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The fights were awesome. Everybody who talked, though, with the exception of Ron Perlman, shoulda took some acting lessons or something.
C'mon, Idris Elba was also excellent, as he is in everything.
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The fights were awesome. Everybody who talked, though, with the exception of Ron Perlman, shoulda took some acting lessons or something.
drunken lies! The acting was superb!
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Delicious scenery.
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Kind of wet though.
Rented the DVD and watched it this past weekend.
1. Special effects were good.
2. Plot was paper thin but I expected as much from a monster vs. robot movie.
3. I enjoyed it, but the whole time I was watching it I kept thinking "Here's the new poster child for Big Dumb Action Movie".
4. In retrospect, there wasn't really anything memorable about it.
Still, passable sci-fi is better than bad sci-fi or no sci-fi.
You disappoint me, bporter.....
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I've watched it I've forgotten how many times now...and you know what it's still awesome. So there!
C'mon, Idris Elba was also excellent, as he is in everything.
I like him, I liked the movie, but the whole thing came off as hammy and over-acted. It fit the movie though I guess.
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Of course it is hammy and over acted, what would expect from a movie about giant robots vs giant monsters. It comes with the territory since it is inspired by live action and animated shows/movies about the same thing from japan. Lets face it, the whole giant robot and giant monster stuff is just going to be silly and unrealistic if you think too much about it. It is a shame people can't enjoy movies anymore without only thinking of it's flaws.
Yeah; whatever.
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From Rotten Tomatoes:
"There was a time when I would have considered Pacific Rim the greatest movie ever made. But then I turned 12. "
the War of the Gargantuas==best kaiju movie ever.
Made in 1966 before all that soulless cgi. Dudes in suits beating the crap out of eachother and smashing toy tanks. That's what it's all about.
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It's on my top 10 list of movies i want/will own and to replace if ever lost.
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I would say this: Nobody who went to see this movie could have expected ANYTHING but what they got. If they didn't like that, they probably didn't see it. Honestly, this movie brought the goods, and did it in style. If it wasn't the best movie ever made, seriously, who the f@#& cares?
It's like Starship Troopers. As one reviewer said: "I expected exploding bugs. I got exploding bugs. It was a great movie!"
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I would say this: Nobody who went to see this movie could have expected ANYTHING but what they got. If they didn't like that, they probably didn't see it. Honestly, this movie brought the goods, and did it in style. If it wasn't the best movie ever made, seriously, who the f#@~ cares?
It's like Starship Troopers. As one reviewer said: "I expected exploding bugs. I got exploding bugs. It was a great movie!"
Then you look deeper and realise Starship Troopers is the most scathing indictment of jingoistic patriotism ever.
The movie delivered exactly what it promised. Still, I ended up enjoying it significantly less than I thought I would.
Then you look deeper and realise Starship Troopers is the most scathing indictment of jingoistic patriotism ever.I would say this: Nobody who went to see this movie could have expected ANYTHING but what they got. If they didn't like that, they probably didn't see it. Honestly, this movie brought the goods, and did it in style. If it wasn't the best movie ever made, seriously, who the f#@~ cares?
It's like Starship Troopers. As one reviewer said: "I expected exploding bugs. I got exploding bugs. It was a great movie!"
Welllll... not quite. The movie followed the idea of the book, unfortunately quite seriously intended, that military service should be needed for citizenship, and while they put in a few things to criticize it ("The mobile infantry made me the man I am today"), all in all, it's a fairly uncritical adoption of the idea. Now, Bill the Galactic Hero, though, is what you're talking about.
Yeah, that bugged me too. I figured it was short-hand for “Like all of the first three series of Jaeger, Gipsy Danger was built to EMP-hardened standards, in case we had to call in a nuke-strike.” Presumably the newer models skipped EMP-hardening to save weight/install other systems that made them more badass in a straight fight.
‘Shorthand’ because screen-time is precious, especially since by all accounts del Toro was ruthless in keeping running-time down, and ‘analogue’ is a lot faster to say than all that other stuff I wrote above.
I figured it was short-hand for “Like all of the first three series of Jaeger, Gipsy Danger was built to EMP-hardened standards, in case we had to call in a nuke-strike.” Presumably the newer models skipped EMP-hardening to save weight/install other systems that made them more badass in a straight fight.
Yeah, that and IIRC, the plasma pulse cannon creates EMPs (at least big pulses seem to). All techno-babble aside, it makes sense to make your mech resistant to the side-effects of its own weapon.
I would say this: Nobody who went to see this movie could have expected ANYTHING but what they got.
I don't think anyone really expected more than what the movie delivers, but that's also why this film won't stand out to "the great".
They had the opportunity to deliver much more than what people expected; a somewhat-developed scenario; characters that are more than skin-deep; development on what happens when two people share minds, its effects and/or the lasting damage of loosing someone while drifting (I mean more than "I don't think I want to do this anymore"). I wish we had more on "chasing the white rabbit" than a plot device to have Gipsy show-up fashionably late and expose the troubled character's troubled past (which we already have guessed at that point).
But then again, I guess you can't make everyone happy...
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From Rotten Tomatoes:
"There was a time when I would have considered Pacific Rim the greatest movie ever made. But then I turned 12. "
A couple of nights before I saw the movie some friends and I sat on Rotten Tomatoes reading the bad reviews and going "Why are all these bad reviews? They're saying all the things I want to see the movie for!"
Because people are whiners who want things done their way.
...or because people know what they like in a movie and didn't find it in Pacific Rim?
But people do complain all the time regardless of what you do; I'll give you that much.
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I liked the bickering mad scientists. Everyone else can end up in a kaiju belly as far as I'm concerened. Including Stringer Bell.
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Because people are whiners who want things done their way....or because people know what they like in a movie and didn't find it in Pacific Rim?
But people do complain all the time regardless of what you do; I'll give you that much.
It was VERY clearly stated what kind of a film Pacific Rim would be. Anyone who came to the movies with different expectations didn't read the statement of the film.
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I don't know, I don't remember "Cliches, Bad Acting and Terrible Dialogue" being labelled on the tin.
It's funny you should mention that. The Stringer Bell "St. Crispin's Day" speech? I fell asleep.
Just watched it for the first time on BR and I'm still loving it. I'm getting more emotionally attached to the characters, and although the fights are less epic-looking on the small (2D) screen, they still look fantastic. I'm also noticing other details which I missed first time round, which is nice.
I also made a "Wha..?" noise when the Analogue statement was made, but yeah, it can be explained away...
Still, the dialogue!
It was VERY clearly stated what kind of a film Pacific Rim would be. Anyone who came to the movies with different expectations didn't read the statement of the film.
I actually liked the movie, but I must objectively say there were too many weak points for me to loved it. I had no expectations to match, I was barely aware of its existence and never even watched the trailers/previews. Perhaps that's why I wasn't fully satisfied? I wasn't warned about what bad part to expect?
I do believe a good move is just as good even if you didn't read the 'tin' that everyone is talking about.
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I'm just glad this thread is still going. I have bubbly in the freezer for the announcement of thr sequel.
Then you look deeper and realise Starship Troopers is the most scathing indictment of jingoistic patriotism ever.I would say this: Nobody who went to see this movie could have expected ANYTHING but what they got. If they didn't like that, they probably didn't see it. Honestly, this movie brought the goods, and did it in style. If it wasn't the best movie ever made, seriously, who the f#@~ cares?
It's like Starship Troopers. As one reviewer said: "I expected exploding bugs. I got exploding bugs. It was a great movie!"
love that movie. Loved the new cgi movie that just came out.
I only went to see the movie because it promised giant robots fighting giant monsters
It delivered. I am happy
I would say this: Nobody who went to see this movie could have expected ANYTHING but what they got. If they didn't like that, they probably didn't see it. Honestly, this movie brought the goods, and did it in style. If it wasn't the best movie ever made, seriously, who the f$%@ cares?
It's like Starship Troopers. As one reviewer said: "I expected exploding bugs. I got exploding bugs. It was a great movie!"
Starship Troopers was awesome. Pacific Rim,.....meh.
The fights were okay.
I liked the jingly shoes.
Some people criticize the movie by saying "Why didn't they just nuke the Kaiju". What they don't realize is how bad a nuclear bomb or broken nuclear reactor (Fukushima) is for the planet. If they dropped a nuke everytime a Kaiju appeared, there'd be nothing left of the planet. But meh, most people aren't that smart or can even think of simple ramifications.
The other criticism is about the sword. Some of that is valid, but I think the sword wasn't used because it was an augmentation that Raleigh didn't know about; Mako was very submissive and followed his lead most of the time, only tweaking what he did. That is, until they were desperate and out of ideas.
I think they had decent character development, but the truth is there's only so much time in the movie. The movie was already quite long. If anything I wanted to see the other robots fighting more, not more character development. That was a failing of Ironman 3, I didn't come to see Tony Stark pull a MacGyver for 2 hours, I came to see Ironman.
If I were to cut anything, I would have cut the scientists from the movie. They weren't funny and their story added more plot holes to a movie that already had a lot of plot holes. For example, the dinosaurs were Kaiju? Groan. That's just something to overlook and forget about if you want to enjoy the movie. I know I did.
I always thought he meant the kaiju wiped out the dinosaurs.
Agree about the sword it would explain why he said they were all out of weapons.
Some people criticize the movie by saying "Why didn't they just nuke the Kaiju". What they don't realize is how bad a nuclear bomb or broken nuclear reactor (Fukushima) is for the planet. If they dropped a nuke everytime a Kaiju appeared, there'd be nothing left of the planet. But meh, most people aren't that smart or can even think of simple ramifications.
By the end of the jaeger program, there must be at least a dozen (if not more) broken and most-likely leaking nuclear-powered jaegers all over the pacific anyways, so environment is already screwed...
What they should have done, since they knew from WHERE the kaiju came and WHEN they arrived, was to mine the area around the breach. None of the kaiju seemed to be immune to massive amounts of raw force, so a serious conventional detonation every so often would be quite healthy for the planet. Then again then they would not have built the jaegers.
By the end of the jaeger program, there must be at least a dozen (if not more) broken and most-likely leaking nuclear-powered jaegers all over the pacific anyways, so environment is already screwed...Some people criticize the movie by saying "Why didn't they just nuke the Kaiju". What they don't realize is how bad a nuclear bomb or broken nuclear reactor (Fukushima) is for the planet. If they dropped a nuke everytime a Kaiju appeared, there'd be nothing left of the planet. But meh, most people aren't that smart or can even think of simple ramifications.
According to the novelisation, fallen Jaegers were recovered and removed to Oblivion Bay in (the former) San Francisco, the scorched remains of the spot where Trespasser was nuked to death. They might have scavenged some of the less-contaminated ones for parts to keep the others functional, but mostly those Jaegers were left to lie as war graves/fallen heroes.
They had the opportunity to deliver much more than what people expected; a somewhat-developed scenario; characters that are more than skin-deep; development on what happens when two people share minds, its effects and/or the lasting damage of loosing someone while drifting (I mean more than "I don't think I want to do this anymore"). I wish we had more on "chasing the white rabbit" than a plot device to have Gipsy show-up fashionably late and expose the troubled character's troubled past (which we already have guessed at that point).
The problem with the film is that it had to establish quite a lot of backstory, action and plot into the one film. If the film had started with Trespasser's attack, showed the start of the Jaegar programme and ended with the first victory, they could have explored all of that in more detail but the film would have been a lot more boring.
Starting where they did, with a relatively constrained budget ($190 million is a lot, but not for a film of this magnitude), and with Del Toro wanting both a fast-moving movie and one that came in at less than 2 hours (which they only barely scraped), an awful lot of that kind of stuff had to be left out.
The only thing that bothered me was Gipsy's analog. What the hell.
What broke the camel's back, for me, was using the supertanker as a sword. That was just dumb. Then the Gipsy thing happened.
‘Shorthand’ because screen-time is precious, especially since by all accounts del Toro was ruthless in keeping running-time down, and ‘analogue’ is a lot faster to say than all that other stuff I wrote above.
'Analogue' is definitely shorter, but so is 'EMP shielding'. We don't need a technical specification on 'EMP Shielding' either, but it seems instinctively more plausible than going "oh that giant robot full of electronic equipment? Lucky for us, it doesn't use electricity at all."
Anyway. I think nitpicking at the scientific details is probably missing the point. What "broke" the movie, for for me, was really the intro sequence where they give you the backstory on the Kaiju and some brief looks into how this has affected society. I sat there thinking "that's the movie I want to see."
I saw Thor: Dark World yesterday and I thought it was a much better F/SF Movie with Stringer Bell.
"Doodlebug," you're asking to yourself, "Are you high?"
Well, yes, I am, and I was. I smoked a big long bowlful in the parking lot, but it was over long before they released the nudity-prone Stellan Skargaard from jail, as opposed to Pacific Rim which I watched in the comfort of my own home, with the pipe ever-packed.
It's also true that just the thought of Kat Dennings gives me goblin-sized erections, so she totally put the slap down on that dude from It's Always Sunny in the "movie scientist" department, even though I thought they were one of the better parts of PR.
Using the tanker was a crowning moment of awesome to me. Especially when i read up about tankers and that yes, it would take the punishment without breaking in half. It's made that tough.
A case could be made that it would be a teensy bit too heavy to handle that way... no matter the power used, really... but hey, it's still awesome. And I like the thought of you fact-checking +"using tankers as melee weapons" on wikipedia. =)