Double-Barreled Pistol Clarification

[JackTCR]

My apologies if this has been asked before(I can only imagine it has), but digging through the archives, I only found this Designer note that seemed to answer my question. However, it is from the playtest.

PFSRD wrote:

This pistol has two parallel barrels; each barrel can be fired independently as a separate action, or both can be shot at once with the same action.

If both barrels are shot at once, they must both target the same creature or object, and the pistol becomes wildly inaccurate, imparting a –4 penalty on each shot.

1. The designer clarification in that thread indicated the idea of two rolls per attack, one for each barrel. Has this been errata'd or updated, or is this still true?

2. Unlike say Rapid Shot, firing both barrels does not indicate that the -4 would apply to all shots fired in the same Full Attack action. Where Rapid shot specifically says "All of your attack rolls take a –2 penalty when using Rapid Shot.", the text on the Double Barreled Pistol only says "If both barrels are shot at once, they must both target the same creature or object, and the pistol becomes wildly inaccurate, imparting a –4 penalty on each shot." Does this mean that if making a full attack, only the two barrels firing at the same time are at that -4?

Or, in game terms, say a Gunslinger has a BAB of +6/+1. Would firing both barrels on the first attack make his routine +2/+2/+1, or would the -4 apply to all attacks to make it +2/+2/-3.

[Tom Baumbach]

+2/+2/+1

[Maxximilius]

JackTCR wrote:

1. The designer clarification in that thread indicated the idea of two rolls per attack, one for each barrel. Has this been errata'd or updated, or is this still true?

There has been no further clarification. The easiest and simplest way to treat DB weapons it is to consider each shot made with both barrels as the first attack of a bow made with Manyshot : one attack roll, two bullets - so you can only critical hit or misfire once per shot.

On a critical hit with a double barelled deadshot, if you are able to confirm the crit despite the -9 total penalty, both shots crit. It will not happen often, it costs grit, it is worse than a full-attack and it is cool, so why not.

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2. Unlike say Rapid Shot, firing both barrels does not indicate that the -4 would apply to all shots fired in the same Full Attack action. Where Rapid shot specifically says "All of your attack rolls take a –2 penalty when using Rapid Shot.", the text on the Double Barreled Pistol only says "If both barrels are shot at once, they must both target the same creature or object, and the pistol becomes wildly inaccurate, imparting a –4 penalty on each shot." Does this mean that if making a full attack, only the two barrels firing at the same time are at that -4?

Or, in game terms, say a Gunslinger has a BAB of +6/+1. Would firing both barrels on the first attack make his routine +2/+2/+1, or would the -4 apply to all attacks to make it +2/+2/-3.

Actually it would be +2/+1. Only the double tap attack suffers the -4 penalty.

[nicklas Læssøe]

If we look at the sentence below,

"If both barrels are shot at once, they must both target the same creature or object, and the pistol becomes wildly inaccurate, imparting a –4 penalty on each shot. "

Then they say -4 penalty to each shot, each being the keyword. This definately means that both of the shots fired will get the penalty, meaning that you need to roll twice for attack rolls. Another way to see this, is that the gun simply states that you shoot twice, thus all normal rules for how shooting once, also applies to the second attack. Otherwise they would need to specify something special about this alternate attack.

We can then also argue if each shot, covers each shot fired simultaniously, or each shot fired by the gun. Ie if the penalty will persist to the other attacks in the round. My own interpretation is that they will, but that is purely a guess.