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Pg. 85 - Snake, constrictor
The description of this animal doesn't mention the word "familiar", but practically says so when it mentions they are "used" by some traveling spellcasters, albeit they're an unpopular choice due to their size. The wording can be misleading, since as of now no book allows constrictor snakes as familiars.
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Pg. 93 - Adamantine and mithral
At first I thought this was a glaring error, that adamantine is only 300 gp per lb. whereas mithral is 500 gp per lb., when adamantine light armor costs WAY more than mithral light armor.
Then it dawned on me that being a light metal, it takes more mithral to equal a pound than it takes adamantine to equal a pound. Is this true?
shaving kit lists at 15 sp twice and 15 gp once. which is it?
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Pg. 86 - Carriage
In the Core Rulebook on page 163, we see that the price of hiring a coach cab costs 3 cp per mile when traveling from town-to-town, and a flat 1 cp when traveling within the boundaries of a town. Presumably the Carriage on page 86 of UE is the reincarnated version of this, as it costs 3 cp per mile and is essentially a coach cab, based on its picture.
This would mean that somewhere in its description it might be prudent to mention that when traveling within a town in one of these, it costs 1 cp (unless this was intended to be a rule revision).
I really want this book but there do seem to be quite a few items (including missing entries in tables) that need errata so I've been hesitant. Is there any estimate when a new printing might be done that includes a lot of the errata outlined in this thread (or otherwise)? I realize the latest copy of the PDF version might include a lot of the updates but I'm really interested in a print copy.
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p. 247 - Plague Mask - the price of 27K seems very high for remove disease once per day and a +4 resistance bonus to diseases. Remove disease should cost 3*5*1800/5 = 5400, and even +4 resistance bonus on all saves only costs 16000. Even if you add 50% on the remove disease power for a second ability, that gets 24,100.
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p. 247 Stormlord's Helm - what exactly is meant by "once it does, the wearer can call lighting (as the spell) for 10 minutes or until the wearer dismisses the thunderstorm". Can you call a bolt of lightning for 100 rounds in a row, or only 10 times in the 10 minutes of the storm?
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2 points i'd like to make:
1) although mithril has a method of making other items not listed (cost by weight), the adamantine listing (p.48) does not have one at all, so there is no apparent way to make a metal shield out of adamantine (even though it wouldn't benefit much from it), either in the core rulebook or ultimate equipment. is that intended?
2) the wording of the 'hosteling' armor ability (p.119)seems strange. the size of the animal companion or familiar that can be put into the armor/shield is based on a combination of the TYPE of armor/shield in combination with the size of THE PERSON who activates it. This results in the ability of a medium sized character to use a sprite sized tower shield (which would be around 9 inches tall)intended for a smaller character to be able to put his large sized animal companion/mount into that shield then carry it conveniently in a shirt pocket, while a small sized character can never use any tower shield, regardless of size, (even one made for a medium creature), to put his own large animal companion inside it. Is this the intended effect?
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p. 260 Necklace of Netted Stars (very cool item, by the way) - it allows the recall of previously cast 1st-level or 0-level spells, as a pearl of power. However, 0-level spells are at will, so there's never a need to recall one that's previously cast. I assume the reference to 0-level spells should simply be removed, but don't know for sure that it wasn't supposed to be 1st-level or 2nd-level spells. (though the price would suggest not.)
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P. 122 Spell storing (armor) Anytime a creature hits the wearer with a melee attack or melee touch attack, the armor can cast the spell on that creature as a SWIFT ACTION if the weare desires...
The only time there would be a swift would be in cases of an AoO...so shouldn't that be an immediate action instead?
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2 points i'd like to make:
1) although mithril has a method of making other items not listed (cost by weight), the adamantine listing (p.48) does not have one at all, so there is no apparent way to make a metal shield out of adamantine (even though it wouldn't benefit much from it), either in the core rulebook or ultimate equipment. is that intended?
2) the wording of the 'hosteling' armor ability (p.119)seems strange. the size of the animal companion or familiar that can be put into the armor/shield is based on a combination of the TYPE of armor/shield in combination with the size of THE PERSON who activates it. This results in the ability of a medium sized character to use a sprite sized tower shield (which would be around 9 inches tall)intended for a smaller character to be able to put his large sized animal companion/mount into that shield then carry it conveniently in a shirt pocket, while a small sized character can never use any tower shield, regardless of size, (even one made for a medium creature), to put his own large animal companion inside it. Is this the intended effect?
I'll respond to the first part as I know the answer to it readily.
1) While it's true there's no real listed method of making items out of adamantine, shields do have rules. You'd price it as if making a weapon, since shields appear in that list. They'd be adamantine weapons at that point, able to bypass hardness with a shield bash.
It's true they'd provide the wielder no further defensive abilities on their own, but they'd have greater hardness and increased hit points. Serious shield bearers would do well to seek such an item out if they fear sunder-happy opponents.
2 points i'd like to make:
1) although mithril has a method of making other items not listed (cost by weight), the adamantine listing (p.48) does not have one at all, so there is no apparent way to make a metal shield out of adamantine (even though it wouldn't benefit much from it), either in the core rulebook or ultimate equipment. is that intended?
I'll respond to the first part as I know the answer to it readily.
1) While it's true there's no real listed method of making items out of adamantine, shields do have rules. You'd price it as if making a weapon, since shields appear in that list. They'd be adamantine weapons at that point, able to bypass hardness with a shield bash.
It's true they'd provide the wielder no further defensive abilities on their own, but they'd have greater hardness and increased hit points. Serious shield bearers would do well to seek such an item out if they fear sunder-happy opponents.
do you have some sort of official ruling on this from somewhere? i have seen lots of people argue that you should just use weapon rules, and i agree, but there has been no official response that i can find on the subject.
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do you have some sort of official ruling on this from somewhere? i have seen lots of people argue that you should just use weapon rules, and i agree, but there has been no official response that i can find on the subject.2 points i'd like to make:
1) although mithril has a method of making other items not listed (cost by weight), the adamantine listing (p.48) does not have one at all, so there is no apparent way to make a metal shield out of adamantine (even though it wouldn't benefit much from it), either in the core rulebook or ultimate equipment. is that intended?
I'll respond to the first part as I know the answer to it readily.
1) While it's true there's no real listed method of making items out of adamantine, shields do have rules. You'd price it as if making a weapon, since shields appear in that list. They'd be adamantine weapons at that point, able to bypass hardness with a shield bash.
It's true they'd provide the wielder no further defensive abilities on their own, but they'd have greater hardness and increased hit points. Serious shield bearers would do well to seek such an item out if they fear sunder-happy opponents.
Well the only "official" response I got confirming this wasn't from Paizo, but from Wizards of the Coast back in the days of 3.5 which Pathfinder is based off of.
I extend it to Pathfinder as well due to the fact that, RAW, shields are listed as weapons as well as appearing in the armor tables.
Not sure if it got mentioned before and not that I want to make adamantine more expensive but it has a listing under trade goods. Looking at the price per lb under that and the flat costs for different weapons and armor, why would a worked version of a rare metal sell for less than the material cost? Heavier weapons and armor should be more expensive right?
p. 83 - Under fox, the fox is listed as a canine. A fox is a vulpine, not a canine.
P242: CROWN OF HEAVEN
...A crown, an orb, and a scepter of heaven—collectively known as a regalia of heaven—increase in power when used together....
I can't find the "Orb of Heaven" item in the UE...
p. 83 - Under fox, the fox is listed as a canine. A fox is a vulpine, not a canine.I'm just going to link to Wikipedia...
Interesting - thanks for the link!
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P242: CROWN OF HEAVEN
...A crown, an orb, and a scepter of heaven—collectively known as a regalia of heaven—increase in power when used together....I can't find the "Orb of Heaven" item in the UE...
I believe the item in question is the orb of golden heaven on page 313. This item's description also has the same issue as it refers to a crown of golden heaven. I guess the scepter of heaven is the tie-breaker, as it doesn't mention the word "golden" at all, and so neither should the orb (which would be renamed).
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Pg. 104 - Impact foam
We need a little more information on this item. It says the two ways to use this item are to either spend 1 minute applying it to a 10-ft.-radius area, or throw it like a splash weapon (which sounds like its effects would then be instantaneous). We need more info about when throwing this item.
1) Since this is only intended to be thrown at the ground, not at enemies, can you target a square when throwing this, or only a grid intersection?
2) Since the term "splash weapon" was used, what exactly does the splash do? Is it simply saying that its effects apply equally to all squares in the splash?
3) Are the effects when throwing this instantaneous like I assumed above? Is that the trade-off, spend 1 minute applying to a 10-ft.-radius area or throw to only affect a 5-ft. radius area?
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Pg. 107 - Table 2-16: Alchemical Weapons
This table categorizes all the weaponized alchemical items into a handy table similar to the ones in the weapons chapter. The issue is that at the top of this table is the header of "Simple Weapons." Many of the items in this table are splash weapons, and by labeling these as simple weapons, some classes suddenly wouldn't be proficient in them, meaning they'd take a -4 penalty to use. True, page 202 of the Core Rulebook says that thrown splash weapons require no weapon proficiency, but that's way back in the Core Rulebook and buried in a paragraph in the combat chapter and a new player gearing up their wizard may be confused and ignore this table due to it saying "simple weapons" at the top of it.
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Pg. 108 - Liquid blade
Seems like this item should be able to be crafted for Small creatures, or any sized creature for that matter. Right now the description only mentions a blade for a Medium creature, which seems unrealistic (all it'd take is lesser or greater amounts in a smaller or bigger bottle). I got a player with a gnome alchemist in my game that'd love to make some of this stuff for herself.
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Pg. 108 - Pellet grenade
This variant of the fuse grenade has iron pellets inside of it but can instead be filled with silver, cold iron, or adamantine pellets to bypass appropriate damage reductions. It should be noted, though, which damage is affected by this. The damage value for this item is 1d6/1d6/1d6:
1) First d6 for the bludgeoning damage of the concussive force
2) Second d6 for the piercing damage of the flying pellets
3) Third d6 for the fire damage in the resulting explosion
So isn't it only the second d6 that's affected by damage reduction? What about the bludgeoning and fire damage (for both this item and the fuse grenade, which only deals these two damages)? Do they both bypass or do they bypass no matter what since their damage doesn't rely on a material?
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Pg. 109 - Skyrocket firework
Second to last sentence says:
"Anyone who takes damage from the explosion is either blinded or deafened (50% chance of either) for 1 round."
Shouldn't these be separate rolls? It seems like someone receiving one of these could be both blinded AND deafened, unless the either/or text was to prevent a target from avoiding both conditions with good rolls.
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Pg. 111 - Table 2-17: Poisons
Two of the poisons listed in this table, belladonna and hemlock, say "see text" at the ends of their Effect entries. Whatever text this is referring to (presumably descriptions for all these poisons) was cut from the book.
The additional text for belladonna is that a target can attempt one save to cure a lycanthropy affliction contracted in the past hour.
The additional text for hemlock is that creatures reduced to 0 Dexterity suffocate.
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p. 297 feather token (whip) - if this is used to grapple a creature, what is the CMD to escape the grapple? I would probably use 25, but that assumes a Dex bonus of 0, and should probably be stated in the rules, rather than making the GM have to figure it out on the spot.