What's a snarky half-elf to do?


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Silver Crusade

THis guy is kinda dificult. This half-elf from Nex graduated from the Quantium University of Magic with high marks and he prides himself on preparedness. Most of the time he prefers to take matters into his own hands and is is willing to handle problems both with arcane and combative skill as well and simply being a great academic...in other words he's a snarky nerd.

Now just gotta know what class to make him. and what skill set to go through. Originally I was going for making him either a Staff Magus/spellblade or a Staff Magus/Soul Forger, however it still feels like it doesn't suit his Jack-of-trades persona properly.

Now here is a list of needs
-still want him using a quarterstaff, so at least a few levels in Staff Magus would be appreciated
-would like to use a lot of TWF
-Would like access to a lot of decent skill points.
-Good for knowledge checks and being the party's local "brain".


That's literally a bard


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pipedreamsam wrote:
That's literally a bard

Agreed. Magician bard maybe, with masterpieces that duplicate some powerful missing spells. Like the one that works as planar ally?

Silver Crusade

KrispyXIV wrote:
pipedreamsam wrote:
That's literally a bard
Agreed. Magician bard maybe, with masterpieces that duplicate some powerful missing spells. Like the one that works as planar ally?

however I still would like the staff magus powers, plus Cha is kinda like a semi-dump stat now, which means that either I have to drop a physical score, or drop Int or Wis, and niether should be lower than 10


Just move around the build a little bit and you can still take the staff feats without the magus it is just going to get delayed until around 7th level for quarterstaff master. If you go bard consider arcane duelist, they kick some serious tail and get medium/heavy armor proficiency's later on (just like a magus, how bout that?)

Silver Crusade

pipedreamsam wrote:
Just move around the build a little bit and you can still take the staff feats without the magus it is just going to get delayed until around 7th level for quarterstaff master. If you go bard consider arcane duelist, they kick some serious tail and get medium/heavy armor proficiency's later on (just like a magus, how bout that?)

hmm, while we're on that subject I have a question: Whiel I know an arcane Duelist's Arcane bond never prevents casting for somatic componants, is that the same with a narmal Wizard's Arcane bond?


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Quintin Belmont wrote:
pipedreamsam wrote:
Just move around the build a little bit and you can still take the staff feats without the magus it is just going to get delayed until around 7th level for quarterstaff master. If you go bard consider arcane duelist, they kick some serious tail and get medium/heavy armor proficiency's later on (just like a magus, how bout that?)
hmm, while we're on that subject I have a question: Whiel I know an arcane Duelist's Arcane bond never prevents casting for somatic componants, is that the same with a narmal Wizard's Arcane bond?

Its supposed to be in the errata any time now.


Quintin Belmont wrote:
pipedreamsam wrote:
Just move around the build a little bit and you can still take the staff feats without the magus it is just going to get delayed until around 7th level for quarterstaff master. If you go bard consider arcane duelist, they kick some serious tail and get medium/heavy armor proficiency's later on (just like a magus, how bout that?)
hmm, while we're on that subject I have a question: Whiel I know an arcane Duelist's Arcane bond never prevents casting for somatic componants, is that the same with a narmal Wizard's Arcane bond?

I do not recall any mention of it in the arcane bond text. I would assume no, otherwise it would not have to be pointed out separately in the arcane duelist text and would have just been added into the arcane bond text in the wizard class.

That was the best I could do to explain it, I apologize if it is not very coherent.


If it was the same they would refer you to arcane bond for wizards.

Silver Crusade

well, i've juststarted looking at different rule question threads to ge some clarification

http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz1uil?Can-you-cast-a-spell-while-wielding-a-bond ed#0

http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz278z?Official-rules-clarification-for-Arcane-Bo nd-and#0

http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz480z?Wielding-a-Bonded-Item-Weapon#9

Also lets take this into account. If a Wizard is using a quarterstaff doesn't that mean he cant cast since it's a TH weapon. Plus If i recal from an Errata that a bonded item can be detected by detect magic since it is infused by the Wizards own magic, so wouldn't that make it a natural conduit for magic and able to be used for somatic componants?


Quintin Belmont wrote:

well, i've juststarted looking at different rule question threads to ge some clarification

http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz1uil?Can-you-cast-a-spell-while-wielding-a-bond ed#0

http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz278z?Official-rules-clarification-for-Arcane-Bo nd-and#0

http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz480z?Wielding-a-Bonded-Item-Weapon#9

Also lets take this into account. If a Wizard is using a quarterstaff doesn't that mean he cant cast since it's a TH weapon. Plus If i recal from an Errata that a bonded item can be detected by detect magic since it is infused by the Wizards own magic, so wouldn't that make it a natural conduit for magic and able to be used for somatic componants?

I wouldn't use a quarterstaff on a Wizard anyway, what with their BAB, unless they were a little bit Wizard and a lot of something else.

Have you considered an Alchemist? That might pretty much fit your concept. And you could buff up your strength with a mutagen and really wreck someones day with that quarterstaff :D.

I was going to make a know-it-all, good for Knowledge checks Alchemist, until I released I would have to wait until 6th level to take Breadth of Experience (+2 to all knowleges and you can use them untrained) since they really need Precise Shot (which needs Point Blank Shot). So I made a Witch instead.

Silver Crusade

wait, here's an idea: What if I multiclassed from a magus into 5 levels of alchemist and gave him the vestigial arm discovery?


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Quintin Belmont wrote:
wait, here's an idea: What if I multiclassed from a magus into 5 levels of alchemist and gave him the vestigial arm discovery?

I prefer hexcrafter w/prehensile hair for that particular trick myself.

Silver Crusade

KrispyXIV wrote:
Quintin Belmont wrote:
wait, here's an idea: What if I multiclassed from a magus into 5 levels of alchemist and gave him the vestigial arm discovery?
I prefer hexcrafter w/prehensile hair for that particular trick myself.

The problem with that is you can't wield a weapon or cast a spell with your hair, plus it is easy to cut.

Plus the vestigial arm would atually be worth it since he's from Nex and no one would question him about it.

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