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Greetings Dazyk.
Here is where prospective members should apply (link to guild website).
If you have any questions for us about who we are, what our goals are, etc., please feel free to ask, here or in our forums.

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Since the seventh veil is now allied with TEO will you restate your alignment away from true neutral and more towards that of good? Several of your stewards stances on bandits would also maybe indicate a move towards lawful?
There have been some discussion about restating our alignment. However, no definite change has been confirmed yet.

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Since the seventh veil is now allied with TEO will you restate your alignment away from true neutral and more towards that of good? Several of your stewards stances on bandits would also maybe indicate a move towards lawful?
And our internal structure is very amorphous, to some - chaotic...
And our willingness to not cringe at researching the "dark arts" is evil...
...so we meet in the middle and be TN.
Honestly though, I think our continued friendship with TEO has more to do with a shared dedication to supporting constructive/intended gameplay as opposed to sharing alignment based ideals.
We are however, always reevaluating our positions based upon mechanics as they are released. We would prefer to allow the truth to influence our decisions as opposed to having our decisions influence our truths...as such, if we find out that once in-game our desired play styles pushes us to the extreme LG...we will probably recognize that as a truth and adapt our decisions and intents logically.

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Nihimon wrote:Kobold Cleaver wrote:Is there a place we can access a list of TSV's Stewards?You can ask here :)
Chibiamy, Decius, Nihimon, Skwiziks, Valkenr.
Five stewards, sevn veils? Which ones are running around unsupervised?!
The Seven Veils are categories of knowledge. As such, they stand on their own without supervision, much as there is no person or group that supervises "Philosophy" in our world. And since they are instruments of knowledge, they do not exist on their own but only as we agree to define them. For this reason, they may change as our knowledge grows. But there are some things which are known...
The Seventh Veil is Mystery, which also encompasses all the others. And the First Mystery is our hidden name (not so hidden): Cærux Khaiognos, the Seekers of True Knowledge. We are the Cæruxi.
We are dedicated not only to discovering the Truth, but also to sharing it. And since the Truth is liberating, there is no more noble purpose to which Liberty may be put than to seek the Truth.

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A TSV (or, Forencith's) stance on our use of "Monsters in the Basement":
While TSV is dedicated to a positive and constructive style of gameplay, our primary purpose has always been and will always remain the development and protection of TSV community. As such, dedication to a specific play style will always be tempered by our recognized needs. If, it is recognized that the fulfillment of our primary purpose(s) will lower our game mechanic tracked Reputation, then we will adjust our Rep expectations/requirements accordingly. No member will be expected, required, or asked to create or play a "Monster in the Basement". TSV accepts full responsibility for its choices and feels no need to partake in the use of tactics to avoid the consequences for which we continue to so fervently fight.
This said, TSV is entirely supportive of the use and enjoyment of alts. We cannot see the logic in creating rules we cannot enforce, therefore members are welcome to keep their alts in-community, or not, as they wish. All characters partaking in the benefits of TSV community will be expected to meet the minimum requirements of TSV membership, including all ROE designed to encourage/promote a positive and constructive style of gameplay.

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Hi everyone.
I'm Kios and I am very curious about your organization.
I like the idea of a place where explorers from all walks of life can sit and rest and enjoy each others' triumphs, as well as the idea of being involved with the ideas of the seventh veil of the goddess Sivanah, who deals with illusions and mystery(though I personally will follow the lead of Irori). I think for both the heavy roleplayers and the casual gamers, your group seems like a good one to be involved with.
I hope if any questions come to mind, you'll find me back at the seventh veil forums so I can answer them.

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I think for both the heavy roleplayers and the casual gamers, your group seems like a good one to be involved with.
Thanks, Kios. We've tried to make The Seventh Veil an appealing choice to a very wide array of players, but you're right that we've taken special care to make sure the ones you mention feel especially welcome. I think Heavy Role Players tend to get squeezed out of a lot of places when their guild isn't specifically dedicated from its inception to carving out a welcoming place for them. And I think Casual Players might feel a little intimidated by a game like PFO if they don't have a large and welcoming support group to help them not only make sense of the game, but also feel safe enough to do the Exploration that I think a lot of them (us?) really enjoy.

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I have to say it's really awesome seeing a lot of old faces from TSV coming out of the woodwork. Our forums are really hopping right now; this is a very exciting time!
We'll be having a pretty important meeting on TeamSpeak tonight at 6:00 PM Central with TEO and any of our other friends who can make it.

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A few questions, if you don't mind, concerning Ambassadors.
We of course receive T7V Avari with our full welcome, and you should fret not that it is a punishment. He will not be abused, and probably not robbed, if we are aware that he is coming our way. ;-)
I feel our best ambassador to T7V and or TEO would be Talon Fox. I leave it open for The Goodfellow, but being that he is an Assassin that might seem a bit odd.
Do you have a preference? I don't mean, who you don't want, that would be taken as an insult and / stab in face will have to ensue.
My preference for ambassador contact between our companies would also be an RP event(s), and could include social, economic and military matters. I'm a bit apprehensive to discuss meta game aspects, but that can be discussed later.
In a pm to Avari, I had mentioned the idea that the major (active) EE company leadership and their ambassadors should meet in a TS server, the week before launch of EE. The purpose of this would be simply a Meet & Greet and perhaps function as a reset (clean the slate) before EE actually launches.
I suspect that forum PvP will give way to playing the game, and the interactions may become very different and probably for the better.

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I consider myself a friend of both TEO and T7V...
Something tells me we're going to need all the friends we can get, although we consider you more than a friend. I'm not saying The Seventh Veil is like Hotel California, but we're not the type to kick folks out just because they didn't have the (probably a little crazy) stamina to stay active for two and a half years waiting for the game to finally be playable :)

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Quite the interesting developments going on =)
My optimistic outlook is that EE will launch first week of 3rd quarter, and hopefully, July 1.
I also see EE as a new phase in PFO development and that includes in building different relations then there may have been these past few months on the forums. Not that the relations have been false during these months, but the agendas are potentially different.

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