Breakdance Robot Build

[blackbloodtroll]

So, I have a PC concept, but need some help to put it together.

Here is the breakdown:
Race: Android, Class: Dervish Dancer, 20 point buy, and dumping Int and Wis are actually key to the concept.

For those without the Inner Sea Bestiary, Android stats are:

Android:

ANDROID CHARACTERS
Androids are defined by their class levels—they do not have racial Hit Dice. All androids have the following racial traits.
+2 Dexterity, +2 Intelligence, –2 Charisma: Androids have swift ref lexes and are very intelligent, but have difficulty relating to others.
Exceptional Senses: Androids have darkvision to a range of 60 feet and low-light vision. They also gain a +2 racial bonus on Perception checks.
Constructed (Ex) For the purposes of effects targeting creatures by type (such as a ranger’s favored enemy and bane weapons), androids count as both humanoids and constructs. Androids gain a +4 racial bonus on all saving throws against mind-affecting effects, paralysis, poison, and stun effects, are not subject to fatigue or exhaustion, and are immune to disease and sleep effects. Androids can never gain morale bonuses, and are immune to fear effects and all emotion-based effects.
Emotionless (Ex) Androids have problems processing emotions properly, and thus take a –4 penalty on Sense Motive checks.
Nanite Surge (Ex) An android’s body is infused with nanites. Once per day as an immediate action, an android can cause her nanites to surge, granting a bonus equal to 3 + the android’s character level on any one d20 roll; this ability must be activated before the roll is made. When an android uses this power, her circuitry-tattoos glow with light equivalent to that of a torch in illumination for 1 round.
Languages: Androids begin play speaking Common. Androids with high Intelligence can choose any languages they want (except secret languages, such as Druidic).

Any advice?

[Lobolusk]

**Golf Clap** I read your book you magnificent Btatrd!

[blackbloodtroll]

Lobolusk wrote:

**Golf Clap** I read your book you magnificent Btatrd!

Patton?

[Kazaan]

Throw in the Janni combat style.

[blackbloodtroll]

Kazaan wrote:

Throw in the Janni combat style.

I figured the Dervish Dance feat was a key.

[blackbloodtroll]

Perhaps the Dawnflower Dervish archetype will work better?

[Lamontius]

Great, now I have Darude's "Sandstorm" stuck in my head.

[blackbloodtroll]

Oh, and I realize things like Inspire Courage, and Inspire Heroics will not effect the Android.

[blackbloodtroll]

Is there a Bard archetype that is better suited?

[Choon]

Wait... There's an android race in the inner sea bestiary?! When did this happen and why haven't I seen it!

On topic: I'd go for the feat route dervish dancer and try to eliminate as many features that won't effect you as possible through archetypes.

[blackbloodtroll]

Choon wrote:

Wait... There's an android race in the inner sea bestiary?! When did this happen and why haven't I seen it!

On topic: I'd go for the feat route dervish dancer and try to eliminate as many features that won't effect you as possible through archetypes.

Yeah, I put the stats in a spoiler in the OP.

Not sure exactly which archetype combo will weed out the Morale bonuses.

[AndIMustMask]

race seems great for a magus build.

they get any unique class stuff?

[catmandrake]

I'd recommend Monkey Style to represent your awesome ground moves like windmills and flares (take no penalties while prone, no AoOs while standing up or crawling, and stand up with a swift action with a successful DC20 Acrobatics check). Unfortunately, you said you're dumping Wis so you won't meet the prerequisites. You could take a level of Master of Many Styles Monk to take it as a bonus feat and ignore the prereqs.

[Lobolusk]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Lobolusk wrote:

**Golf Clap** I read your book you magnificent Btatrd!

Patton?

Bill MacNeil--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZAMiLAdqsM

around 19:20

[blackbloodtroll]

Yes, the dumping of wisdom and intelligence is not a "min-max" choice, but key to the concept.

Bard is key, as perform is key to to the concept, and should permeate the build.

I know there are stronger classes for this race, but none are so perform focused, as the Bard.

[Choon]

Archaeologist gets rid of most of the morale stuff, but kinda kills the concept too. :(

[blackbloodtroll]

What archetypes stack with Dervish Dancer?

[Kazaan]

Then I guess go Dervish Dancer (Bard), and take a 1 level dip into Unarmed Fighter for a style (monkey or janni) then 2 level dip into MoMS for Monkey/Janni fusion. Your pick as to whether you want to skip to Monkey Shine or Janni Rush. At lvl 5 you'll have:

Dervish Dancer 2/Unarmed Fighter 1/MoMS 2
- 1d6 improved unarmed strike (backup weapon if you're ever disarmed or need bludgeoning damage)
- Acrobatic Check/20 to stand with no provoke, no penalty to AC/Attack while prone (monkey)
- lower penalty to AC on charge and less bonus for enemies flanking you (janni)
- a) Able to get very up-close-and-personal on successful stunning fist and get bonus to dodge/attack when occupying opponent's space (monkey shine)
-or-
- b) Able to double unarmed damage dice on a charge and always jump with running start (janni rush)
- BaB 3
- +5/+6/+6 F/R/W saves
- Hit Dice: 8 + 3d8 + 1d10 = average 27 base HP (before Con, favored, other factors)
- Dex to Attack with Weapon Finesse (lvl 1 feat)
- Add Perform(Dance) bonus in place of Acrobatics bonus to Acrobatic checks (You don't need to train Acrobatics, you can train Perform(Dance) instead)
- +10 land speed while dancing (you won't get bonus from courage dance but you'll still get Fleet bonus)

After that, you can put a couple more levels into MoMS to get Slow Fall, ki pool, another +10 move speed, +1 AC, and increase your unarmed dice to 1d8 then put the rest of your levels into DD. Eventually, you'll qualify for the Dervish Dance feat, though you can wield a Kukri early on to take advantage of weapon finesse then upgrade to a Scimitar later. You only really need to focus on Dex and Cha; your AC will be pretty high so you won't need so much HP and you probably won't be power attacking so you can leave Str at 10 or 11 to cover carrying capacity.

[blackbloodtroll]

Unfortunately, the Monk levels do not mesh well with the dumped wisdom.

If curious, the initial concept is very loosely based off of Drossel von Flügel, from Fireball.

See a quick vid here.

[blackbloodtroll]

For the fighting style, I refer you to Zoolander, and the famous Breakdance fighting scene for partial inspiration.

[Azaelas Fayth]

Dot.

BTW: The quote was originally by Patton. He was referring to Infantry Attacks by Rommel.

[blackbloodtroll]

Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Dot.

BTW: The quote was originally by Patton. He was referring to Infantry Attacks by Rommel.

That's exactly what I was saying!

[Azaelas Fayth]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Dot.

BTW: The quote was originally by Patton. He was referring to Infantry Attacks by Rommel.

That's exactly what I was saying!

I know right!

Also I love the thoughts behind this build...

[blackbloodtroll]

So, Dawnflower Dervish, or Dervish Dancer?

Additional archetype on top of one of those?

Really having a hard time getting over that first bump.

[blackbloodtroll]

I think Lotus Geisha is the only archetype that stacks with Dervish Dancer.

Obviously, a dex build is in order.

Also, I am willing to be a bit flexible on the Int dump, but really need to dump Wis for the concept to work.

[Azaelas Fayth]

Dawnflower Dervish might be the better option...

[Lamontius]

Man, this reminds me of "The Windup Girl" by Paolo Bacigalupi.

[blackbloodtroll]

Azaelas Fayth wrote:

Dawnflower Dervish might be the better option...

Oh, please tell me the details.

I have never built a Bard PC before.

[blackbloodtroll]

Now, outside of dumping wisdom, how should I place my stats?

[Azaelas Fayth]

I though Dawnflower Dervish was a Fighter Archetype?

[blackbloodtroll]

There is the Dawnflower Dervish Fighter archetype, and the Dawnflower Dervish Bard archetype.

Weird huh?

[Azaelas Fayth]

Honestly, Either one would be nice to use...

Though I would Prefer the Fighter Archetype.

NOTE: I am biased towards the Sword part of Sword & Sorcery.

Honestly, a TWF Mobile Fighter using Twin Scimitars would be Awesome...

[blackbloodtroll]

Well, the goal is Bard, and maybe some multiclassing.

I suppose I could go Dawnflower Dervish/Dawnflower Dervish.

[Azaelas Fayth]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Well, the goal is Bard, and maybe some multiclassing.

I suppose I could go Dawnflower Dervish/Dawnflower Dervish.

Ok then:

Maximize DEX & CHA. The CON & INT.

[blackbloodtroll]

Why Int?

What kind of array?

[blackbloodtroll]

What about:

Strength 10

Dexterity 15(17)

Constitution 12

Intelligence 8(10)

Wisdom 7

Charisma 18(16)

Then, first level feat Weapon Finesse(if Dervish Dancer), or Arcane Strike(if Dawnflower Dervish).

[Azaelas Fayth]

I am meaning don't dump into to the Depths of Hades. Mostly it is for the Skill Points in Performs and such.

I might go with (before Racial Adjustments):

STR: 13
DEX: 15
CON: 15
INT: 10
WIS: 07
CHA: 15

or

STR: 12
DEX: 16
CON: 15
INT: 08
WIS: 07
CHA: 15

EDIT: Yours is probably better...

[blackbloodtroll]

I did consider going the unarmed path.

Should I just go for the Dervish Dance(feat) path?

[Azaelas Fayth]

Dervish Dance Feat will be wonderful for this.

[blackbloodtroll]

Okay, Dawnflower Dervish would give me a free feat, but Dervish Dancer gives me the Rain of Blows ability.

I think Dervish Dancer is better for this.

Should I dip in another class?

If so, which one?

[Azaelas Fayth]

Dervish Dancer?

and a dip shouldn't be done from what I can see.

[blackbloodtroll]

Dervish Dancer is a Bard archetype.

[Azaelas Fayth]

Dervish Dancer is the better archetype.

[blackbloodtroll]

Then Weapon Finesse is the choice first level feat.

Dervish Dance feat at third.

Arcane Strike at fifth, but not sure after that.

[Azaelas Fayth]

I weep for your enemies...

[blackbloodtroll]

Azaelas Fayth wrote:

I weep for your enemies...

....because they got served?

[Azaelas Fayth]

They will meet a literal War Blender. Even more so if you were TWF.

[blackbloodtroll]

Shelyn seems the choice Deity choice.

What feats do you suggest past 5th?

[Azaelas Fayth]

Power Attack?

[blackbloodtroll]

That requires 13 strength, or two levels in Ranger.