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alright, flurry of blows says you make the attacks 'as if using the Two-Weapon Fighting feat'. what if you use one of the two-handed monk weapons, such as a kursarigama? would you get 1.5 str bonus while flurrying? and when using a double weapon, could you switch between the two sides as you like, such as swapping between a monk weapon and unarmed strikes?
no and yes.
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Note that you would get to add the 1.5 STR mod if you are making an attack that is not a part of a Flurry - for example on a charge... This attack is also made at 3/4 BAB so your mileage may vary.
If you wield your Temple Sword in 2 hands as part of a Flurry you will not get the 1.5 x STR mod but you will get the 3:1 return on Power Attack - but I believe to be rules legal you would need to alternate attacks between the sword and your unarmed strikes (feet/head/knees/moustache/whatever).
Because you don't have an 'off-hand' as a Monk you will be receiving the 2:1 return on Power Attack with all of your unarmed strikes or your monk weapons if you are using them 1 handed.
So grab Power Attack at level 3 (as soon as you can) and get to work!
Because you don't have an 'off-hand' as a Monk you will be receiving the 2:1 return on Power Attack with all of your unarmed strikes or your monk weapons if you are using them 1 handed.
I am not so sure this is true. While FoB makes it clear that it makes no distinction, there is nothing about Power Attack regarding this. Certainly if you are using the FoB = TWF interpretation then the power attack uses off hand and main hand. Not sure about the 'any combination' interpretation, but in either case talk to your DM before you assume anything.
Go for it. Or use the sohei archetype and grab a nodachi... (1d10 base damage at 18-20 threat range...nice!)
A bit off the rules topic so I spoilered to help Jiggy out.
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we tend to play by the rules, pretty straight up, and only allow changes in particular situations. though, i like the other abilities and bonuses of taking four levels in monk. it's not really badly affecting my character. i'm using flurry instead of two-weapon fighting, and getting some other cool stuff. So no worries. :)
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Because you don't have an 'off-hand' as a Monk you will be receiving the 2:1 return on Power Attack with all of your unarmed strikes or your monk weapons if you are using them 1 handed.I am not so sure this is true. While FoB makes it clear that it makes no distinction, there is nothing about Power Attack regarding this. Certainly if you are using the FoB = TWF interpretation then the power attack uses off hand and main hand. Not sure about the 'any combination' interpretation, but in either case talk to your DM before you assume anything.
It works. Power attack specifically calls out the damage being halved if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or a secondary natural weapon. The Monk's class features clearly state that you don't have an off-hand and your unarmed strikes are not considered secondary natural weapons.
It was my understanding that the kasuri-gama was a double weapon so if you were using it in a flurry you would have the option of ...
Sickle primary + weight secondary or visa versa
Sickle primary + unarmed secondary or visa versa
Weight primary + unarmed secondary or visa versa
As per monk rules you use full strength with both and power attack would work separately in regard to bonus/penalties.
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except unarmed strike states that you may swap freely between the weapon and your unarmed striking, so neither of them is 'secondary'. so i could take one punch, then a slashing attack, then a bludgeoning attack, and none of them would be considered 'secondary' with power attack from what i understand
also, i know ninja is rogue, but monk and ninja synergize well, and i like the flavor of the ninja more than just rogue. getting a full sized ki pool through rogue? I dont see how you can do that. no, i'm fine with monk/ninja unless you know another way to make your ki pool based off wisdom without that.
It works. Power attack specifically calls out the damage being halved if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or a secondary natural weapon. The Monk's class features clearly state that you don't have an off-hand and your unarmed strikes are not considered secondary natural weapons.
Good point, well presented :D
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i understand that blackbloodtroll. but i WANT ninja. i want an ever-increasing ki pool, and ki powers, and stuff like that. why would i not want ninja? I've played rogues before, I just dont see how rogue is superior in this situation. sorry, just slightly confused.
I don't think BBT is inferring that rogue is superior to ninja - he's just saying don't fall into the trap of thinking that if you want a character to be a "ninja" you must take class levels in the ninja class.
If you have an idea of what it is you want your character to be able to do it's worth considering the various classes that would facilitate that. You may find that combination XYZ out performs character combo ABC.
For example if you wanted to make a 'rogue' character that was more capable in straight up melee you could take 20 levels of Ranger and still be a 'rogue' (some would assert that by doing so you'd end up with a vastly superior rogue in the process).
I know this is an old topic, but I'm curious-why don't you get the 1.5 from a two handed weapon?
A monk applies his full Strength bonus to his damage rolls for all successful attacks made with flurry of blows, whether the attacks are made with an off-hand or with a weapon wielded in both hands.
Doh.
