What is the best class/function for a Strix?
I like the class alot but I cant seem to pin down an optimal build that utilizes that nifty flying speed.
Archery seems like an easy answer but i am hoping for something more creative.
Archery is the best answer.
Spellcasting would also work, but casters can get flight super easy anyway and strix boosts no mental stats, so it's not terribly useful to those classes.
Melee in general is a terrible option, you're basically giving away your main benefit: being unreachable.
If you wanted to do melee, you'd want a reach weapon and Flyby Attack and the Vital Strike line or some other good use of a standard action. But there are no reach finesseable weapons in PF. You can spend like 3 feats to turn the whip into one, but that's 3 freaking feats, and it's STILL an incredibly subpar weapon at that point. You'd probably have to go str-based and not get much out of your racial stat bonus.
A strix fighter gains access to flyby attack in words that bypass a simple ban on bestiary feats. Be a strix barbarian with the largest weapon available and enjoy your two standard actions a round for a couple vital strikes.
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Keep the ideas coming! I was thinking of something like the 3.5 raptorian uberdivers... any thoughts? Does anyone know of a mechanic that would allow a Strix Tetori to flyby and haul people up into the air and drop them to their doom? Cause that would be a fun grappler. max stealth. muhaha.
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Making him a rogue with flyby attack and a garrote. You can swoop in, grab people up by the neck, and strangle/decapitate them high in the air. :P
Much as i hate the class (personal dislike :P) a Strix Gunslinger made as a sniper would be rather nasty, as would a Grenadier Alchemist. Also a Dawnflower Dervish fighter at 9th level can full attack and make a move action getting alot more out of the mobility it also stacks with thier Airborn Ambusher Archetype although not sure you'd want too.
Well he said archery :P
Still fair enough the Dawnflower Dervish is still usable though :D
Of course if you're looking to be a buffer, a Strix bard wouldn't be horrible.
Strix Fighter(Mobile or Archer) isn't bad. Mobile especially given its Level 20 ability to Full-Attack as a Standard Action.
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Seriously, Alchemist.
*Nyoooooooooom*
*BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM*
*Cackles Maniacally*
Seriously, Alchemist.
*Nyoooooooooom*
*BOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOMBOOM*
*Cackles Maniacally*
The only thing missing is Air Raid Sirens and/or someone yelling "Stuka, Stuka."
Though isn't there a Rogue Archetype that gives the Bombs in place of Sneak Attack? Or is that one of my Homebrewed Archetypes?
The only thing missing is Air Raid Sirens and/or someone yelling "Stuka, Stuka."
Though isn't there a Rogue Archetype that gives the Bombs in place of Sneak Attack? Or is that one of my Homebrewed Archetypes?
I don't think there is.
There's an Alchemist archetype that gives you Sneak Attack instead of Bombs, if that's what you mean.
Yeah, it is one of my Homebrewed Archetypes called the Sapper/Pioneer. It is surprisingly useful even with having weaker bombs than the Alchemist.
It is played up as being a Trap and CQB Specialist.
I'd play it. I'd have it set up that he can take Discoveries in place of Talents (but only ones pertaining to Bombs) too, is that the route you went? Or is he more trap focused with Bomb as a nice extra damage option?
They lose the sneak attack talents and instead can choose bomb discoveries as Rogue Talents.
The one thing we can't figure out is a good Capstone for them. We have plenty of options we just. Can't decide what is a good fit.
EDIT: Later on today I will be starting a Thread for my Homebrewed Archetypes. Already kinda have one for my races... ;P
They lose the sneak attack talents and instead can choose bomb discoveries as Rogue Talents.
The one thing we can't figure out is a good Capstone for them. We have plenty of options we just. Can't decide what is a good fit.
EDIT: Later on today I will be starting a Thread for my Homebrewed Archetypes. Already kinda have one for my races... ;P
Coolies, I might just stop by and take a gander at it.
Though my GM and I are still wondering what in the hell I'm gonna do with all the "backups" I have already.
8 levels of ninja with scout archetype so you get SA if moving 10 or more feet. 3 levels of two handed fighter for overhand chop. The rest whatever you like.
Vital strike feats of course and the other standard melee stuff. You will be zipping by hacking people in half in no time.
I am curious as to why? I can not think of any better way to get more damage into a hit and run (or fly as the case is) build then the scout archetype.
Question: How are you taking the Scout archetype as a Ninja?
Winged characters with bows are sorta cliche, but that has a reason, it's just that good.
You're basically untouchable by anyone not able to fly, you can full attack every round, etc. At least in the first levels.
Fly is a 3rd level spell, so after 5th level you'll see fighters increasingly often have access to it and they actually are better at it than you (Good vs Average maneuverability).
Another concept you could try for is the winged character that swoops in, grabs an enemy, drags him off and drops him from great height, or over a cliff or something.
However, I have no idea if thats possible to do in PF or how that would be best done.
Question: How are you taking the Scout archetype as a Ninja?
Alternate classes can take any archetype that their base class could as long as they have the abilities and features that need swapped out. Ninja has the abilities needed to swap so they can take scout.
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I am curious as to why? I can not think of any better way to get more damage into a hit and run (or fly as the case is) build then the scout archetype.
Two-handed Fighter will add flat damage, and the Overhand Chop will allow x2 strength to the damage. Also, the full BAB will allow you to hit more often, and get more out of Power Attack.
Throw in the Fly-by-Attack and Death from Above feats, and mobile damage dealer you will be.
Another option is Barbarian for Pounce.
Alternate classes can take any archetype that their base class could as long as they have the abilities and features that need swapped out. Ninja has the abilities needed to swap so they can take scout.Question: How are you taking the Scout archetype as a Ninja?
When did they clarify that?
Alternate Classes are just very extensive archetypes.
From the last I heard an Alternate Class was treated as an Archetype that replaces the entire base class.
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Alternate Classes are just very extensive archetypes.From the last I heard an Alternate Class was treated as an Archetype that replaces the entire base class.
In a sense, yes.
Should a feat, or item, be exclusive to a Rogue, then a Ninja can use it.Should a feat, or item, be exclusive to a Ninja, then a Rogue cannot use it.
This also means that Samurai, and Ninja, can take Rogue and Cavalier archetypes, but of course, the same rules for archetypes apply.
Hmm... From what I understood the ruling was the Ninja counted as replacing every feature of the Rogue. So they couldn't take the Scout or such archetypes.
I am just trying to figure this out. I would prefer for alternate classes to take their base classes' archetypes.
Some features remain, and thus, can be replaced/altered.
But has there been any official ruling?
Yes, but it will take me a bit to find the quote.Some features remain, and thus, can be replaced/altered.But has there been any official ruling?
BRB making a Charge focused Barbarian/Scout Ninja
BRB making a Charge focused Barbarian/Scout NinjaYes, but it will take me a bit to find the quote.Some features remain, and thus, can be replaced/altered.But has there been any official ruling?
Evil. Almost as evil as my Archery/TWF focused Strix Barbarian(Urban)/Fighter(Mobile).