So Flurry of Blows is Two-Weapon Fighting now.Does that mean I get higher Penalties if I use ,lets say two Temple Swords?
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So Flurry of Blows is Two-Weapon Fighting now.Does that mean I get higher Penalties if I use ,lets say two Temple Swords?
Flurry of Blows isn't Two Weapon Fighting, it works like Two Weapon Fighting. Two Weapon Fighting has the light/off-hand restrictions, Flurry of Blows has the monk weapon restrictions. So in answer to your question, no, because Temple Swords have the monk property.
The clarification about Flurry of blows and TWF was made to clarify that you can't use a single weapon to make the entire attack chain, but when wielding weapons you have to rotate which weapons are striking as appropriate like TWF, so if your flurry is 15/+15/+10/+10/+5/+5/+0, then the first fifteen is your main hand, the second fifteen is your offhand, etc.
Any of those attacks may be replaced with an Unarmed Strike attack.
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hm, related question:
How would be handled a monk with TWF feat and with an unarmed/fist attack "in one hand" and a light monk weapon in the other? How would a monk be able to use both the flurry and the usual TWF together?
He wouldn't. Since Flurry works as if you had the benefits of the TWF feats, you're already getting the extra attacks, so he could use TWF, or FoB, but not both since the one works by acting like you had the other. And if said monk wanted to take TWF for some reason, he would alternate his attacks between the UAS and the light weapon as I described above, since it is Flurry of Blows that allows him to use his UAS for any or all of the normal attacks in his flurry.
How would be handled a monk with TWF feat and with an unarmed/fist attack "in one hand" and a light monk weapon in the other? How would a monk be able to use both the flurry and the usual TWF together?
He can flurry, using the flurry rules, or he can use Two-Weapon Fighting, using the TWF rules.
The clarification about Flurry of blows and TWF was made to clarify that you can't use a single weapon to make the entire attack chain, but when wielding weapons you have to rotate which weapons are striking as appropriate like TWF, so if your flurry is 15/+15/+10/+10/+5/+5/+0, then the first fifteen is your main hand, the second fifteen is your offhand, etc.
Any of those attacks may be replaced with an Unarmed Strike attack.
It's also worth noting that the clarification was retracted pending further discussion, of which (as far as I know) nothing has been heard. So you can follow years of convention and make every attack in your flurry with a single weapon, or you can follow the original intent which no one knew about until recently, and require two weapons. It's up to you and your GM.
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@joriandrake
The reply function wasn't working for some reason...
Anyways, the two different weapons function not making sense for an unarmed martial artist is why they specified that any attack in the chain can be replaced by an UAS, so you can make the whole chain with nothing but UAS. It's only when wielding two weapons that the distinction comes into play. The idea being that your unarmed strike can be any combination of body parts (head, hands, feet, etc.) so there's no need to differentiate between "I punch him with my left hand, now my right, now my left".
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@joriandrake
Dang it, reply still not working....
No you could use two separate and distinct daggers for TWF, but you would actually be hitting with the main hand dagger, then the offhand dagger, then the main again, etc.
You just couldn't choose to make the entire full attack with nothing but the first dagger.
So, if your attack with TWF (or flurry of blows) is 15/+15/+10/+10/+5/+5/+0, and you have a frost dagger (or kama) in your main hand and a flaming dagger (or kama)in your offhand, your attack sequence is frost/flaming/frost/flaming/frost/flaming/frost.
You couldn't make all the attacks with the flaming dagger (or kama).
And it all depends on a person ignoring the phrase in any combination that is part and parcel of the flurry of blows text.
Master Arminas
In a perfect world Flurry would just give you TWF with the "in any combination" caveat as it's special text. Add double slice to the monk bonus feat list and toss them improved and greater TWF at higher level and tada! Fixed Flurry. For archetypes that modify flurry such as zen archer, you could give them appropriate feats to compensate as the mechanic would be more modular with this change.
my 2 coppers and how I houserule my monks atm.