Crowdforging Idea - Institutes of Higher Learning


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So what do you all think about the possibility of training at player assisted academies?

The institutes would be where you could train common skills from fellow players (Tutors) and provide benefits for those who continue patronage as well as for the company the institute belongs too. Both benefits would increase marginally for the number of loyal pupils (continuing patronage) it maintained.

I know it was already planned to have the best training available at player settlements, but what if it actually came from other players?

I see a slew of possibilities on the magic user end of this idea.

Goblin Squad Member

it could be part of some badges or something to unlock some abilities... training people in others for mastery or something. I can see the potential at higher levels!

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This just brings back my DnD memories about group magic casting. Epic spells galore. x3

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This is one of the main goals of The Empyrean Order. Besides hunting griefers and criminals ourselves, we'll also be offering training services to characters and tips for player 'training' as well, to help people defend themselves more effectively.

Unofficially, I like to sum our missions up thusly:

Player-empowerment
"Give someone a fish, and you feed them for a day.
Teach someone to fish, and you feed them for the rest of their life."

Crime-fighting
"Give someone a fire, and you keep them warm for a night.
Set someone on fire, and you keep them warm for the rest of their life."

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OmniChaos wrote:
This just brings back my DnD memories about group magic casting. Epic spells galore. x3

I've been thinking about mechanics for sort of ritual magic with groups (high end summons and things I was thinking), I think it would be an awesome feature to have a whole school/skill devoted to group magic, maybe as a sort of team minigame for a successful cast xD

But that's totally OT. Sorry. If I had millions of dollars I would totally be turning my ideas into games. haha.

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Oh do not get me started on mythal magic for settlements. Would sure be a good source of income for high level mages, every settlement would be calling them up to cast wards on their capitals and forts.

Ah I got sucked in, sorry. xD

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I was speaking in the game function sense Keovar... like an actual mechanic.

For instance, 10 wizards who have trained at your wizard academy consistently (as often as necessary) results in the wizards of your CC receiving +1 to their spellcraft skill. Those 10 wizards may not be part of your CC but they are using your facilities. After a month of consistent patronage, they might gain +1 to the PfO equivalent of knowledge arcana.

Initially, it would only be a small bonus, but if 500+ wizards are frequenting your training grounds, it could possible provide enough of an advantage to edge out the win in a battle. This in turn would give opponents facing your faction reason to attack the academy and diminish your advantage feeding into the large scale battles / siege warfare side of the game.

Those PCs that actually take part in training other PCs might complete research faster, learn a different variation of a typical enchantment, or eventually teach better than other PC's lending credit to the teacher's name. Being a protege' of Keovar would actually mean something in mechanical terms.

Of course, the more powerful of these possibilities could be easily lost or taken even. A pupil vs teacher duel for the head position within the academy would make for great drama. Academy vs academy wizardly warfare for bragging rights.

Just imagining something the equivalent of the Hosttower Arcane actually happening is exciting. And it doesn't have to be limited to spell casters. Just some thoughts.

Goblin Squad Member

You could make it a PC faction kinda. Gain rep the longer you study under said master, while the master gains prestige that would allow them to upgrade their academy or what not.

I will say that I dont think challanging the master would work sense why would you want to be the student to begin with. Not to mention these masters will likely be backed by a guild or at least in their domain so thats kinda like challanging the guild. Student rankings for jr and sr positions on the other hand I would like.

I also think the academy should be a boon to a settlement not a reason for it to get attacked sense really you cant target one without the other getting involved. So it would fall under normal war rules in that case.

Goblin Squad Member

Areks - Yes, if a mechanic like that were available, we'd make use of it. The magic & knowledge training specifically is something I would like our subguild, the Azure Astra Arcanum, to be able to provide.

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I keep imagining ritual magic as caster's means of participating in mass warfare; groups of 10 casters perform rituals to substitute as siege equipment. Or, they can operate at shielding a settlement/camp.

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Or they can gate in reinforcements, say from allied guilds in other hexes. >;3

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Zetesofos wrote:
I keep imagining ritual magic as caster's means of participating in mass warfare; groups of 10 casters perform rituals to substitute as siege equipment. Or, they can operate at shielding a settlement/camp.

Something much like that was done in the 'realm spells' and 'war magic' of Birthright, my favourite 2nd Edition setting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright_(campaign_setting)
Unfortunately, Birthright was born in the twilight of TSR, but the concept lives on, in a sense. The whole game was set up for kingdom-building, like a continent-sized version of the Kingmaker AP, and in a similar sense, PFO is an online version of Kingmaker.

Goblin Squad Member

Don't forget the institutes of Higher learning idea also fits into the Soldier line of things!

Officer training anyone?

Drill practice areas and time "teaching/leading" would probably go toward your merit badges to command larger groups.

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I would say for melee types it would fall in with the mass combat system they talked about. Leaders get special abilities while troops get bonuses. Just a thought.

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What about crafters of siege engines?

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