Umbral Draconic Bloodline (negative energy)?


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Hi,

1) Is the Draconic Bloodline restricted to the metallic and chromatic dragons, or could the Umbral dragon be chosen?

2) Would it be overpowered?

3) Would the breath weapon give negative energy, damage dice as the others, or mimmic the Umbral dragon more closely, meaning strength damage and sicken?

4) Would the +1 pr damage die apply to spells that deal negative energy damage?

5) Would it be Cool n' Awesome (tm), or Cheasy Munchkinism?

6) would it be RAW, RAI, or Houseruled.


Breath is Blinding, not sickening, sorry.


Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

1. Generally the Draconic Bloodline is limited to metalics/chromatics, though there is a variation for Linnorms (still elemental based).

2. It might be, it kind of depends on the situation. It would be strong in a campaign where there weren't many undead, but very weak in an undead focused campaign (because negative energy would heal).

3. I would say just have it do negative energy damage. Possibly lessen the damage dice to d4s... since non elemental attacks are generally considered superior.

4. I would say so. Edit: Though, the problem is there aren't many negative energy spells.

5. Personally, I think such an archetype would be pretty cool.

6. This would definitely a homebrew(houserule) bloodline. If you want to go with something closer to the core rules, I would say go with the umbral or shadow bloodines. They aren't dragon bloodlines, but might give you the theme you want without going into homebrew territory. Another option would be to use Crossblooded and go for a combo of a cold dragon bloodline and shadow/umbral.


In 3.5 I believe the Draconomicon went into detail about half-dragons of non-metalic/chromatic dragons one of which was shadow. If I remember correctly.

In PF officialy speaking you can only choose the dragons provided but your DM might be able to work something out, like droping the die size by 1 with the energy claws and breath weapon.

There's not a lot of Sorc. spells that deal negative energy, Chill touch is all I can think of at the momment.

-Flash


Pathfinder Adventure, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber
Captain Moonscar wrote:
There's not a lot of Sorc. spells that deal negative energy, Chill touch is all I can think of at the momment.

I forgot about that detail. In that case, if you were going to go with an umbral dragon bloodline theme... I would say just have the +1 work with cold damage. Cold and Shadow tend to go together thematically.


Thanks a lot :-)


Someone did make an Umbral Dragon Bloodline around here in the forums.

Not sure where it was, but should be found in my faves.


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Wow. At first, I seriously thought you were talking about my homebrewed bloodline (which I think Icyshadow is referring to). You can use this as is, or use it as a base for something of your own creation. Instead of dealing with only negative energy, the theme is also illusions, shadows, and necromancy spells.

Umbral Draconic Sorcerer:

Class Skill: Stealth.
Bonus Spells: silent image (3rd), darkness (5th), fly (7th), enervation (9th), true seeing (11th), shadow walk (13th), project image (15th), form of the dragon III (17th), shades (19th).
Bonus Feats: Blind-Fight, Dodge, Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Silent Spell, Skill Focus (Fly), Stealthy, Toughness.
Bloodline Arcana: Whenever you cast a necromancy spell that deals hit point damage, that spell deals +1 point of damage per die rolled. If the necromancy spell bestows an amount of ability score damage, ability score drain, or negative levels, the amount increases by 1. If the spell deals ability score damage or drain to multiple ability scores, all of the ability scores are affected.
Bloodline Powers: The power of umbral dragons flows through you and manifests in a number of different ways.
Claws (Su): Starting at 1st level, you can grow claws as a free action. These claws are treated as natural weapons allowing you to make two claw attacks as a full attack action using your full base attack bonus. Each of these attacks deal 1d4 points of damage plus your Strength modifier (1d3 if you are Small). At 5th level, these claws are treated as if they have the ghost touch weapon property. At 7th level, the damage increases by one step to 1d6 points of damage (1d4 if you are Small). At 11th level, these claws deal an additional 1d6 points of negative energy damage on a successful hit. This negative energy does not heal undead creatures. You can use your claws for a number of rounds per day equal to 3 + your Charisma modifier.
Dragon Resistances (Ex): At 3rd level, you gain negative energy resistance 5 and a +1 natural armor bonus. At 9th level, you gain negative energy resistance 10 and your natural armor bonus increases to +2. At 15th level, your natural armor bonus increases to +4.
Breath Weapon (Su): At 9th level, you gain a breath weapon. This breath weapon is a 30-foot cone that deals 1d6 points of negative energy damage per sorcerer level. Those caught in the area of the breath receive a Reflex save for half damage. The DC of this save is equal to 10 + 1/2 your sorcerer level + your Charisma modifier. At 9th level, you can use this ability once per day. At 17th level, you can use this ability twice per day. At 20th level, you can use this ability three times per day. This negative energy does not heal undead creatures.
Wings (Su): At 15th level, leathery dragon wings grow from your back as a standard action, giving you a fly speed of 60 feet with average maneuverability. You can dismiss them as a free action.
Umbral Scion (Su): At 20th level, your umbral draconic heritage becomes manifest. You gain immunity to negative energy (including associated negative levels, ability damage, ability drain, etc.) and death effects. You also gain blindsense 60 feet.


I actually was referring to that :3


Yay! I feel like I (and my GM, who helped) should do this for the rest of the primal dragons, too.


submit2me wrote:
Yay! I feel like I (and my GM, who helped) should do this for the rest of the primal dragons, too.

Definitely! And maybe for the imperial dragons, too, if you're cool.

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