Goblin ranger


Advice


I have some ideas for his backstory, he is a caninephile, and a literature loving ranged archer, what should stats be and feats be, I'm thinking of stacking urban ranger and skirmisher and I want to be roguish, I'll take a wolf animal companion I ride as a mount.

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Keeping in mind that goblins in general are incredibly against reading. Is this homebrew, or is he a very weird goblin?


very weird goblin part of my backstory, everything goes against goblins and thats why I'm not part of the goblin clan.


how should I go about skills also?

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What's the point buy? Anyway, feats should be pretty straight forward because archery is very feat intensive. Point-blank Shot followed by Precise Shot and Rapid Shot, Deadly Aim, Weapon Focus, Manyshot, Clustered Shots, and Boon Companion somewhere in there to give your wolf full hit dice. Skills, pick what you like, you'll have plenty. I suppose you'll want a trait that gives Linguistics as a class skill as well. I would avoid the Skirmisher archetype personally, as a ranger's divine magic really comes in handy.


20 pt.


Oh then I might not be a skirmisher


Going to have low str, right? Use the crossbow weapon style, then. Crossbow Master (Heavy Crossbow) at 6 without needing Rapid Reload first is tempting, but I would just spend all the feats to get it normally, Improved Precise Shot at level 6 is just too good a deal to pass up. Check with your Dm if he'll allow crossbow style to access Point Blank Master (IMO, it's purely oversight that it only says archer rangers can take it). If so, you want weapon focus before 10th level so you can take it as your 10th level bonus feat.

Are you set on the wolf? It fine early on, but once you get to level 10 (or level 7, if you take Boon Companion feat) I would go for a Roc. They're just...really good with the level 7 bonuses, and a flying mount is very handy.


I echo the advice given - the little runt should make for an amiable companion (try to squeeze in some fire-related fun).

Ruyan.

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Take a dip in Alchemist and use one of these: Crossbow - Lauching Also, I like the Skrimisher archtype. I have never been a big fan of spell casting Rangers.


StreamOfTheSky wrote:

Going to have low str, right? Use the crossbow weapon style, then. Crossbow Master (Heavy Crossbow) at 6 without needing Rapid Reload first is tempting, but I would just spend all the feats to get it normally, Improved Precise Shot at level 6 is just too good a deal to pass up. Check with your Dm if he'll allow crossbow style to access Point Blank Master (IMO, it's purely oversight that it only says archer rangers can take it). If so, you want weapon focus before 10th level so you can take it as your 10th level bonus feat.

Are you set on the wolf? It fine early on, but once you get to level 10 (or level 7, if you take Boon Companion feat) I would go for a Roc. They're just...really good with the level 7 bonuses, and a flying mount is very handy.

I'm tempted to go for the roc but do most goblins hate birds?

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Goblins hate dogs, horses and books. Goblins can hate other things too if you like, but I've never seen anything specific about birds.


rats ):


but they are ussualy unkind to them yes?


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Theos Imarion wrote:
but they are ussualy unkind to them yes?

Ha ha, yeah. They have a game where they tie a string to a pigeons leg and take turns throwing rocks at it. The one that finally kills it, gets to eat it. Can't remember the name of the game though..

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The goblin can be anything you want. So far you are already going against the writing and dog thing. No reason to say he hasn't added a fear of birds. Especially really big ones.


Jam412 wrote:
Theos Imarion wrote:
but they are ussualy unkind to them yes?
Ha ha, yeah. They have a game where they tie a string to a pigeons leg and take turns throwing rocks at it. The one that finally kills it, gets to eat it. Can't remember the name of the game though..

yes!! Rocs are in the game. any tips on making ranged rangers?


There's been a lengthy discussion about the usefulness of roc as AC somewhere...
Import thing to take into account: what's the campaign going to be like?
If it's mostly about dungeon crawling the roc is more of a burden/near useless; if it's open-country roaming/exploring/adventuring: the roc it is (makes throwing the alchemical fire all the more fun, too)!

Ruyan.

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There's also the amazing goblin dog, although rangers don't get one they can ride until level 7.


wow so this thread did manage to stay alive. *yawn* when do you people sleep?

Yea everyone's pretty much got you covered. Go the crossbow route since you're a goblin. Impact shot Critical is a good feat to look at, since knocking people down with your crossbow can add a bit of battlefield control. Taking the TWF chain (just the three feats for the attacks) can be hilarious since you can dual wield crossbows (albeit at a steep penalty).

If you want to focus on mobility look at vital strike instead of things that focus on a full attack (like multishot and rapid shot). Focus on readying shots to prevent enemy casters from casting or tripping enemy melee while staying mobile (via impact shot crit and a few other critical feats). You won't be doing the most damage but if played right you'll be a valuable party member and will have your share of laughs.

That's pretty much the key, tbh. Roleplay it how you think it should be roleplayed. Rought now I'm imagining a tiny little maniac with two light crossbows riding on a wolf laughing like a little maniac as he unloads bolts all over the battlefield. That image appeals to me and i would enjoy playing him as such. Imho, you need to find a good image of your character that makes you smile, and take the feats accordingly.

Rule #1: always have fun.


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Here check this out for some basics.

Treantmonk's Guide to Rangers

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I wouldn't worry so much about vital strike for a mounted ranger. You can full attack while your mount takes a single move with no penalties, and if you double move the penalty is merely a -4. It's not worth not full attacking.


great if anything comes to mind post please.


Jam I'm planning on using a diffrent guide about making ranged mounted ranger.


thanks though I might combine them to help me


Cavaliers and Samurai are mounted soldiers who you may want to give a try. Frankly, a cavalier seems as un-goblin-like as one might come, and I guess that's what you're going for.

Look at samurai for mounted archery stuff. Basically a cavalier with different options.

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I made a group of goblin cavaliers in my campaign and used:

Order of the Cockatrice

A cavalier who belongs to this order serves only himself, working to further his own aims and increase his own prestige. Cavaliers of this order tend to be selfish and concerned only with personal goals and objectives.


I decided on goblin ranger so I could be a quasi-rogue who dealt damage most of the time


I want only info on making a good sniper ranger. Thanks anyway


should I do 4 lvls. of ninja for fast stealth and wall climbing?


2 levels in Rogue OR Ninja is enough to get a talent/trick, and thus qualify for the Extra Talent feat. No need to put in a full 4 levels to get the 2nd trick.

And I don't think it's necessary. You're going to be mounted, aren't you? What good is being able to sneak fast and climb going to be when you're using another creature's movement stats?


yes, can I use my stealth on a mount?

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