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Umm I know we have information on the Subgroups posted by Keovar in the thread. As for something like an Introductory I don't think we have made one. Also I have to find the ranking information. So I can put in the new ranks and put if forward for approval at the next meeting.
As of now I was mostly trying to come up with a better name for the Silver Blades. The House of Steel was mostly a placeholder because I was having trouble naming it. So far I have been tossing around The Steel/Bladed Legion or something. I think when I hit the right name it should just feel good.
Other than that how is everyone doing? We got the meet and greet on Saturday as a reminder.
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[Editor's Note: For lack of a better place to put it, here's a rough draft background for Alantia. -- Drakhan]
I just had to get away from it all. After all, the succession would end up with my elder brother in the end. When you’re the youngest of eight, you don’t have to worry about inheriting lands. Not in my family, at least. That’s why I’m here, asking to join the Empyrean Order. I need to make a name for myself away from the petty squabbles that have bogged down the rest of my family. I’m afraid it may get uglier than I’d like.
Surely you want some background information on me before you accept my application, so I’ll start with my curriculum vitae. I am Lady Alantia Nightfall of the Korvosa Nightfalls, a minor noble family. If you’re curious about my look, I’m half Chelaxian, half Varisian. No, no, that’s a story for another time. Anyhow, I grew up wanting for nothing material. I always felt a little at odds with my family since they were such sticklers for rules . . . even if people got hurt. But I was always treated well and made sure to treat our few servants well. Some of my brothers weren’t so kind.
I irritated my instructors by never really sticking with one course of study. As a noble, you’re expected to know much and be able to do much, but normally one will settle into a military role, or one will become a wizard, or something of the like. I was particularly resistant to such urging and nudging; I wanted to do it all. I’ve been trained in everything you might ask of an “adventurer.” I’ve trained in the sword, I’ve trained in enchantments, I’ve trained in sleight-of-hand, and I’ve trained in healing. Add to that my hours of tutelage in the realm of history, stories, and song.
The first thing that truly threw my family for a spin was when I decided to go to an acting college and spent several months training under an acting troupe. After that, I . . . disappeared for a few months. I’d prefer not to detail all of what I may or may not have done during that time in such a . . . public forum, but let’s say I did some work transcribing legal documents. Perfectly legitimate, I assure you.
If I were to claim a trade, I would claim the title bard, for I am a weaver of tales. It is not my only talent, as I have mentioned, but it is my favorite. Perhaps when you have more time -- for I am sure you do have work to attend to -- l can regale you with the story of my journey here from Korvosa.
So what brings me to the Empyrean Order, then? A sense of rebellion, I suppose. I mentioned that I hail from Korvosa. If you're familiar with the town you already know it is more concerned with whether you follow the law than if the laws are just. Maybe it's just my Varisian blood, but that just doesn't sit well with me. I alluded to it earlier, but my family is perfectly content with the status quo there. When I heard there was an organization dedicated to helping those in need and protecting the River Kingdoms from tyranny, I had to investigate.
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The silver blades could always be The Empyrean Guard - it was earlier noted that Guard was too militaristic a term for the entire group. If that is the case, it might suit well to The Silver Blades. I've also seen Argent thrown about. The Argent Guard. Not the group I seek to subscribe to, so I don't have much stake in their name. I just like the term 'Guard' for a military force. It implies a protective stance to battle. The desire to destroy evil is not rooted in aggression and personal satisfaction, it is to safeguard that which is good in the world.
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Guard, Sentinels, Defenders.
A couple ideas:
The Argent Sentinels (Silver Blades)
Argent, of course, means silver, which would partially explain why they're called Silver Blades even though their real weapons aren't necessarily made of silver.
The Seraphic Commission on Diplomacy and Hospitality (White Staves)
I feel it deserves a more longwinded title and Commission to me asked for something to follow it.
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I do not know of many long-winded military orders, so something that gets straight to the point makes sense. The Knights Templar. The Knights of Malta. The Wing of St. Michael. The Order of Montessa. Etc..
Personally I think The Seraphic Commision on Diplomacy and Hospitality is going overboard. So maybe it is just a conflict of opinions.
I would put these thoughts on our boards, but currently awaiting registration approval.
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The orders of chivalry in Great Britain are the reason I think it deserves such. Examples: "The Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George," "The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire," and "The Most Honourable Military Order of the Bath."
Edit: Besides, diplomats like to talk.
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I do not know of many long-winded military orders, so something that gets straight to the point makes sense. The Knights Templar. The Knights of Malta. The Wing of St. Michael. The Order of Montessa. Etc..
Personally I think The Seraphic Commision on Diplomacy and Hospitality is going overboard. So maybe it is just a conflict of opinions.
I would put these thoughts on our boards, but currently awaiting registration approval.
I am waiting for Andius to approve the boards before I start allowing you folks to post. I do not want to have to go in and move a bunch of things around if it can be helped. I hope he comes on soon and has a look. Once that happens and he is happy, you guys can post to you little hearts content. =)
Valinar
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Boasting? Deliberating? Bah! What a waste of time. We need action and valor! I've lived the better part of a century waiting for a Kingdom such as this to come around and I'll be a bearded gnome if I will let it get bogged down in nonsense. So may the Orcs flee in our wake and the goblin-kin cower in their holes, Clan Battleborn marches for the River Kingdoms!
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With haste the cities of man are built. And with haste they are destroyed. Defending them can often be a worthwhile task. But it can often result in being targeted as well, leaving two destroyed cities instead of one. Risks must be weighed and considerations of the best future given due respect.
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I do not know of many long-winded military orders, so something that gets straight to the point makes sense. The Knights Templar. The Knights of Malta. The Wing of St. Michael. The Order of Montessa. Etc..
Personally I think The Seraphic Commision on Diplomacy and Hospitality is going overboard. So maybe it is just a conflict of opinions.
I would put these thoughts on our boards, but currently awaiting registration approval.
I am waiting for Andius to approve the boards before I start allowing you folks to post. I do not want to have to go in and move a bunch of things around if it can be helped. I hope he comes on soon and has a look. Once that happens and he is happy, you guys can post to you little hearts content. =)
Valinar
I'll wait until I can look at on my computer. Don't want to approve anything from an iPhone browser.
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With haste the cities of man are built. And with haste they are destroyed. Defending them can often be a worthwhile task. But it can often result in being targeted as well, leaving two destroyed cities instead of one. Risks must be weighed and considerations of the best future given due respect.
I truly wish you luck in your empire of no cities while your land is overrun by your enemies. You must defend your land and lead the charge in retalliation lest your enemies seize upon your weakness and inaction! I sincerely hope your deliberation is good at making swords and plowshares while we wait for you to decide to catch up.
-- Alantia Nightfall, Bard
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Never was it said our own lands would be left undefended. You seem to have misconstrued my initial message. Our words are spent on thoughtful consideration, not upon boastful statements that are useless at the end of the day. No enemy would give pause just because you have a lengthy name. But they would pause if you have taken the time to form convincing arguments to draw allies to your cause. Do not underestimate the power of a plan well-thought.
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Valor is well and good. But we must take the time to set proper foundations and build for longevity. That requires painstaking planning and organizing. We do not want dirt paths lined with mud huts. We want beautiful vistas designed to please and protect!
Foundations and longevity, you best remember who your speaking to elf. The Dwarven race is ancient and forged from the stone of the earth itself. We create mighty citadels not "Mud Huts". To say such borders on the edge of blasphemy in the eyes of Torag. Watch us build a fortress while you decide what colors match for your precious view.
((OOC: Ah haven't Rp'd on a forum in a while))
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Of course. History has many an example of empires that crumbled due to poorly conceived plans. I was getting the impression that you desired to let cities fall due to inaction while you sat with your thought deliberating how to shorten a name. In concern of said name, we humans only live but so long compared to elven longevity, so why begrudge the happiness we sometimes derive from our boasts?
-- Alantia Nightfall, Bard
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I like Argent Guard, or Argent Sentinels... the "Silver Blades" bit, like the other colloquial nicknames, is based on the group's insignia, but yeah, the formal name's use of 'Argent' may be why the blade symbol is called 'Silver' when it's most likely steel.
I really hope PFO will let us make custom insignia, flags, and other heraldry. City of Heroes gave some small measure of personal symbols, but a system to mix'n'match multiple different symbols, patterns, and colours would be great (even if all of the evil groups and half of the good ones are likely to use a lot of black and skull symbols).
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I would not begrudge a little happiness, but might warn against pride and vanity. Such boasts may build up the person claiming them, but they can leave a sour impression upon those who must repetitively listen to introductions.
I find words offer much more happiness when worked into a fanciful song or story. Surely such things require more words, but they can impact infinitely more souls. The words in such form are less exclusive.
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Ah, but how many a story are the result of the impetuousness and vigor of the human race? How many times do these boasts lead to events worthy of recounting by the fire? I assure you they are many. I enjoy the boast for where it leads and what stories may arise after.
-- Alantia Nightfall, Bard
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Question: would this group support a Dwarf Paladin who is not into violence except for self-defense (i.e. doesn't look for trouble) but is into crafting / weapon construction? [I'm not much of a PVPer - my reaction time is nil) And if this is not a good choice, could you point me at a group that might be?
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Question: would this group support a Dwarf Paladin who is not into violence except for self-defense (i.e. doesn't look for trouble) but is into crafting / weapon construction? [I'm not much of a PVPer - my reaction time is nil) And if this is not a good choice, could you point me at a group that might be?
I am going to be a Dwarven Paladin. If your a Paladin of Torag that seems like a completely reasonable character. I mean my Character Rojak Battleborn will be a bit more aggressive in the way he protects the kingdom but, I am sure you would be welcome. We have a subgroup called The Golden Scales specifically for those more interested in trading and being craftsmen. Being in the formal military is optional.
What about the Badass Soldiers Federation. Also known as the BSF.
Lol while we may be BA I think we need a more formal name. Thanks for the input tho.
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I am going to be a Dwarven Paladin. If your a Paladin of Torag that seems like a completely reasonable character. I mean my Character Rojak Battleborn will be a bit more aggressive in the way he protects the kingdom but, I am sure you would be welcome. We have a subgroup called The Golden Scales specifically for those more interested in trading and being craftsmen. Being in the formal military is optional.
Torag is a possibility. I was also thinking Sarenrae. (I would really like to try Paladin/Oracle but I don't think Oracle is going to be an option for a while. Also, I'm not sure how it would actually work in an MMO vs PnP). I really like exploring and gathering as well as crafting, but I'm less than skilled (ie. suck) at combat. I'm not sure those activities are feasible, given the structure of the game.
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There will be exploring for sure. I know once the game starts I will be putting a request in with our Explorer's League to find some mithril. I want to be a miner as well as warrior. So gathering might be a bit different in some cases. Crafting will be a large part of the game as well.
As for your Deity Torag is the Father of Dwarves & Creation(Crafting) and Sarenrae lends more to healing and redemption. So you have alot of time to figure that out. I copied over a summary of our subgroups on our forums under your question.
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Well, I like the combat role of healer/fighter, the adventuring role of explorer with some gatherer and the at home role of crafter. I think all of those should be feasible, given time. I wouldn't mind some actual RP as well - I'll be interested to see how that is actually supported by the game.
As a character background, I see him as an old dwarf who feels (wrongly) that he is of no use to his clan - that the young folk now can do what he did, but better. So he has left and is looking for some place where he can be of use.
Evil needs to be stopped, but he's not sure he can be any help - but is willing to try. He's older and a bit slower and tends to think before taking any action. We'll see how it works out.
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Question: would this group support a Dwarf Paladin who is not into violence except for self-defense (i.e. doesn't look for trouble) but is into crafting / weapon construction? [I'm not much of a PVPer - my reaction time is nil) And if this is not a good choice, could you point me at a group that might be?
Your character sounds like he would be a great White Staff or Golden Scale.
White Staves are a group within the Empyrean Order dedicated to helping people and outreaching to the community. Golden Scales are our trade organization dedicated to crafting, trade, and all other economic centered activities.
The Empyrean Order does accept non military focused characters, and even pacifists. Think of us less a military organization, and more as a nation with a strong military. You don't have to be a part of our military just to contribute.
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(OOC: I very much like the "Argent Guard" name "Legion" or "Cohort" could do as well. There are alot of things that could be done at a lower level ("Dragoons, Lancers, Hussars, etc") but I actualy like "Guard" or "Legion" as they are not descriptive of a specific troop type just a general force, which seems to fit more accurately)
IC: "Bah! Who has time for words or the planning of Empires when there are foes to be hewn down and our swords stand unstained with blood? Do we live forever? No! But our deed's may. Wade into the enemy! Let him feel the bite of steel! Stand or fall, you will have carved out a place for yourself in the Halls of your Fathers! None can escape thier Doom, but a Man with a sword in his hand and the courage to use it may do some good in this world ere that day comes!"
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Been talking a bit about the name over on other forums, the Argent Legion doesn't sound bad. I am going to keep thinking though. Just not trying to make it sound like a military when it’s not or formal military. It's more of a place for people who want to fight and be the muscle of the order when it comes to daily things. I suspect many members will be in the formal military though.