Heavy armor prof without feat or class

[Joanna Swiftblade]

Okay, I'm trying to get heavy armor prof on a level 3 inquisitor without spending a feat, or dipping into fighter. I know there are ways of getting weapon proficiency like your deities favored weapon, or racial features, or traits, but what about armor?

The method used must be by-the-rules. No home brew, asking favors of the GM, etc.

If it's not possible then I'll learn to cope, but I have a feeling that someone out there has figured out the solution to my problem already if there is one.

Thanks!

[Elamdri]

There is no trait that will do it. If there was, there would be no need for the Heavy Armor Feat.

[Joanna Swiftblade]

I didn't expect so, but the same could kind-of be said about heirloom weapon and exotic/martial prof.

[asthyril]

no i do not believe it is possible, but going 1 level into armored hulk barbarian will get you heavy armor + rage, not a bad deal.

[Blue Star]

If you can figure out how to get past all of the armor check penalty, then it's not a problem. The problem is that I can only think of a way to get the ACP reduced by 5 (-3 mithril, -1 armor expert, -1 Serpent Runner) and that's not quite enough.

[Caderyn]

The choices for proficiencies are

1. Race (none have armor proficiencies, so kind of a deadend here)
2. Class (Archtypes might have it, such as the crusader archtype of clerics or armored hulk barbarians, however there are no inquisitor archtypes that provide Heavy armor proficiency)
3. Feat (which you said you didnt want)
4. Traits (like races only apply to weapons and not armor proficiencies)
5. Prestige Classes (such as Holy Vindicator, provide heavy armor proficiency).

[asthyril]

full plate (-6) made from mithral (-3) enchanted with comfort armor ability (-2), armor expert trait(-1), serpent runner trait for full plate(0!)

viola, heavy armor anyone can use with no penalty. but that doesnt give proficiency.

[Joanna Swiftblade]

Yeah, this is a dead-end. Thanks for trying thought. I'm just going to man up and drop the feat for the prof, and then hope I can find a lot of mithral to make a new set of full plate by the time I hit level 11 so I can keep Stalwart.

[Caderyn]

hmm problem being thats 15,550 GP and 2 traits (which effectively is a feat) to have a +9 bonus to AC meaning its more effective just to take the heavy armor proficiency feat.

[DigMarx]

It would be a cold day in the Abyss (unless it was one of those cold layers; then it'd be hot) before I (as a DM) let someone without armor proficiency take the armor expert trait! :)