But of course. I have two Tiefling characters I plan to play some day, both Chelish. I know the setting better than he does in most cases, a fact I can take pride since I might just run a few Golarion campaigns of my own design some day if I can just get both groups I play in interested. Also, funny how this went from Paladins of Kurgess to supporting exotic races in a Fantasy setting (where they should be). Not that I mind, this is still constructive.
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Not any more, I'm here.
So, why do you want to play a Paladin of a deity that doesn't really care much for organization, rules or anything?
This whole "Paldins of <EVERYTHING>" concept is silly, it waters down the class (just as Clerics of <CONCEPT> do).
Now let's see if Icyshadow took his blood pressure meds in the morning :)
Because it's an option that can be taken, and it would be interesting to work such a thing out.
It's just as rules legal as Paladins of Sarenrae and Shelyn either way.
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Because it's an option that can be taken, and it would be interesting to work such a thing out.
It's just as rules legal as Paladins of Sarenrae and Shelyn either way.
Both of those are NG and do have organized churches that support and endorse Paladins.
Just like I can't really imagine a Paladin of Cayden, I can't imagine a Paladin of Kurgess. Paladins are about working within frames of rules and enforcing them, hard to do that when your patron deity is all about "screw rules, do what you want".
Now, an Inquisitor of Kurgess, that's a interesting idea worth exploring...
Blackblood, I wrote such things up yet he never bothered reading them. It does explain why I tend to get angry with him, as he's more or less mocking me as a writer, just like some haughty noble who would overlook a good food just because it smells funny, like cabbage stew. Gorbacz, if what you were saying were true, wouldn't Kurgess be Chaotic Good instead of Neutral Good? By that same notion, only Lawful Good deities could sponsor Paladins. And no, I do NOT support Chaotic Good Paladins, even if that one Forgotten Realms deity had them.
(Had a typo with Kurgess' alignment)
Also, from what I heard, Irori does NOT have organized churches that sponsor and endorse Paladins, yet he has them and even a Paladin Prestige Class.
And, cheers for 1337th post!
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Whooops, apologies. Something struck in my mind that Big K is CG, likely due to that bit about him being a child of CC and Desna. Genuinely sorry there.
So, then, let's try to make that happen, taking Irori as a template. So, no Paladin orders or codes to speak of. But, he's got a thing for tournaments, doesn't he? So perhaps, his Paladins are travelling loners who try to make sure that competitions and contests of any type - from sports to challenges, arena fights and juridical champion fights are fair and square. A niche, surely, but that's what minor deities are for.
Sounds like she'd have a place in Tymon, that River Kingdom that just loves gladiators. Were there any other locations where tournaments and such were common? I only got Jalmeray's monk contests and the usual colosseums of Taldor and Cheliax in mind at the moment. Also, I think the Paladin would consider the usual Paladin's hunting for evil an equal priority to tournament participation, unless the latter SHOULD be more important than the former. And by she I mean the paladin, not the deity who is a he.
You know the entire point of Tabletop Gaming is for everyone to have fun.
What would his reasoning for disallowing unique PCs?
I was under the impression that heroes were unique individuals.
I've disallowed monster pcs before, when they aren't balanced or aren't available in the setting. I like monster pcs and npcs, but can't always let it fly.
I've disallowed monster pcs before, when they aren't balanced or aren't available in the setting. I like monster pcs and npcs, but can't always let it fly.You know the entire point of Tabletop Gaming is for everyone to have fun.
What would his reasoning for disallowing unique PCs?
I was under the impression that heroes were unique individuals.
I have taken steps to make sure they don't look out of place in the settings I'd play in, which I had said before here. And only one of my races even goes to +1 ECL (actually higher, but I forgot the exact estimate), and it's not necessarily even supposed to be playable, given it's a Large Aberration and such.
No, I was more commenting on odd and unique PCs, not necessarily monstrous PCs.
Exactly.
I started making a code for Kurgess based on the ones in Faiths of Purity, but I'm hitting a block. I guess I'm just not as good of a writer. Here's all that I have so far:
The paladins of Kurgess are friendly competitors. They seek out athletic games for the joy of exercising their strengths, not just to win. They value fairness above all, caring about their competition, even willing to give their lives to defend them if necessary. For the same reason, they also make excellent coaches and referees.
* I am fair in competition. I never cheat, and will not abide cheaters.
Well, that first part of the code sounds good.
Though the concept seems more and more awesome the more I think of it.
Bartender: "So, you're a Paladin, eh?"
Paladin: "Yeah. Fighting evil is part of the job."
Bartender: "Well, what do you do on your free time?"
Paladin: "Sports. Keeps me in shape, and it's something my deity appreciates."
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Looking out of place, is the perfect flavor for becoming a hero.
Not everyone wants to play average joe.
Many of us are already average joes in life, and fantasy allows them to temporally escape that.
When a DM looks you in the face, and tells you "NO, you're an average joe here too".
He crushes the fantasy.
That would be awful.
Average Joe!
Okay... :(
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The idea of a paladin the mediates disputes though tournaments sounds interesting and even fits the lawful part of being a paladin but does that mean smite evil becomes smite cheater?
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Oh man, their red card would hurt.
Edit: I think that I captured the rest of the code.
* I will always do the best that I can, out of joy and honor for the abilities that I have been given.
* I will respect my competitors, whether they are better or worse. As long as the playing field be level, I will revel in it.
* When danger threatens, I will rise to the occasion. My physical prowess was given to me for a reason, and I will use it for the good of all, even at my own risk.
* I will neither refuse a worthy challenge, nor seek to humiliate those who are not my peers.
* When I am playing on a team, I will seek the best for the team as a whole, even if I would look better playing differently. On the other hand, even if my performance makes the difference, I will be proud of my team and not of myself.
* I will choose a sport and perfect it. When I have mastered it, I will teach others and referee games. The practices I leave behind will enrich the game for those who follow, and the fair competitions that I moderate will enrich it now.
Kurgess has a Paladin Code listed in Inner Sea Faiths...
"Paladins of Kurgess are jovial in nature but firm in conviction, and brook no cheaters or liars among their ranks. Their tenants include the following affirmations:
Fairness and good sportsmanship are testaments to one’s virtue. I must set the finest example of what it means to be sporting and noble in challenges of strength and honor.
A challenge that is won unfairly is not a challenge won. I am no cheat, and I will lose any contest of brawn, honor, or mettle rather than resort to knavery or trickery.
Frauds have no place among true competitors. In contests of import and high-stakes trials, I will unrelentingly reveal the untruthful and deliver them to their proper justice.
Winning and losing are two sides of the same coin, and both are worthy of acknowledgment. I treat champions with respect, but honor losers for their courage and willingness to challenge themselves.
I respectfully seek tutelage from my betters, give honest guidance to the less accomplished, and cherish most of all my friendships with rivals whose skill matches my own.
Every day is a contest to better oneself, and every deed undertaken is an opportunity to condition my allies and myself for the trials ahead."
