting.

5) Only if it's a melee touch attack. However, the ability specifies spells, so SLAs should not work with it.


Thanks very much!

So a Luring Cavalier Gnome with a few fireballs a day works. Excellent!

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