And that was included in the calculations. But they were also including the now-dead +1 trait bonus to hit from the old version of heirloom weapon in their calculations...
Why is it now dead? The weapon is still the same weapon that they have the +1 trait bonus with, so it still applies.
-James
Wow didn't realize they nerfed Heirloom weapon. Its worthless now.
How is it worthless? A +1 trait bonus to attack with a specific weapon? That is a nice trait bonus. All they did was nerf the free masterwork item. Since a 2nd level clerical spell can take a weapon and make it masterwork there isnt much of a problem with upgrading it.
- Gauss
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you don't get the +1 trait bonus to attacks anymore.
Page 30—Replace the Heirloom Weapon entry
with the following text: “Heirloom Weapon: You
carry a non-masterwork simple or martial weapon
that has been passed down from generation to
generation in your family (pay the standard gp cost
for the weapon). When you select this trait, choose
one of the following benef its: proficiency with
that specific weapon, a +1 trait bonus on attacks
of opportunity with that specific weapon, or a +2
trait bonus on one kind of combat maneuver when
using that specific weapon.”
Yeah, the more i talk about it on here and read my comment, the more i realise how bad it really is. I keep making excuses because i want to play and this is the only local game i have been able to find. DMing is probably the way i should go, but i would like to find another game to join because the simple act of creating a character and their story is the funnest part of the game imho.
Well when all is said and done i appreciate you all listenning to me b$&%& and help me out. Thank you.
Good luck, Eternal1481. Glad you can recognize a bad situation for what it is.
Not from New England itself, but I've gathered from friends in the Boston and Providence areas that the gamer community's pretty healthy around there, so I'm sure you'll find a group that's fun to play with.
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And that was included in the calculations. But they were also including the now-dead +1 trait bonus to hit from the old version of heirloom weapon in their calculations...
Why is it now dead? The weapon is still the same weapon that they have the +1 trait bonus with, so it still applies.
-James
Where are they getting the +1 trait bonus to hit with their weapon?
Heirloom Weapon no longer includes a blanket +1 to hit trait bonus.
You can choose a +1 to hit with AoOs trait bonus, but that isn't going to help much with a firearm, since you don't get AoOs with it.
You can choose a +2 to a specific combat maneuver with that weapon, again something that won't play well with firearms.
Or you can choose proficiency with a specific single weapon. Not gonna help much with a Gunslinger who is already proficient with his firearm....
Heirloom Weapon is a worthless trait for a gunslinger using it for his firearm.
Jarred, you are right. Crap. There goes that trait for me. For some reason when I read the errata I didnt catch it was switched from attacks to attacks of opportunity.
- Gauss
Well i had a talk with him and he has killed off the DMPC. he will still have one to assist with plot progression and because we have an irregular who will assume control when he's around. This new char is not combat oriented and the only skills/spells it will have are buffs/party assist so he cant take center stage. well see how this works out.
Black Lantern, just replace human w/ goblin, "barbarian" with "urban barbarian" (can rage for +4 dex), enlarge person w/ reduce person, and bull's strength with cat's grace. And heirloom weapon w/ MW weapon....heirloom weapon was nerfed into the ground, doesn't really do anything now.
Alch 2, Barb 1 Goblin
Dex 22
Potion of Cat's Grace (Accelerated Drinker) 26
Reduce Person 28
Mutagen 32
Rage 36
Weapon Focus
Masterwork gunTo hit:
2 (BAB)
13 (Dex)
2 (size)
1 (MW)
1 (Weapon Focus)Total: +19
And yes, that is ridiculously optimized and reliant on consumable items and a 15 min. adventuring day. And the damage is crap.
I like my build better.