Can I memorize a 5th level spell in a 6th level spell slot?
Yes.
Yes, ans as Ssalarn says it is still treated as a the spells actual level, not the level slot you are preparing it in. Though if you know Heightened Spell, you might as well apply it.
Yeah, this. If you're playing a druid with a 12 Wis, every spellslot higher than 2 becomes free meta-magic feat territory. If, for instance, you're Dm-ing when 3E first came out, you might accidentally severely limit the number of spells people can prepare at your table. ( No, I'm not speaking from experience, I don't know why you'd ask that.)
Hellz ye-uh. Useful when ability damage happens.
Yes, ans as Ssalarn says it is still treated as a the spells actual level, not the level slot you are preparing it in. Though if you know Heightened Spell, you might as well apply it.Yeah, this. If you're playing a druid with a 12 Wis, every spellslot higher than 2 becomes free meta-magic feat territory. If, for instance, you're Dm-ing when 3E first came out, you might accidentally severely limit the number of spells people can prepare at your table. ( No, I'm not speaking from experience, I don't know why you'd ask that.)
Not sure about other metamagic feats but:
"Benefit: A heightened spell has a higher spell level than normal (up to a maximum of 9th level). Unlike other metamagic feats, Heighten Spell actually increases the effective level of the spell that it modifies. All effects dependent on spell level (such as saving throw DCs and ability to penetrate a lesser globe of invulnerability) are calculated according to the heightened level.
Level Increase: The heightened spell is as difficult to prepare and cast as a spell of its effective level"
That last bit suggests that you'd still need the required attribute.
Yes, ans as Ssalarn says it is still treated as a the spells actual level, not the level slot you are preparing it in. Though if you know Heightened Spell, you might as well apply it.Yeah, this. If you're playing a druid with a 12 Wis, every spellslot higher than 2 becomes free meta-magic feat territory. If, for instance, you're Dm-ing when 3E first came out, you might accidentally severely limit the number of spells people can prepare at your table. ( No, I'm not speaking from experience, I don't know why you'd ask that.)Not sure about other metamagic feats but:
"Benefit: A heightened spell has a higher spell level than normal (up to a maximum of 9th level). Unlike other metamagic feats, Heighten Spell actually increases the effective level of the spell that it modifies. All effects dependent on spell level (such as saving throw DCs and ability to penetrate a lesser globe of invulnerability) are calculated according to the heightened level.
Level Increase: The heightened spell is as difficult to prepare and cast as a spell of its effective level"
That last bit suggests that you'd still need the required attribute.
I think you're right on that one, Sloppy. I was just talking about a certain incident many moons ago, where I mis-educated a player and he retired the character early, through no fault of his own. He did, however, take me to task for it later; still haven't lived that one down around the table. :)
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Well, you realise that now we want more details of course :)
Well, you realise that now we want more details of course :)
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Hellz ye-uh. Useful when ability damage happens.
just wanted to point out ability damage (or ability penalties) don't do this, only ability drain does.
Ah. Didn't know that.
Well, you realise that now we want more details of course :)
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Level Increase: The heightened spell is as difficult to prepare and cast as a spell of its effective level"
That last bit suggests that you'd still need the required attribute.
Absolutely true! But if you happen to have a high enough ability score, go or it! I can see several reasons to do this even though you might know and may cast those higher level spells. Maybe you have a signature spell you want to be that much better, or just don't like/need any of those higher spell level spells that day.