So when is Paizo going to put all the spells together in one hardcover edition?..inquiring minds would like to know!
I'd find that useful.
Ultimate Spells?
I'd find it useful too, until the next book got released. The biggest problem with physical books in a game like Pathfinder is that they're out-of-date so quick.
'Course, I didn't complain about Ultimate Equipment - and I paid for it too - so clearly I don't feel that strongly about it.
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While a book like that would be very nice. I've found using the Spells tab at d20pfsrd.com very handy. I also use Kyle Olson's combat manager which has a searchable spells tab as well.
Would I buy a book that had all the spells in one place, maybe even separated by class? I might, but it wouldn't be high on my list of priority purchases.
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I posted about this before. How about a pdf only spell book so to speak. Listing all spells from all paizo products. That way they could update it with new spells as they come out. We as players/GMs could then print an updated copy or just view the pdf as needed. Where I play we don't have internet or wifi so the SRD isn't available. And I really would rather have a print copy. Having all those electronic gadgets kinda get in the way and seem to actually slow things down.
So Paizo an ultimate Spell PDF would be awesome. Heck I would even pay an update fee for the new updates. Besides anymore books and I've got to buy a dolly to take my gaming stuff to our venue. Almost there already..
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I think that third party compilations especially apps for IOS and Android will do the ticket for me. Like the man said above, any such physical book will be outdated by the next spell supplement that comes out.
I was about to suggest the Pathfinder Spellbook (by Shaking Earth), I have it on my Android phone and it is pretty good as you can also create your own spell lists (e.g. all the Spells your Sorcerer knows). I am not sure its fully up to date with all the OGC spells but it says it has Ultimate Combat spells in there as of v2.9.
I would really like this. And while yes it would be out of date fast, it wouldnt be woefully out of date for quite some time. Remember paizo has essentially declared themselves done for big option books AL APG UM and UC. There wont be a huge influx of generic spells from paizo. Anything from here on out is going to be part of some specific theme IE mythic spells, or something from the campaign setting. The generic spells that paizo are going to put out are already out.
I would REALLY love something like this, mostly because looking up spells is probably the primary source of wear and tear on my core books. I would be really happy to buy a likely smaller book made specifically for the purpose, then have my core book constantly flipped through during games for spells.
Considering hardly anyone in my group consistently plays casters, I would still find this quite useful. However it would absolutely have to be complete, that means every spell from Core, AP, UM, and maybe a few new ones to round out any gaps spotted along the way. Along with this I would love to see a complete feat book.
Considering hardly anyone in my group consistently plays casters, I would still find this quite useful. However it would absolutely have to be complete, that means every spell from Core, AP, UM, and maybe a few new ones to round out any gaps spotted along the way. Along with this I would love to see a complete feat book.
Seconded. But could all of the traits, feats, and spells that have come from all Paizo products be included in these books?
Ultimate Equipment is meant to be then be-all, end-all home for all Pathfinder items, and in that book they added a large amount of new content. To see an "Ultimate Spells" book serve the same purpose would make sense and would be very nice to have.
I don't want to see one come out because I'd buy it!
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A while back, someone put all the CRB, APG, UM, and UC spells in one handy pdf package. We printed it out, and have been using it as a Spell Compendium ever since. I'm not sure if I'd ever want an actual hardcover though, one of the reasons the 3.5 Spell Compendium worked is that it came out near the end of 3.5's lifespan - WotC were pretty much done making new spells.
If it was just existing spells no, since it would end up out of date in a hurry as more Pathfinder books come out. If it was a book with a lot of new spells, especially spells unique to each class etc then yes.
This.
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I would really dig a book like this. Additionally, I'd love to see a spell creation system included.
I'ld like it too, that and Ultimate Feats too; would surely buy both <wallet crying in the far distance>
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If 75% of the spells are new and new cantrips are included, count me in. What I'd love to see is a slew of non-combat spells .
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Just google up Perram's Spellbook and enjoy. A print compendium would be worthless after a few new spells hit, while a web based service like Perram's is always viable.
Plus Perram supports the community via Know Direction podcast, and is a great guy.
A web service will usually be more up-to-date than a print version. A print version isnt worthless though - it's useful to those of us who dont play with a computer at the table.
I'm fine with customizable indexes of spells and spell list in the PRD, but a book that prunes spells from all the Campaign Setting/Player Companion books would be neat-o some time down the line.
Agreed, it'd be rather convenient to have less books to carry around just for spells.
If it was just existing spells no, since it would end up out of date in a hurry as more Pathfinder books come out.
If it was a book with a lot of new spells, especially spells unique to each class etc then yes.
Why can't it have both? It would make it far less a chore for my DM, who can't even take all the books he has with him to the upcoming Kingmaker games. He has the Inner Sea World Guide, the Advanced Player Guide, the Ultimate Combat and Ultimate Magic books as well as Adventurer's Armory, and he'd have to drag all of those quite a distance to my friend's house.
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So when is Paizo going to put all the spells together in one hardcover edition?..inquiring minds would like to know!
If they promise to never make another spell again I would be keen. But if it was Spell Compendium Vol 1 of many then I can't see the point. A 3.5e rules and spell compendium makes sense, I don't see that it would be that useful given the PF PRD and PF still being very active in publishing.
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Like I said before, just a PDF. They keep it updated. We buy it once and pay a small fee for the updates. No need for a printed book. It could be in a book format so we could print it.
That would be awesome. I don't want another book to lug anyway. Already carrying 100 lbs around it seems. Going to to have to buy a cart to get my stuff to an up coming CON.
Who knew plastics minis could get heavy this quick.
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Why can't it have both? It would make it far less a chore for my DM, who can't even take all the books he has with him to the upcoming Kingmaker games. He has the Inner Sea World Guide, the Advanced Player Guide, the Ultimate Combat and Ultimate Magic books as well as Adventurer's Armory, and he'd have to drag all of those quite a distance to my friend's house.If it was just existing spells no, since it would end up out of date in a hurry as more Pathfinder books come out.
If it was a book with a lot of new spells, especially spells unique to each class etc then yes.
It can have both, but with in a year or sooner it would be out of date and not have all the spells anyways. Which is why i said i would have zero interest in one that was only a reprint of old spells. If there was at least as many new spells as old, especially if they was class unique then I would love to have it.
As it stands now I can use Perram's Spellbook already mentioned in this thread or just copy and paste from the PRD or d20pfsrd the spells I need for a game session which is what I currently do.
If it was just existing spells no, since it would end up out of date in a hurry as more Pathfinder books come out. If it was a book with a lot of new spells, especially spells unique to each class etc then yes.
This is why I would nto want a book, but would rather have a PDF. That way it can be updated as needed rather then reprinted again and again just to capture the new spells from future adventure paths etc.
Paizo's PRD has a spell index. It also indexes them by class spell list. At least for digital purposes it's all you need.
If you wanted stuff from campaign materials as well, I imagine d20pfsrd's index has them all.
I'm all for this. Sure, it would be "out of date" relatively soon, but think of what it would replace if it covered all material to date:
We have 62 Adventure Paths, 50 Chronicles/Campaign settings, 26 Companions/Player Companions, 35+ modules, 10+ rulebooks, plus who knows what else I've missed.
That's an awful lot of places to look for spells. Sure, the PRD spell index is useful and the d20pfsrd spell DB is great ... if you're on the 'net or want to use a spreadsheet, but a good old rulebook would be even better. So what if it gets out of date? It still removes the need to cross-reference something approaching 200 existing publications.
I'm not saying it should have x% new content, but I'm saying it should contain all of the spells from the old content that the Paizo developers don't want to retire :)
I would buy a book like the old 3.5 Spell Compendium for Pathfinder, absolutely.Well, if you are one of those people who do actually feel PF is backwards compatible then you might be interested to know that WotC are apparently going to reprint the 3.5 Spell Compendium.
They plan to reprint it, too?
What else are they going to reprint now?
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I would buy a book like the old 3.5 Spell Compendium for Pathfinder, absolutely.Well, if you are one of those people who do actually feel PF is backwards compatible then you might be interested to know that WotC are apparently going to reprint the 3.5 Spell Compendium.They plan to reprint it, too?
What else are they going to reprint now?
Apparently so, listings are appearing on Amazon, and WotC did a survey about what else to reprint quite some time ago.
Well, if you are one of those people who do actually feel PF is backwards compatible...
One of those people? A realist?
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I would buy a book like the old 3.5 Spell Compendium for Pathfinder, absolutely.Well, if you are one of those people who do actually feel PF is backwards compatible then you might be interested to know that WotC are apparently going to reprint the 3.5 Spell Compendium.They plan to reprint it, too?
What else are they going to reprint now?
They're actually re-releasing all of their prior material in digital format by the end of next year and re-releasing most of their core books from prior editions in print in limited release waves.
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They're not reprinting anything.
Are you certain of that? Amazon is listing a Premium Spell Compendium here and early listings of premium 3.5 core books proved correct.
Also, as I stated before WotC specifically created a survey asking what 3rd edition material people would like to see reprinted - and while that is no guarantee that it will happen, if the 3.5 core book reprints do well then I can see selected reprints.
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Well, if you are one of those people who do actually feel PF is backwards compatible...One of those people? A realist?
Not everyone feels PF is backwards compatible enough to make them happy to use a 3.5 book in place of an equivalent PF conversion, especially when it comes to mechanics, feats and spells that players will use (NPCs and adventures are more compatible because the NPCs etc are only on stage for a few encounters, so anything too unbalanced isn't a big deal).
The fact that there is a whole sub-forum for conversions shows that some people feel that some 3.5 material cannot just be used as is with PF (e.g. Eberron Artificer class, teh 3.5 Warlock etc). Equally Pathfinder got its own Freeport Companion - for those who wouldn't want to just buy the 3.5 d20 Freeport Companion and use it with Pathfinder.
And in the case of the Spell Compendium itself - Paizo I believe made efforts to avoid too many Save or Die / Save or Suck spells and so some people may therefore feel that the 3.5 Spell Compendium isn't compatible with the PF design approach.
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If it was just existing spells no, since it would end up out of date in a hurry as more Pathfinder books come out. If it was a book with a lot of new spells, especially spells unique to each class etc then yes.To stress this even more; NO MORE WIZARD & CLERIC ONLY SPELLS. The other casters get hosed by the hordes of spells that get created and simply slapped with Wiz/Sorc X, as opposed to Wiz/Sorc X, Witch Y, Summoner. For example, consider Murderous Command - what a perfectly in flavor spell for a Witch... To bad they made it Antipaladin 1 Cleric/Oracle 1 only...
Honestly I wish there where more Cleric only spells. Between Druid, Bard, Inquisitor, Witch, Sorcerer, and a few other odd classes like Monk, I do not think there are any Cleric only spells in the game. That and I think Wizard has encroached a lot too far into the Divine, in my opinion.
@Beckett,
You might try looking at Noble Knight Games website for a book called Renegade Cleric's Tome. There is a companion book the Renegade Wizard's Spellbook. Both are similar to the Spell Compendium except they are very specialized and about the same size.
They were published by Mongoose for 3.5. The Renegade Cleric's Tome is 256 total pages of strictly divine spells. There are 9 pages of the Cleric's spell lists. There are spells for Blackguard, Paladin, Druid, and Ranger included, but the bulk are for Cleric's.
I would really like this. And while yes it would be out of date fast, it wouldnt be woefully out of date for quite some time. Remember paizo has essentially declared themselves done for big option books AL APG UM and UC. There wont be a huge influx of generic spells from paizo. Anything from here on out is going to be part of some specific theme IE mythic spells, or something from the campaign setting. The generic spells that paizo are going to put out are already out.
I would REALLY love something like this, mostly because looking up spells is probably the primary source of wear and tear on my core books. I would be really happy to buy a likely smaller book made specifically for the purpose, then have my core book constantly flipped through during games for spells.
+1!