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Is anyone aware of why the Witch's Ward Hex should not affect the witch him/herself?


paroikos wrote:
Is anyone aware of why the Witch's Ward Hex should not affect the witch him/herself?

because the developers wrote it that way ?

heh but seriously the witch doesn't need an unlimited self buff which is what she'd have if it could effect her. lets not forget its a pretty nice buff she'd have access to at first level +2 deflection +2 saving throws is a little strong.

there's enough self buff options witch doesn't need one more.

it not a great ability later on anyway since it gets overwritten by a ring of protection or cloak of resistence which don't flick off when you get hit

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Phasics wrote:

because the developers wrote it that way ?

heh but seriously the witch doesn't need an unlimited self buff which is what she'd have if it could effect her. lets not forget its a pretty nice buff she'd have access to at first level +2 deflection +2 saving throws is a little strong.

there's enough self buff options witch doesn't need one more.

it not a great ability later on anyway since it gets overwritten by a ring of protection or cloak of resistence which don't flick off when you get hit

I'm cool with that, with some other reasons. My player would like more reasons if anyone has one.


paroikos wrote:
Phasics wrote:

because the developers wrote it that way ?

heh but seriously the witch doesn't need an unlimited self buff which is what she'd have if it could effect her. lets not forget its a pretty nice buff she'd have access to at first level +2 deflection +2 saving throws is a little strong.

there's enough self buff options witch doesn't need one more.

it not a great ability later on anyway since it gets overwritten by a ring of protection or cloak of resistence which don't flick off when you get hit

I'm cool with that, with some other reasons. My player would like more reasons if anyone has one.

Seriously ? tell him its Rules as Written no ifs no butts "A witch cannot use this ability on herself."

it really can't be spelled out any clearer.

I'm actually now worried if your player is asking for reasons when the rules are so clear cut what else is he going to make you "explain".

My advice to you is simple. don't indulge your player. Run your game your way if he doesn't like it ...GTFO :)

hehehe I mean don't be mean about it but be firm man your setting yourself up for problems down the road if you tolerate arguing over very clear cut rules

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Seriously ? tell him its Rules as Written no ifs no butts "A witch cannot use this ability on herself."

it really can't be spelled out any clearer.

I'm actually now worried if your player is asking for reasons when the rules are so clear cut what else is he going to make you "explain".

My advice to you is simple. don't indulge your player. Run your game your way if he doesn't like it ...GTFO :)

hehehe I mean don't be mean about it but be firm man your setting yourself up for problems down the road if you tolerate arguing over very clear cut rules

He's not even technically my player :p but I hear ya.

I dm a different group than he's in, I just play in the same group as him. There has to be some reason the devs put it the way they did. I told him to email them if he's not satisfied with anything, but it's the dm's choice either way.


paroikos wrote:


He's not even technically my player :p but I hear ya.

I dm a different group than he's in, I just play in the same group as him. There has to be some reason the devs put it the way they did. I told him to email them if he's not satisfied with anything, but it's the dm's choice either way.

Dev reason would no doubt have been Balence vs other Hexes


Phasics wrote:
paroikos wrote:


He's not even technically my player :p but I hear ya.

I dm a different group than he's in, I just play in the same group as him. There has to be some reason the devs put it the way they did. I told him to email them if he's not satisfied with anything, but it's the dm's choice either way.

Dev reason would no doubt have been Balence vs other Hexes

Game Balance!

The witch is not supposed to be a powerhouse self buffer, though she can to some degree.

The Witch is designed with a heavy bend towards Team support though buffing and debuffing.

If the player needs a metaphysical/flavor reason why this Hex cant be used on herself let me see......

Many legends of witches and other mystical creatures have limitations that they can not use certain magical abilities for "personal gain". Genies for example in many legends can grant their own wishes only the wishes of others. This is a power that the witch can possess but can not use for "personal gain".

Or another take on the power: The witch is twisting fate granting fortune to the subject of the Ward. While the witch has learned to manipulate the fate of others she is bound from manipulating her own fate as she has turned that privelage over to her Patron. Directly manipulating her own fate violates her pact with her patron.

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