Most medium and heavy armor come with gauntlets. If your armor is adamantine or mithral, does that impart weapon qualities of adamantine and alchemical silver to the gauntlets included with the armor?
Can armor be made out of cold iron or alchemical silver? (the entries for those materials in the CRB do not mention armor) Can you wear gauntlets made of a different material with a suit of armor which normally includes gauntlets, and if so, does the armor lose the armor special quality imparted by the special material, because it is no longer a complete set?
Finally, does a combatant wearing gauntlets still provoke attacks of opportunity when making an unarmed strike if they do not have the improved unarmed strike feat? - The weapon entry for Gauntlet says "This metal glove lets you deal lethal damage rather than nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes. A strike with a gauntlet is otherwise considered an unarmed attack." This says that other than doing lethal damage, an attack with a gauntlet is considered an unarmed strike - which normally provokes attacks of opportunity.
If your armor is adamantine or mithral, does that impart weapon qualities of adamantine and alchemical silver to the gauntlets included with the armor?
I don't see why not.
Can armor be made out of cold iron or alchemical silver?
I'm not sure. But it would be cheaper just to buy the cold iron or Alchemical Silver gauntlet.
Can you wear gauntlets made of a different material with a suit of armor which normally includes gauntlets, and if so, does the armor lose the armor special quality imparted by the special material, because it is no longer a complete set?
The gauntlets are irrelevant. They don't provide an AC bonus. You can take them off and throw them away if you don't want them. You could replace them with better gauntlets, or spiked gauntlets, or whatever.
Finally, does a combatant wearing gauntlets still provoke attacks of opportunity when making an unarmed strike if they do not have the improved unarmed strike feat?
Yeah, unless/until they change it.
There's currently discussion over gauntlet-like weapons (spiked gauntlet, cestus, brass knuckles, etc.) where SKR (I think) said they should all be treated as standard weapons, and not be related to unarmed strikes at all.
Most medium and heavy armor come with gauntlets. If your armor is adamantine or mithral, does that impart weapon qualities of adamantine and alchemical silver to the gauntlets included with the armor?
Not 100% sure, I would say yes. It is a weapon, made of that material. It would be regular silver though, not alchemical. Mithral is not the same as alchemical... semantics...
Can armor be made out of cold iron or alchemical silver? (the entries for those materials in the CRB do not mention armor)
If the CRB doesn't mention armor in the pricing it usually cannot be done under the RAW. I houserule that you can make Tower Shields out of metal so they can be Mithral tower shields. RAW Towershields are wooden and bucklers are always metal.
Can you wear gauntlets made of a different material with a suit of armor which normally includes gauntlets, and if so, does the armor lose the armor special quality imparted by the special material, because it is no longer a complete set?
The RAW is silent on this but I would assume as long as you procured other gauntlets you should be fine. The gauntlets from the set are likely detatchable.
Finally, does a combatant wearing gauntlets still provoke attacks of opportunity when making an unarmed strike if they do not have the improved unarmed strike feat? - The weapon entry for Gauntlet says "This metal glove lets you deal lethal damage rather than nonlethal damage with unarmed strikes. A strike with a gauntlet is otherwise considered an unarmed attack." This says that other than doing lethal damage, an attack with a gauntlet is considered an unarmed strike - which normally provokes attacks of opportunity.
Yes, it provokes. See Spiked Gauntlet. You are not considered armed with a regular gauntlet.
Ok, so if you take Improved Unarmed Strike, can you take Weapon Focus(unarmed strike) and Weapon Focus(gauntlet), and have them stack? Same for Weapon Specialisation and Fighter's Weapon Training?
I know this is cheese, but is it RAW cheese?
Ok, so if you take Improved Unarmed Strike, can you take Weapon Focus(unarmed strike) and Weapon Focus(gauntlet), and have them stack?
I think technically you're either attacking with an unarmed strike, or attacking with the gauntlet. Either way, you're making an unarmed attack, and either way the gauntlet lets you deal lethal damage.
(Hopefully this will all be irrelevant once they fix the unarmed-style weapons.)
Ok, so if you take Improved Unarmed Strike, can you take Weapon Focus(unarmed strike) and Weapon Focus(gauntlet), and have them stack?I think technically you're either attacking with an unarmed strike, or attacking with the gauntlet. Either way, you're making an unarmed attack, and either way the gauntlet lets you deal lethal damage.
(Hopefully this will all be irrelevant once they fix the unarmed-style weapons.)
So, you're saying that if a character took Weapon Focus(unarmed strike), and attacked with the gauntlet, he could either attack at +1 and do 1d3 damage, or attack without the attack bonus, and do 1d4 damage? He could not get both the attack bonus from Wepaon Focus(unarmed strike), and use the larger damage die of the gauntlet?
So, you're saying that if a character took Weapon Focus(unarmed strike), and attacked with the gauntlet, he could either attack at +1 and do 1d3 damage, or attack without the attack bonus, and do 1d4 damage? He could not get both the attack bonus from Wepaon Focus(unarmed strike), and use the larger damage die of the gauntlet?
A medium gauntlet deals 1d3 damage.
Mostly I just wouldn't allow doubling up on weapon feats.
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You are right, don't know why I thought 1d4. Let me rephrase. If a character took a level of monk, and then took Weapon Focus(gauntlet), would he have to make the choice between +1 attack/1d3 damage and +0 attack/1d6 damage?
You are right, don't know why I thought 1d4. Let me rephrase. If a character took a level of monk, and then took Weapon Focus(gauntlet), would he have to make the choice between +1 attack/1d3 damage and +0 attack/1d6 damage?
IMO yes.
So, in this case, it would mean that if you took Weapon Focus (unarmed strike), and wore +5 adamantine gauntlets, you could not benefit both from the weapon focus attack bonus and the enhancement bonus and special material of the gauntlet?
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So, in this case, it would mean that if you took Weapon Focus (unarmed strike), and wore +5 adamantine gauntlets, you could not benefit both from the weapon focus attack bonus and the enhancement bonus and special material of the gauntlet?
Quite. An attack wtih a gauntlet constitutes an unarmed attack, not an unarmed strike eventhough the text flubs this up and references unarmed strikes. Best I got for you.
An unarmed strike is another specific form of an unarmed attack. At least the way it shakes out in the current rules.
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I am not asking this because I want to use this to abuse the system. I am trying to determine what the RAW is. I think I know what the RAI is, but it just seems like they are at odds, because of the general fuzziness of the unarmed attack/gauntlet/natural attack rules referencing each other poorly.
I really think this is a strong errata candidate.