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The economy, race relations, foreign affairs just to name a few have seriously gotten worse under his watch.

People are talking about topics that distract us from the real problems facing our nation.

President Obama in my opinion cares more about his re-election than doing the right thing for the USA.

Where are you Mr. President? We need a statesman NOT a politician.

Signed,
A first generation American citizen.

Liberty's Edge

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Aretas wrote:

The economy, race relations, foreign affairs just to name a few have seriously gotten worse under his watch.

People are talking about topics that distract us from the real problems facing our nation.

President Obama in my opinion cares more about his re-election than doing the right thing for the USA.

Where are you Mr. President? We need a statesman NOT a politician.

Signed,
A first generation American citizen.

Seriously? Were you around in late 2007.


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Have you not been paying attention, one speech a week for the last 3 months and weekly whitehouse broadcasts. If you're only watching the 24 hour news networks you might have missed them because for some reason the news networks don't broadcast everything he says.

All statistics show that all of your concerns, (economy, race relations, foreign affairs) have gotten better since Obama was elected. So what exactly is your proof that things have gotten worse since Bush was in office? Gut feelings and talking points from the 24 hour News networks don't count.

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I'd like to see your contention that foreign affiars haven't done anything but improve since Mr. "My Way Or the HighWay" Cowboy Bush left office. We actually are talking TO our allies as opposed to talking down to them, a strategy that was pretty much noted for failing a lot more than suceeding.

As far as the economy goes. That's the responsibility of the whole of Washington, perhaps the real question is what's Congress been doing given that the new strategy these days is simply to make sure that every Obama initative never gets off the ground as getting him out of office seems to be a much higher priority among the Republicans than actually getting things fixed up.

I like this one..

"President Obama in my opinion cares more about his re-election."

Thanks to the fact that the Supreme Court has pretty much blown any restraint on campaign spending out the window, the average Congressman, both Senate and the House spends a good chunk of his day working in a call center to drum up contributions for the next campaign. This is every day of their work week.

If you could prove that statement, that would make him no different than EVERY resident of the Hill. Every President has one project that they've made their prime focus. For Obama, it's been health care.


He's having lunch with Carmen Sandiego

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All I have to say is... He's done More and better in 4 years than GW Bush did in his 8.

Remember Bushie screw the economy up royally in 8 years. I'm sorry but it takes more than 4 to get it back on track. And in 4 years things HAVE gotten better not worse

He has tried to get us out of 2 wars Bushie started, and kept us out of more like Iran, Korea, Syria, Egypt, Libya (well for the most part Libya at least we did not send troops there to break up that mess)

And no, while he is not perfect, I cannot remember 1 single president that has been alive since I was born (JFK was the first) That was perfect, he sure as all heck is better than Bushie and Chaney

IF you think you can do better, then go start campaigning for the job yourself


I'm a sergeant in Obama's Citizen Army. Once he becomes president for life, we'll be coming around confiscating guns and shipping Christians to FEMA camps for work therapy and reeducation.

Accept your new overlords, if you know what's good for you.


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I don't understand this thread. Obama is Bush; viewed from a policy standpoint, they are one and the same person, with a suntan and some speech lessons to bypass that pesky 2-term limit. Debating how one is better or worse than the other is like debating which of two ticks you'd like to drink your blood.


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I'm sorry you feel that way, Mr. Gersen.


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Kirth Gersen wrote:
I don't understand this thread. Obama is Bush; viewed from a policy standpoint, they are one and the same person, with a suntan and some speech lessons to bypass that pesky 2-term limit. Debating how one is better or worse than the other is like debating which of two ticks you'd like to drink your blood.

In a world where little details didn't matter, and we could choose between better and best, we might be able to get away with running down the old "all career politicians are evil tools" trail - a trail, I might add, that is as old, stale, and boring as a dust-clogged cobweb in an empty attic, and has yet to contribute anything at all constructive to the discussion.

However, we live in a world where the Devil is in the details, and where we must choose between evils and semi-evils, and live with some things we don't like in order to get the ones we do. In this world - the REAL world - Bush was a bully and a man of limited intellect, who never questioned his bad decisions, and consequently never learned from his mistakes. He alienated the people on the other side of the aisle and killed the good will built up behind him with all manner of bad decisions. His second-in-command regularly exceeded his authority and usurped the authority of the Commander In Chief, with no repercussions, and to his own economic gain, and that of his cronies. Constitutional power was exceeded, and bad decisions pushed through, through a constant mantra of fear and hatred. The rich got richer, the poor got poorer, and the middle class suffered. A giant surplus was turned into an enormous deficit through implementation of bad laws, which we still must live with, and two wars were started, one of which was totally unjustified, and broke the country while making corporations - all to which the Executive Branch was beholden, very rich.

Obama's big mistake has mainly been in trying to work with the people across the aisle, whose positions have been stocked by angry and bigoted voters with exactly the same people who will refuse to work with a black president, or even just a Democratic one. Meanwhile, the career politicians in Washington continue to resist any change Obama attempts, for the same bad reasons Bush made all of his lunkheaded decisions - corporate interest and the maintaining of the status quo. As for the man himself, he has demonstrated an ability to learn from mistakes, and is trying hard to keep the middle class from vanishing. His methods may be longterm and difficult - AS THE MAN STATED DURING HIS ACCEPTANCE SPEECH.

None of this is made up or exaggerated. Anybody over the age of 18 who has been paying attention since Clinton left office and has a Wisdom of 10 should have seen for themselves what a bitter, lie-filled stenchfest politics has become, and who is actually trying to help (very few, but including Obama), and who just didn't ever give a crap (Bush/Cheney all the way, baby, yeah!).

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I think he said he was going out for donuts, but he was wearing blue pants, a red and white striped shirt and a blue beret, so you may have difficulty locating him.


BigNorseWolf wrote:

He's having lunch with Carmen Sandiego

I think he was standing next to Waldo.

Liberty's Edge

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Aretas wrote:

The economy, race relations, foreign affairs just to name a few have seriously gotten worse under his watch.

People are talking about topics that distract us from the real problems facing our nation.

President Obama in my opinion cares more about his re-election than doing the right thing for the USA.

Where are you Mr. President? We need a statesman NOT a politician.

Signed,
A first generation American citizen.

I don’t think Obama checks these messageboards much.

Liberty's Edge

Kirth Gersen wrote:
I don't understand this thread. Obama is Bush; viewed from a policy standpoint, they are one and the same person, with a suntan and some speech lessons to bypass that pesky 2-term limit. Debating how one is better or worse than the other is like debating which of two ticks you'd like to drink your blood.

Suntan?


I should say, in all seriousness, that I hate Obama, too.

Probably not for the same reasons as Citizen Aretas, but, still.

I am over 18, I have been paying attention since the Clinton administration, but I do have a pretty low Wisdom score.

Vive le Galt!


Can you perhaps outline

1) the problem
2) What Obama did do about it
3) What Obama should have done about it


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Let me give you an example of how you critique a politician.

-Obama continued the bailouts from under the bush administration without adding any preconditions about bonuses or golden parachutes.

-Obama didn't stop the fed from loaning companies out money at a lower interest rate than the government bonds

- Despite campaigning in the democratic primaries against the individual mandate, he signed it into law.

-Re healthcare: With a democratic house, a democratic senate, and himself a democratic president he managed to pass... the 1996 republican health care plan without even including the public option.

-Executed an American citizen via predator drone without a trial.

See how easy that is?

1) Specific actions, not a general sense or a judge of character.

2) Actions where the president could have done something to change the outcome . You do not blame a president for the weather because they're not president of the weather.

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