Aasimar Cleric of Saranrae - Summoning or Channel Feat line?


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Hello everyone,

for Carrion Crown I am building a lvl 9 Aasimar Sun/Glory(Heroism) Cleric.
STR 10 CON 12 DEX 10 INT 8 WIS 16+2+2 CHA +2

Our Group consists out of
Sorceress (battlefield Control), Paladin, Switch Hit Ranger and Rogue

I am debating what feats to take. One Option would be to focus the Cleric on Channeling and Improve the Channels with extra, improved, quick, selective and maybe the outsider option.

Our group already has a good amount of Damage. I like both ideas but was wondering what would be more fun. The summoning feat line with augmented, sacred summons, superior summons would also be interesting as the aasimar is already an outsider. Making the cleric Human might make more sense in the summoning line with one more feat thought the Channeling line the Aasimar would be nicer with +2CHA.

I think its a little sad that there are only like 4 outsiders in the summons list and all are form B1. Lanters, Hounds and the 2 Azati that I would be able to summon with a standard action. Also can all good summons be "sacred" summoned ?

What would be your advice? Channeling Focused to harm undead or summing focused? Are there any feats that would help with summoning?

Thank you!

Silver Crusade

If you're going to be channeling at all, I would go with the selective channeling right away. There was a cleric in the party with me once that used channel to help some of our dying players, but since they didn't have selective channeling they brought back to positive hot points one of the people were had already taken down and then had to taken them down again. It sounds like you do have a lot of damage, and channeling can be very helpful, so that's what I would do.


Have a look at the description of Summon Monster

Summon Monster

Note the bottom section:

Quote:
When you use a summoning spell to summon a creature with an alignment or elemental subtype, it is a spell of that type. Creatures on Table 10–1 marked with an “*” are summoned with the celestial template, if you are good, and the fiendish template, if you are evil. If you are neutral, you may choose which template to apply to the creature. Creatures marked with an “*” always have an alignment that matches yours, regardless of their usual alignment. Summoning these creatures makes the summoning spell's type match your alignment.

In particular the bolded bit which combined with Sacred Summons should make summoning those creatures a standard action.

This pretty much makes Clerics some of the best summoners going as the normal 1 round casting time may as well paint a giant "hit me" sign on your head.


andreww wrote:

Have a look at the description of Summon Monster

Summon Monster

Note the bottom section:

Quote:
When you use a summoning spell to summon a creature with an alignment or elemental subtype, it is a spell of that type. Creatures on Table 10–1 marked with an “*” are summoned with the celestial template, if you are good, and the fiendish template, if you are evil. If you are neutral, you may choose which template to apply to the creature. Creatures marked with an “*” always have an alignment that matches yours, regardless of their usual alignment. Summoning these creatures makes the summoning spell's type match your alignment.

In particular the bolded bit which combined with Sacred Summons should make summoning those creatures a standard action.

This pretty much makes Clerics some of the best summoners going as the normal 1 round casting time may as well paint a giant "hit me" sign on your head.

But with sacred summons you can only summons monsters that match your deitys alignment:-( So none for Saranrae NG /only Archons for Iomadea LG / and Azatas for CG

" this means that this feat will only work with creatures in the summon monster list whose subtypes (listed in the table itself) match your deity's alignment. Creatures marked with * cannot be summoned as a standard action with this feat, as they do not have the requisite alignment subtype(s)"


you cannot use sacred summons on a summon spell unless their SUBTYPE exactly matches your own, not their alignment. regardless of those monsters you summon whose alignment is forced to match yours, it does not add the subtype of that alignment to that creature.

for instance compare the efreeti which is lawful evil, but only subtypes are (extraplanar, fire) and the horned devil, which is also lawful evil, whose subtypes are (devil, evil, extraplanar, lawful)

just because something has a certain alignment, does not mean that creature also has those subtype(s).

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