MONDREYES |
Hello,
This is first post. I hope this is right place.
I have a wizard who is looking to use beast shape II, Beast Shape III and polymorph for combat.
The best I have combat oriented is Dire Tiger.
I am also coming up on 11th level, so beast shape IV would also be helpful.
Thanks in advance.
=Mondreyes
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MechE_ |
I'm not clear what kind of a response you're looking for here since you didn't ask a question. Obviously, the Dire Tiger is a good call since you gain the ability to pounce and have good mobility from speed. I question though if this is the best way for a wizard to utilize their spells. Keep in mind that while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell you will not be able to cast any other spells since you can't speak, can't emulate the somatic components (hand gestures) and cannot access your spell components (they melded into your new form). Now, you can willing dismiss this spell (since the duration has a "(D)" on the end of it) by spending a standard action, if you find yourself needing to use a different spell...
Duration 1 min./level (D)
I guess a good question to ask is why do you feel this is something your wizard will be doing? Do you want to do it for flavor or is it necessary for your group to have someone else on the front lines? If one of these are the reasons, then go for it. It's just that generally Druids make much better polymorphers than wizards and wizards have a fairly superior spell list, so it just seems like a suboptimal choice.
Just my $0.02.
Also, welcome to the forums.
NeoSeraphi |
Absolutely! What's your preference? Do you like to grab? Poison? Trip?
Personally, I think Trip is a strong use for the polymorph spells, even though you don't get a +4 bonus to the maneuver like you would if you were grabbing.
The Dire Wolf form gives you a +1 size bonus to your CMB, and has a single bite that deals 1d8+1.5x Str and trips. This is a good form for you to use to back your primary frontliner up. You control, and he delivers the damaging blows.
If you want to grab, the dire tiger isn't for you. No, if you want to grab, you'll want a creature that has the Constrict special attack. Unfortunately, one of the strongest animal constrictors in the game (the giant anaconda) is a Gargantuan creature, so you can't even transform into one with the beast shape IV spell. However, the regular anaconda form (an advanced giant constrictor found here) has a single bite attack that deals 1d8+1.5x its Strength modifier and the grab special attack, giving you a total of +5 to your CMB on grapple checks (in addition to the Str bonus you get from the spell).
The anaconda also has the constrict attack, which means that you deal twice as much damage on a successful grapple check made to continue grappling (you deal damage for the bite, and then damage for the constrict, each equal to 1d8+1.5x Str, for a total of 2d8+3x Str each turn).
For poison, the Emperor Cobra is my preference, with a bite attack that deals 2d6+1.5x your Str and poison that deals 1d3 Con every round for 6 rounds and requires 2 consecutive saves to cure.
Mathwei ap Niall |
Absolutely! What's your preference? Do you like to grab? Poison? Trip?
Personally, I think Trip is a strong use for the polymorph spells, even though you don't get a +4 bonus to the maneuver like you would if you were grabbing.
The Dire Wolf form gives you a +1 size bonus to your CMB, and has a single bite that deals 1d8+1.5x Str and trips. This is a good form for you to use to back your primary frontliner up. You control, and he delivers the damaging blows.
If you want to grab, the dire tiger isn't for you. No, if you want to grab, you'll want a creature that has the Constrict special attack. Unfortunately, one of the strongest animal constrictors in the game (the giant anaconda) is a Gargantuan creature, so you can't even transform into one with the beast shape IV spell. However, the regular anaconda form (an advanced giant constrictor found here) has a single bite attack that deals 1d8+1.5x its Strength modifier and the grab special attack, giving you a total of +5 to your CMB on grapple checks (in addition to the Str bonus you get from the spell).
The anaconda also has the constrict attack, which means that you deal twice as much damage on a successful grapple check made to continue grappling (you deal damage for the bite, and then damage for the constrict, each equal to 1d8+1.5x Str, for a total of 2d8+3x Str each turn).
For poison, the Emperor Cobra is my preference, with a bite attack that deals 2d6+1.5x your Str and poison that deals 1d3 Con every round for 6 rounds and requires 2 consecutive saves to cure.
You do know that the anaconda is an illegal form for the beast shape spells right?
Polymorph spells cannot be used to assume the form of a creature with a template or an advanced version of a creature.
For the OP I do hope you are being careful with this setup. Since you are still restricted to your normal BaB and HP's, at this level of play 1 decent hit from any melee critter will probably kill you instantly.
Especially since most of your defensive gear & abilities stop working in these forms.666bender |
Absolutely! What's your preference? Do you like to grab? Poison? Trip?
Personally, I think Trip is a strong use for the polymorph spells, even though you don't get a +4 bonus to the maneuver like you would if you were grabbing.
The Dire Wolf form gives you a +1 size bonus to your CMB, and has a single bite that deals 1d8+1.5x Str and trips. This is a good form for you to use to back your primary frontliner up. You control, and he delivers the damaging blows.
If you want to grab, the dire tiger isn't for you. No, if you want to grab, you'll want a creature that has the Constrict special attack. Unfortunately, one of the strongest animal constrictors in the game (the giant anaconda) is a Gargantuan creature, so you can't even transform into one with the beast shape IV spell. However, the regular anaconda form (an advanced giant constrictor found here) has a single bite attack that deals 1d8+1.5x its Strength modifier and the grab special attack, giving you a total of +5 to your CMB on grapple checks (in addition to the Str bonus you get from the spell).
The anaconda also has the constrict attack, which means that you deal twice as much damage on a successful grapple check made to continue grappling (you deal damage for the bite, and then damage for the constrict, each equal to 1d8+1.5x Str, for a total of 2d8+3x Str each turn).
For poison, the Emperor Cobra is my preference, with a bite attack that deals 2d6+1.5x your Str and poison that deals 1d3 Con every round for 6 rounds and requires 2 consecutive saves to cure.
neo : you got a mistake ...
when turning to anakonda - you dont gain the feats, hence the bite is only 1d6 (and also the constrict) and not 1d8... but its a cool form indeed.EntrerisShadow |
About the best I have found is the Catoblepas. It gets a decent bite and gore attack, as well as a poisonous breath weapon. Otherwise, though . . . well there just are not that many "Large" Magical Beasts out there. They seem to jump from Tiny to Huge with far less variation.
Edit: D'oh! I completely forgot the Chimera! Bah. Catoblepas if you'd like a swim speed, Chimera if you wanna fly.
Highglander |
"Sorry, what is OP?"
OP means Original Poster, the creator of the Thread. In this one that would be you.
On topic when you polymorph you should know what you expect of the form you'll assume.
You also have to know which book you can choose from. For exemple, catoblepas is from bestiary2, I for one can't use that form.
Also 11th level, you can use form of the dragon, wich is far superior to beast shape since you can still cast spells (provided you have the component).