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Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

You could say we are an alliance of all that is good, the the Empyrean Alliance. The Empire makes it sound like we're the Imperium of Man, here to show you what good is, or else.

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I've been doing number comparisons on kickstarters and I hate to say it but, "I've got a bad feeling about this." Compare PFO to "Shaker" in kicktraq. Both set a goal of a million dollars. If PFO matches its curve for the next week I'll be expecting a cancellation unless some MASSIVE advertising gets under way. If you want to be optimistic, that's fine but keep a eye on the numbers. Numbers don't lie.

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Alexander_Damocles wrote:
You could say we are an alliance of all that is good, the the Empyrean Alliance. The Empire makes it sound like we're the Imperium of Man, here to show you what good is, or else.

I agree with what Alexander said. It's too big and it does not give a good impression of being neutral. This is the name of an empire Lawful good which Andius is the Emperor. Although in reality, he is a benevolent tyrant because he have the political and military power for the simple reason that the he form th guild until he abdicates his position.

When choosing a name, look what we are.

-a force for good
-our leader is a priest Sarenrae Goddess of healing, honesty, redemption, and the sun
-We have a miliary and political structure. (Who does not much with an empire since the military will not interfere in politics.)
-We have an education system.
-We are ready to ally ourselves with anyone who is good and accept the existance of those who attack Griefers.
-We have guilds who have political functions. So there is another power other than military influence and possibly police.

From this, we can say that Empyrean is not the word we're looking exatement since it looks more divine fire than the light of the sun.

Then I suggest Nirvana kingdom. Nirvana is the planar area for neutral good people after death in Golarion. Kingdom because it is still the king has the last word, but it a softer sounding.

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Je suis d'accord avec ce que dit alexander. C'est trop imposant et ça ne donne pas une impression d'être neutre bon. C'est plus un empire Loyal bon dont Andius est l'empereur. Bien que dans les faits, il correspond à un tyran bienveillant puisqu'il a le pouvoir politique et militaire pour la simple bonne raison qu'il a formé la guilde et ce jusqu'à ce qu'il abdique de son poste.

Quand on choisit un nom, il faut regarder ce qu'on nous sommes.

-une force du bien
-notre chef est un prêtre de Sarenrae Goddess of healing, honesty, redemption, and the sun
-Nous avons une structure miliaire et politique. (Qui ne se met pas beaucoup avec un empire puisque le militaire ne se mêlera pas de politique.)
-Nous aurons un système d'éducation.
-Nous sommes près à nous allier à quiconque est bon et à supporter quiconque attaque ceux qui nuit au plaisir des joueurs.
-Nous aurons des guildes qui ont des fonctions politiques. Donc, il y a une autre pouvoir d’influence autre que militaire et possiblement une police.
-nous sommes prêt à craindre l'ordre des autres pays afin de le bien gagne.

À partir de cela, on peut dire que Empyrean n'est pas exactement le mot qu'on recherche puisque il ressemble plus au feu divin qu'à la lumière du soleil.

Je propose alors Nirvana kingdom. Nirvana étant la zone planaire pour les gens neutre bon après lors mort dans Golarion. Kingdom parce que c'est toujours le roi qui a le dernier mot, mais ça un consonance plus douce.

Goblin Squad Member

One thing to consider is this name is supposed to follow us to any game we go to. To that end I think Solemor has a really great suggestion.

We should simply name our overall organization "The Empyrean." And each individual branch can call itself "The Empyrean _____."

Not that I intend to play on all these games but just to give an example it could break down like this:

Star Citizen: The Empyrean Fleet
Pathfinder Online: The Empyrean Kingdom
Mech Warrior Online: The Empyrean Pack
Lord of the Rings Online: The Empyrean Brigade
Wurm Online: The Empyrean City-State

You get the idea. It can be The Empyrean (Whatever type or organization makes sense.)

It also allows us to change it as we adjust in size or purpose within a game. If GL on Pathfinder Online starts out as a few holdings we can call ourselves the Empyrean Kingdom or The Empyrean State. If we grow to dominate a large portion of the map we could then change it to The Empyrean Empire or Empyrean Alliance.

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

I *really* like that idea, Andius. I think that's quite brilliant.

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We do something very similar in Pax, and it has worked great for us when it comes to branding / name recognition.

If you guys have any questions, feel free to drop by our site. Rawn (our "architect") and the rest of our community leadership would be more than happy to give what advice we can.

Building lasting multigaming communities is tough, but its a worthwhile endeavor.

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Love that idea Andius. All for it.

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

I think it works pretty good.

Grand Lodge Goblin Squad Member

I vote yes. Nice and simple.

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

Hmmm wonder when the next update will come for the kickstarter. Oh well hopefully its something cool.

Wondering if we might have to rework our naming conventions for the ranks and what not. Might be a good Idea to.

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Something more fitting with the setting I think would help immersion a lot. Though a balance between fitting for the setting and easy to understand needs to be reached too.

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

Alright I will begin thinking about some other motif for our ranking system

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

REMINDER: We will have another meeting on December 7th, at 7pm PST.

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Yeah, I like Andius's idea as well. Works great.

Brainstorming some names for top-level and sub-formations (with no particular games in mind).

Top Level: The Empyrean Federates, The Empyrean Principalty, The Grand Duchy of The Empyrean, The Empyrean Legion, Legio XXI "Empyrean", Task Force Empyrean ...

Sub-Formation: The Empyrean Guard, HRH Empyrean Lancers, HRH Empyrean Dragoon Guard, HRH Empyrean Hussars, HRH Empyrean, HRH Empyrean Cuirassiers, HRH Empyrean Border Scouts, HRH Empyrean Grenadiers, HRH Empyrean Fusiliers, 1st Empyrean Regiment of Foot, 1st Cohort of the Empyrean Legion ...

Will try to shoot out some others as they come to me

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

For the Rankings we could go Medieval?

Squire->Man-at-Arms->Sergeant->Knight->Marshal->Seneschal-&g t;Grand Master

Looking at this however and given how our Politics would be separate from our army we would have to change this a bit.

Squire->Man-At-Arms(Private)->Sergeant->Marshal->Master and Commander

Knight->Baron->Count->Duke/Lord->Head of State(ie. Archduke or Grand Master)

I removed Knights because it was a title rather than a military rank and the Head of State would be the only person above the MC. This could be changed but, the basic system would use medieval terms like these ones.

Any thoughts?

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JakBlitz wrote:

For the Rankings we could go Medieval?

Squire->Man-at-Arms->Sergeant->Knight->Marshal->Seneschal-&g t;Grand Master

Looking at this however and given how our Politics would be separate from our army we would have to change this a bit.

Squire->Man-At-Arms(Private)->Sergeant->Marshal->Master and Commander

Knight->Baron->Count->Duke/Lord->Head of State(ie. Archduke or Grand Master)

I removed Knights because it was a title rather than a military rank and the Head of State would be the only person above the MC. This could be changed but, the basic system would use medieval terms like these ones.

Any thoughts?

Actualy I would propose a slight alteration for Medieval...

Yeoman->Man-at-Arms->Sergeant->Captain->Marshal->Lord Commander

Edit: Also I think your basic rank structure works well, there is also room for appointments for specific positions. Therefore a person could have standing on multiple axis. For example...

Knight (political rank) Captain (military rank) , Herald of the Duchy (appointed position).

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

That works as well. The Medieval army ranks and nobility crossed over alot. That why they would have to be seperate. Yeoman might be a better term then Squire. Captain and Marshal work. I don't think we need to get so in-depth that we are adding things like Undermarshal.

The Political Titles are much easier.

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Sorry I missed all this.... I did not get in until 11pm last night and I was out of touch the whole weekend.

Andius I like the Star Citizen: The Empyrean Fleet, Pathfinder Online: The Empyrean Kingdom, Mech Warrior Online: The Empyrean Pack!!!

I will see everyone Wednesday!

Valinar

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

Honestly, I think we would only need a total of 4 ranks. You've got your basic soldier, then a squad leader, then someone in charge of all the squads in an area, then the boss. Don't really need a 6 layer deep command structure. If its 5 fold progression, then it goes 1 --> 5 --> 25 --> 125. I can't really see us being much larger than 125 people for a very long time. At the most, 5 ranks would lead us to 625 people on the rank chart. The odds of us reaching 625 formal members of our military seem very small to me.

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For MWO it would have to be The Empyrean House, Company, Battalion, or Regiment.

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Alexander_Damocles wrote:
Honestly, I think we would only need a total of 4 ranks. You've got your basic soldier, then a squad leader, then someone in charge of all the squads in an area, then the boss. Don't really need a 6 layer deep command structure. If its 5 fold progression, then it goes 1 --> 5 --> 25 --> 125. I can't really see us being much larger than 125 people for a very long time. At the most, 5 ranks would lead us to 625 people on the rank chart. The odds of us reaching 625 formal members of our military seem very small to me.

Yeah we aren't planning on changing the System as it now, we are just getting terms to replace them. Right now we work at a 4 tier system in the Legion. So if we did the conversion it might be Man-At-Arms->Sergeant->Captain->Lord Commander. The members who are party of the militia could be considered Yeoman. Just tossing out ideas we can pick through to apply. This will be discussed at the meeting Friday.

@Waruko The Empyrean Company (TEC) for my vote.

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Alexander_Damocles wrote:
Honestly, I think we would only need a total of 4 ranks. You've got your basic soldier, then a squad leader, then someone in charge of all the squads in an area, then the boss. Don't really need a 6 layer deep command structure. If its 5 fold progression, then it goes 1 --> 5 --> 25 --> 125. I can't really see us being much larger than 125 people for a very long time. At the most, 5 ranks would lead us to 625 people on the rank chart. The odds of us reaching 625 formal members of our military seem very small to me.

Not proposing to change the number of layers in the organizational structure. I do think it's good to have some extra padding in the number of ranks though. That allows for more flexability which (IMO) is always a good thing. The other thing it could be usefull for is some sort of executive officer (XO) or assistant type positions. That could be really usefull for a 24/7/365 type game that also has alot of complexity to it.

So at some of the layers you could have Assistant Leaders that help take some of the load off of or cover for the unit leaders if needed. That also allows for absorbing casualties more gracefully if the unit leader happens to go down.

It's why I think a system that has more ranks then it does organizational levels works better then one that has a straight 1:1 ratio. YMMV.

Edit: I'd actualy propose something along the lines of this..

Basic Unit = Squad (5 Men) Led by a Sergeant, composition: Recruits (or whatever name is appropriate here) Men-At-Arms, Senior Men-At-Arms.

Next Level = Company (1-X Squads) Led by a Captain, composition: Lieutenant and all Squad Ranks.

Top Level = Lord Commander (or whatever the top level rank name is) composition: Marshal's and all Company Ranks.

Then we adjust to fit in with the exact mechanics GW exposes for PFO. This allows for assistants at each level (especialy the higher levels where they might actualy be important) and some gradiation among the "Enlisted" troops as recognition of experience and achievement.

I'd also suggest for the Commands at Company & Top Level that we either hold them outside of the regular squad structure (i.e They aren't officialy part of any squad" or we create specific "Command Squads" to place them in. Essentialy the goal here is to create a well ordered structure that also has a level of flexibilty built into it. YMMV.

Goblin Squad Member

I'm liking this theme a lot. I especially like:

Yeoman
Man at Arms
Lord Commander
Lord
Knight
Grand Master

Yeoman is a good rank for members of the militia.

Man at Arms is a great rank for people who have passed their tryouts and joined the military as a basic soldier.

Lord Commander is a great rank for the head of the Military.

Lord is a nice political rank for the head of a settlement.

Knight is a great title I can award to our most valiant soldiers.

You can call me Grand Master Andius until we get large enough I feel right taking the title High King.

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Actually that brings up something I was curious about...

Quote:

A character proposing a settlement must define several aspects of the settlement in its charter:

The settlement's name
The location of the settlement's hex
The settlement's alignment—characters must be within one alignment step* to join or remain a member of the settlement
The settlement's tax rate

Allocation of settlement votes:
Feudal: One character has all the votes
Oligarchy: A limited group of characters have votes as apportioned by the charter
Democracy: Every member of the settlement has an equal vote

The membership policy of the settlement
Open: New members are automatically approved for membership
Restricted: New members must be approved by a majority vote
Closed: New members must be approved by a unanimous vote
Approved: New members must be approved by a designated existing member

Things we should be considering, I suspect we'll be large enough for a settlement at launch at the current rate(maybe not a kingdom, but definitely a settlement).

Of particular note...how are votes to be handled? I mean, we have Andius as a leader, but are we really going to have a single person making all the decisions that affects everyone? Democracy seems to be most fitting to the neutral good alignment of the group, but has its own issues too.

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Me, Jak Blitz, and Valinar are all members of a council so I am not the lone authority though certainly I hold the most power of anyone.

We will never be a democracy for two reasons:

1. That would allow members of unproven loyalty (potential spies) a major say in our decisions.

2. I will never allow us to harm the community for our own gain. Even if the majority demands it.

That said it is very important to me that everyone can voice their concerns and be heard. The council and I are definitely listening and care about your concerns. But this is an unofficial meta-game process.

I know people have the right to keep our power in check by voting with their feet and leaving as well. I would hate to see valuable members who agree with our ideals leaving because our leadership is too heavy handed. I won't let that happen.

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

Also the Silver Blades, Golden Scales, Green Cloaks, and White Staffs will have Masters that are elected by their primary membership. So there will be some in game democracy. There will be more people promoted to the council as well.

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Works for me. I was hoping for something akin to a council, since it gets the best of both worlds essentially. Having elected representative leaders in the four guilds is also an excellent idea.

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I should be on tonight for a little bit and I am on target to being free Wednesday night! The meeting is 9pm eastern correct?

Valinar

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December 7th, at 7pm PST

Friday I believe.

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LOL you are right it is Friday... I am still looking at the month of November on my calendar.

I must have rolled a 1 on my perception check the last two mornings.

Valinar

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

Oh well. Hop on anyways if you got the time.

Hopefully when we remake the GL company thread into a kingdom it will have all the information in one place, won't be looking all over to piece together my ideas. Once we get things in order it should be our first priority.

Also as a RP side. My Character will be a Dwarf of Clan Battleborn. Inside the GL if anyone else is considering a Dwarf character and they want to be a part of my clan let me know. Could be cool if we got a bunch of the Same clan for our Dwarves.

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Andius wrote:

Me, Jak Blitz, and Valinar are all members of a council so I am not the lone authority though certainly I hold the most power of anyone.

We will never be a democracy ...

By the way, +1 for no democracy.

I've always viewed a benevolent dictatorship as far better - it's just so darn hard to find good benevolent dictators these days :)

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

gbonehead wrote:
Andius wrote:

Me, Jak Blitz, and Valinar are all members of a council so I am not the lone authority though certainly I hold the most power of anyone.

We will never be a democracy ...

By the way, +1 for no democracy.

I've always viewed a benevolent dictatorship as far better - it's just so darn hard to find good benevolent dictators these days :)

That was the term I was looking for yesterday.

Cognates Goblin Squad Member

Hey, I was talking with someone over on the Kickstarter comments...

JakBlitz wrote:
White Staffs

Maybe "White Staves" would sound better?

elf/elves
dwarf/dwarves
wolf/wolves
calf/calves
hoof/hooves
sheaf/sheaves
leaf/leaves

Some can also be pluralized just by adding an 's', but I've often thought it looks and sounds better to use the version that shifts the 'f' to a 'v'.

If not, no big deal, it's just a thought, not a criticism.

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

Kevin7 wrote:

Hey, I was talking with someone over on the Kickstarter comments...

JakBlitz wrote:
White Staffs

Maybe "White Staves" would sound better?

elf/elves
dwarf/dwarves
wolf/wolves
calf/calves
hoof/hooves
sheaf/sheaves
leaf/leaves

Some can also be pluralized just by adding an 's', but I've often thought it looks and sounds better to use the version that shifts the 'f' to a 'v'.

If not, no big deal, it's just a thought, not a criticism.

Lol yeah you were chatting with me. It sounds better but, it seems my spell check disagreed with it. That being said White Staves sounds right.

Goblin Squad Member

Just putting in your advice or perhaps you are interested in Great Legionnaires and the "White Staves"?

Perhaps criticizing my name for that guild is your way of telling me you want to be our scribe? ;)

Cognates Goblin Squad Member

JakBlitz wrote:
Kevin7 wrote:
Hey, I was talking with someone over on the Kickstarter comments...
Lol yeah you were chatting with me. It sounds better but, it seems my spell check disagreed with it. That being said White Staves sounds right.

Ah, so you're the other Kevin, with the One Piece avatar (I think... I haven't watched it, but I have a friend who is very into it).

I have my Chrome spell-check set to the Brit dictionary, since I apparently read too many British authors as a kid and I tend to use those spellings. This spell-check accepts both "staffs" and "staves", but I still like the latter form better.
Here's a fun bit of trivia: the original editorial pass of Tolkien's work tried to 'correct' the plurals of his races to "elfs" and "dwarfs", but he insisted that should be changed back to "elves" and "dwarves". He had some other linguistic quirks, like the doubled 'G' in "waggon" and using an 'X' in words like "connexion". Back when I played LotRO, I tried to be sure and use Tolkien spellings whenever possible.

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So anyway, how would we go about setting up the mage tower / scholar academy thing? All of your other subgroups seem to have colours in their names, so maybe some form of blue would work for knowledge? "Order of the Azure Pentacle", perhaps?
(Call them the 'Azure Star' for short)
The academy motto: "Sapere Aude" - which means "dare to be wise" or "dare to know".
We amass knowledge, act as advisors, teach students, and advance the study of arcane magic. We're not primarily militaristic, but some members may wish to focus on blasting spells and the like. If the Magus class is ever added (or if people just emulate it by training with both swords and spellbooks), the Magi would train their arcane skills with us, along with Summoners & Witches, if those are added. We are not, however, a temple. Members and students are of course free to believe and pray as they wish, but the Order and the academy are not ruled over by any temple, even that of Nethys.
Magic item crafting is of interest to us, so facilities for artifice could be part of the academy as well.

What do you think?

Cognates Goblin Squad Member

Andius wrote:

Just putting in your advice or perhaps you are interested in Great Legionnaires and the "White Staves"?

Perhaps criticizing my name for that guild is your way of telling me you want to be our scribe? ;)

"Scribe" makes me sound like a secretary. I'm also a scholar and advisor, not merely a literate person with decent handwriting! :P

(What time zone are you in? I'm in GMT-5, Eastern US.)

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Alaskan (GMT -9). But that is just me. We have a good spread of US timezones and I'm hoping to get large enough that our online members rise and fall at about the same rate as server activity.

Well Mr. Scholar. What word would you use?

The scribe is mainly a position editing our official document and taking notes at the meetings you are able to attend. I could expand the duties and authority that comes with it if you do a good job though.

Your British style flavor could be a real asset considering the proposed changes in our name and ranking system.

Cognates Goblin Squad Member

Andius wrote:

Alaskan (GMT -9). But that is just me. We have a good spread of US timezones.

Well Mr. Scholar. What word would you use?

The scribe is mainly a position editing our official document and taking notes at the meetings you are able to attend. I could expand the duties and authority that comes with it if you do a good job though.

Ah, so do you have meetings using Robert's Rules of Order, and all that? I suppose keeping minutes is scribal work. Does Teamspeak have a way to record things for later note-taking? I'm not sure I could catch everything if a meeting gets to moving quickly.

The other 'scholar' bit was more of an in-character response. ;)

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I always auto-corrected that in my head to White Staves! =)

Valinar

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

Kevin C Jenkins wrote:
Andius wrote:

Well Mr. Scholar. What word would you use?

The scribe is mainly a position editing our official document and taking notes at the meetings you are able to attend. I could expand the duties and authority that comes with it if you do a good job though.

Ah, so do you have meetings using Robert's Rules of Order, and all that? I suppose keeping minutes is scribal work. Does Teamspeak have a way to record things for later note-taking? I'm not sure I could catch everything if a meeting gets to moving quickly.

The other 'scholar' bit was more of an in-character response. ;)

There is a way to record the meetings in Teamspeak.

Also I was thinking we should move away from names like Silver Blades, Golden Scales and Green Cloaks to something more formal for when we actually form them. This would leave the current naming to be more of a title for the primary membership.

Current ideas were The Golden Scales Trade Guild (Golden Scales), The Explorers League (Green Cloaks), The House of Steel(Silver Blades), and the Empyrean Embassy(White Staves). If we added a 5th subgroup for magical/general knowledge and possible magic based services (ie. teleporting and binding) It could be the Circle of the Azure Star? So basically this is mostly an ascetic choice.

This has been something I was just thinking about. Anyone else have thoughts on this idea?

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JakBlitz wrote:

Current ideas were The Golden Scales Trade Guild (Golden Scales), The Explorers League (Green Cloaks), The House of Steel(Silver Blades), and the Empyrean Embassy(White Staves). If we added a 5th subgroup for magical/general knowledge and possible magic based services (ie. teleporting and binding) It could be the Circle of the Azure Star? So basically this is mostly an ascetic choice.

This has been something I was just thinking about. Anyone else have thoughts on this idea?

I like that alot!

Valinar

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We're getting pretty wordy with names, but why not? How about..

"The 1st Regiment of Foot, the Princess of Wales's Own Yorkshire Regiment - The Green Howards"

Damn, I think that's already taken! All kiding aside, I do like that idea, Jak. Although, I'd approach it by trying to work out a basic history/background for how the Great Legionnaires (or Empyrean) fits into the River Kingdoms and then try to work out the names for the different sub-organizations from there. Otherwise you end up with a bunch of really cool sounding names that don't neccesarly fit together or seem to have any logical connection to one another.

The games clearly still in development, but we do seem to have a pretty solid base for the background of the setting in general. That should be solid enough to work on.

I think once you get something like that it really helps you come up with names and titles that are infused with some meaning and some connection to one another and the greater organization. It also helps gel more details of each sub-organization and also helps people start thinking about individual background stories for characters (or even character concepts) and how they might fit into the organizations history.

For example in the guild I was in in LOTR, we came up with the basic concept of being a lost Eored of Rohan and a background story for exactly how that Eored found itself in the games current starting setting. That easly gelled the names for ranks and titles and even the organization of the guild within that game, along with some of the traditions/behavior for the guild and also provided a good hook for players to work up thier own background stories. Granted, we were a heavy RP guild...so that really mattered. But I think even for a guild that is less focused on RP, it can be really usefull. YMMV.

Cognates Goblin Squad Member

JakBlitz wrote:

There is a way to record the meetings in Teamspeak.

Also I was thinking we should move away from names like Silver Blades, Golden Scales and Green Cloaks to something more formal for when we actually form them. This would leave the current naming to be more of a title for the primary membership.

Current ideas were The Golden Scales Trade Guild (Golden Scales), The Explorers League (Green Cloaks), The House of Steel(Silver Blades), and the Empyrean Embassy(White Staves). If we added a 5th subgroup for magical/general knowledge and possible magic based services (ie. teleporting and binding) It could be the Circle of the Azure Star? So basically this is mostly an ascetic choice.

This has been something I was just thinking about. Anyone else have thoughts on this idea?

Perhaps we should leave the ascetic choices to the monks. :P

As to the aesthetics, I like the idea of having a formal name and informal short form. Even if the company isn't primarily focused on RP, having the trappings there looks good and leaves the option for more roleplay open.

So the overall company name is in flux, going between 'Great Legion' to 'Empyrean Legion'? Or is more like 'Adjective _______' with the blank noun changing with the size of the settlement and area of influence (with an eventual goal of 'Empire')?

Oh, and good to know Teamspeak can record, thanks!

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GrumpyMel wrote:

All kiding aside, I do like that idea, Jak. Although, I'd approach it by trying to work out a basic history/background for how the Great Legionnaires (or Empyrean) fits into the River Kingdoms and then try to work out the names for the different sub-organizations from there. Otherwise you end up with a bunch of really cool sounding names that don't neccesarly fit together or seem to have any logical connection to one another.

The games clearly still in development, but we do seem to have a pretty solid base for the background of the setting in general. That should be solid enough to work on.

Well at least the names sound good. I mean we seem to be a grouping of like-minded individuals journeying together to the River Kingdoms to create a place in the world for ourselves. If we want to get deeper than that there will be time to go deeper. I mean the one thing we have is time.

Like I said RP wise I will be creating my own dwarf clan. Who on summons, from most likely Andius, journeyed from Highhelm to found a new Goodly Kingdom. How many of my clan made the journey with me will yet to be seen. I wouldn't blame them though, not exactly prime dwarf property in the River Kingdoms.

If we get farther into it we could make our history having the Founding Masters of each guild we once an adventuring party who each went their separate ways. Created different guilds for themselves and is now reuniting in the River Kingdoms to found something larger.

I have given all this some thought you see lol.

Kevin C Jenkins wrote:


So the overall company name is in flux, going between 'Great Legion' to 'Empyrean Legion'? Or is more like 'Adjective _______' with the blank noun changing with the size of the settlement and area of influence (with an eventual goal of 'Empire')?

Oh, and good to know Teamspeak can record, thanks!

So far I think the favorites were The Empyrean Alliance or The Empyrean Kingdom in PFO. "The Empyrean" will be the name for our community. That way when we add branches into other games we will have a base for our name. I think it works well as do the people i have heard from.

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Maybe a bit late to the table, but a single name across multiple games would be wonderful. You just need to pick something generic that suits the purpose. In our case: Defending good and vanquishing evil - thus you get...

The Empyrean Guard.

If a decision is already made, then so be it.

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My stance on roleplay is that we will not be forcing members who have no interest to take part in it, but that we will have a solid backstory and roleplay events for those interested. I personally really love RP and hope to foster a strong RP community within The Empyrean but our main objective is still helping the community and combating it's bad elements.

Given our new theme I think we have two strong elements to work from in creating our roleplay based on my character's established RP. A lot is unknown about Andius Meuridiar but we do know:

1. Meuridiar is a noble family. Andius's father is or was the head of a noble house meaning Andius COULD be the new lord of house Meuridiar .

2. Andius may or may not be a half elf but he does have elven and human blood as has the house Meuridiar for generations, with all the RP implications that has. The unjustly outcast would certainly find welcome in lands ruled by neutral good half elves.

Cognates Goblin Squad Member

I like the background story of having originally been adventuring companions who are now reuniting.

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'Empyrean Guard' sounds cool, as it says what kind of person you're striving to be and what you want to do with your power.

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I've heard (as in hearsay, grains of salt and all that) a half-elf has an elven parent, grandparent, or two half-elven parents. Though 'half' is in the name, 25% elf may produce a half-elf, in game mechanics terms. Of course, if that race isn't available, a human with sharp features and a narrow build may be as close as you can get.

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I've been trying to put together a more fancy name for an arcane and academic organization, but my Jistka (Latin) is crap.

Azure Astra Arcanum - Trying for something along the lines of "mystery of the blue stars", as in "where are the stars when the sky is blue?" They're always there, just unseen.
I hope we're slightly more competent than the Unseen University, though. :P

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

Kevin C Jenkins wrote:


Azure Astra Arcanum - Trying for something along the lines of "mystery of the blue stars", as in "where are the stars when the sky is blue?" They're always there, just unseen.
I hope we're slightly more competent than the Unseen University, though. :P

Well on friday we can put the new college/guild/subgroup forward to see interest and then pool names. Astra Arcanum sounds pretty good though.

Lifedragn wrote:

Maybe a bit late to the table, but a single name across multiple games would be wonderful. You just need to pick something generic that suits the purpose. In our case: Defending good and vanquishing evil - thus you get...

The Empyrean Guard.

If a decision is already made, then so be it.

We are going to try to finalize our name during the friday meeting.

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