Beyond Tien Xia: Kitsune, Nagaji, Samsaran, & Wayang


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Now that they have been introduced in the Dragon Empires Gazetteer, can any of these races be found in the Inner Sea region?

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i really want to see stats for a Karakasa Obake, Kogasa Tatara is so cute.


Lord Fyre wrote:
Now that they have been introduced in the Dragon Empires Gazetteer, can any of these races be found in the Inner Sea region?

mmhmm, I'd like to know that too.


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Luminiere Solas wrote:
i really want to see stats for a Karakasa Obake, Kogasa Tatara is so cute.

Ummm... I really don't know what you are talking about. Are those anime characters or something?

Back to the topic at hand, I would like to know the answer to the original poster's questions, as well.

Speaking for myself, I suspect we might find the occasional and rare representatives of those races in the Lands of the Linnorm Kings, Absolom, Jalmeray, and amongst the pirates of the Shackles.

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Lord Fyre wrote:
Now that they have been introduced in the Dragon Empires Gazetteer, can any of these races be found in the Inner Sea region?

Absolutely.

Tengu already ARE found in the Inner Sea region, in fact. The other four races can certainly be found in the Inner Sea Region, but are pretty rare, just as dwarves and halflings and gnomes and half-orcs are pretty rare in Tian Xia. And just as there are tengu in the Inner Sea region, there are elves in the Dragon Empires.

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Luminiere Solas wrote:
i really want to see stats for a Karakasa Obake, Kogasa Tatara is so cute.

Karakasa Obake are the spirits of antique objects. (Kogasa Tatara however appears to be some kind of video game character.)

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Kogasa Tatara is the stage 2 boss from Touhou 12 Undefined Fantastic Object. she was born when an umbrella was abandoned for 100 years and she has a cute habit of attempting to suprise people for attention. in some doujins, she is freuqntly bullied by a Demigoddess Miko by the name of Sanae Kochiya.

Kogasa's Game Profile


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Lord Fyre wrote:
Luminiere Solas wrote:
i really want to see stats for a Karakasa Obake, Kogasa Tatara is so cute.
Karakasa Obake are the spirits of antique objects. (Kogasa Tatara however appears to be some kind of video game character.)

Okay, I knew about Obake, but not the other words/names. Thanks.


I wonder how samsarans would get treated in Mwangi. Immediate horror from people who assume they're just another variety of charau-ka?

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Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
I wonder how samsarans would get treated in Mwangi. Immediate horror from people who assume they're just another variety of charau-ka?

Unlikely. They look human.

The Nagaji might have a problem though.


Lord Fyre wrote:
Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
I wonder how samsarans would get treated in Mwangi. Immediate horror from people who assume they're just another variety of charau-ka?

Unlikely. They look human.

The Nagaji might have a problem though.

I should really wait for my copy to come in the mail before speculating like that. >.<# Look like humans, really? I was expecting something a lot more like Wukong or Hanuman...


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Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:
Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
I wonder how samsarans would get treated in Mwangi. Immediate horror from people who assume they're just another variety of charau-ka?

Unlikely. They look human.

The Nagaji might have a problem though.

I should really wait for my copy to come in the mail before speculating like that. >.<# Look like humans, really? I was expecting something a lot more like Wukong or Hanuman...

You are confusing them with the Vanara, methinks.


Bah! I'm pretty much chomping on the bit now that this book is there. We were getting ready to start Serpent Skull in a few weeks.. One of us wants to play a snake character and Kitsune (from my imagination of them) sounds like a great ninja race.


Yes, Kitsune should be a great ninja race! You effectively save the disguise tricks haha. Wayang could also be great, more sneaky ...
Can´t wait for the pdf. Books always take so terribly long time to europe.


And now they've done it, a reference to Touhou in Pathfinder.

I guess it's time for me to start statting up each and every Touhou character to D&D and make a specific class for them. XD


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Icyshadow wrote:

And now they've done it, a reference to Touhou in Pathfinder.

I guess it's time for me to start statting up each and every Touhou character to D&D and make a specific class for them. XD

What reference to Touhou?


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Kaidan will be releasing a version of Karakasa-obake in our upcoming #30 Haunts for Kaidan, by Trevor H. Gulliver from Rite Publishing - which is the ghostly form of a discarded object (as it is in Japanese folklore). This might make a release for the end of December, otherwise expect it in early January.

Our version is not so 'cute' however, really rather creepy...

Here's a link to the illustration of our karakasa-obake

In Kaidan it's a kind of ghost, not a race (the latter makes no sense to me).

GP


Ashanderai wrote:
Icyshadow wrote:

And now they've done it, a reference to Touhou in Pathfinder.

I guess it's time for me to start statting up each and every Touhou character to D&D and make a specific class for them. XD

What reference to Touhou?

Apologies for poorly phrased statement. The reference was made by a person on this board, not in any actual Pathfinder texts themselves. Either way, it still makes me want to go and stat up some Touhou characters.


Jeff de luna wrote:
Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
Lord Fyre wrote:
Evil Midnight Lurker wrote:
I wonder how samsarans would get treated in Mwangi. Immediate horror from people who assume they're just another variety of charau-ka?

Unlikely. They look human.

The Nagaji might have a problem though.

I should really wait for my copy to come in the mail before speculating like that. >.<# Look like humans, really? I was expecting something a lot more like Wukong or Hanuman...
You are confusing them with the Vanara, methinks.

I guess I am at that. /facepalm


Anyone has the book already?
Some info on the kitsune maybe?


Yeah I totally wish they would have the book on site pdfed already.. My DM is currently trying to get me to play an tiefling priest instead of human cause I'm almost always playing human since a good fuzzy race hasn't been made yet.


Play a halfling guy/girl that wants to be a human prince/princess, take the pass as human feat and disguise most times. Maybe even noone knows youre a halfling. Then go charm or love/lust domain^^


Kitsune
-Stats: +2dex +2cha -2str
-Size: medium
-Speed: 30ft
-Low-light vision
-Change Shape- alterself but one human form same sex as kitsune, +10 racial bonus to disguise self as a human, does alter stats.
-Agile-+2 acrobatics
-Kitsune Magic- +1DC for Enchantment spells, 3/day Dancing Lights if Cha 11+
-Natural Weapon-Bite 1d4

Kitsune can take special feats to improve there change shape ability(in the Primer)


My Gott! A race that is overtly cute (+2cha) that isn't small? I think I am going to make a kitsune healer of some kind now. :D


Ævux wrote:
My Gott! A race that is overtly cute (+2cha) that isn't small? I think I am going to make a kitsune healer of some kind now. :D

Dunno why it won't let me edit.. But what time is today US/Mountain?

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gamer-printer wrote:

Kaidan will be releasing a version of Karakasa-obake in our upcoming #30 Haunts for Kaidan, by Trevor H. Gulliver from Rite Publishing - which is the ghostly form of a discarded object (as it is in Japanese folklore). This might make a release for the end of December, otherwise expect it in early January.

Our version is not so 'cute' however, really rather creepy...

Here's a link to the illustration of our karakasa-obake

In Kaidan it's a kind of ghost, not a race (the latter makes no sense to me).

GP

that "creepy" drawing still looked kind of cute to me. makes me want to play one more.

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Just another Yokai to the pile. Karakasa-obake is just one of many endless cute but kinda creepy Japanese spirit monsters. In this case the Tsukumogami.

Psst...psst...

http://www.obakemono.com/

Enjoy.


Maybe its just me but wouldn't it make more sense for the Kitsune to ya know, have a fox form?

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seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Maybe its just me but wouldn't it make more sense for the Kitsune to ya know, have a fox form?

Actually they can do that with a feat


Just seems odd to me. They are foxes, but do not have a fox form. I think I would change that if I used em.


Would you give tengu a raven form?


No, but they are not the same thing. Look up the lore on both. One is a humanoid( ok 2 )...the other is a fox. Pathfinder gave it an alt form, yet they seem to be human and fox headed human. If it was gonna be a shape shifter it should have a fox form.


Perhaps a racial feat for tengus, kitsunes, etc., which gives the animal form?


That was not the point man. Tengus and Kitsunes are not the same thing and kitsune they made a shapeshift...yet did not give it the form of its name sake as one of those forms.

Its just a really odd call to me.


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seekerofshadowlight wrote:

That was not the point man. Tengus and Kitsunes are not the same thing and kitsune they made a shapeshift...yet did not give it the form of its name sake as one of those forms.

Its just a really odd call to me.

Probably for balancing as a CR 1/3 creature to enable their use as PCs. The Kitsune of folklore of course are really old foxes who learn to walk on their hind legs and later to create an illusion or alternate form that looks human. That version would no doubt be a middling to high CR fey or magical beast.

Depending on your game, the ability to take a tiny animal form might be unbalancing (particularly for Rogues and spellcasters). The Tengu gaining flight would be a problem as well. But I'm speculating based on what James had said about PC races.


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Lord Fyre wrote:
Now that they have been introduced in the Dragon Empires Gazetteer, can any of these races be found in the Inner Sea region?

Absolutely.

Tengu already ARE found in the Inner Sea region, in fact. The other four races can certainly be found in the Inner Sea Region, but are pretty rare, just as dwarves and halflings and gnomes and half-orcs are pretty rare in Tian Xia. And just as there are tengu in the Inner Sea region, there are elves in the Dragon Empires.

Myself, I figure you should be most likely to find kitsune and nagaji and whatnot in places like Katapesh, Absalom, and Nex, with a few outcasts and runaways in places like Kaer Maga and the River Kingdoms.


My kitsune comes from that nomadic gypsy tribe.


Kitsune in Pathfinder Online, please!


Ævux wrote:
My kitsune comes from that nomadic gypsy tribe.

You mean your kitsune is a Varisian?


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Yep.

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Jeff de luna wrote:
Perhaps a racial feat for tengus, kitsunes, etc., which gives the animal form?

This is exactly how they are handling it for Kitsune in the Dragon Empires Primer, they just limited the Gazetteer to the core racial stats. Racial feats and upgrades are more player material, which is what the primer is for.

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The funny thing about the Tengus is I'm pretty damn sure there is a sizable colony of them in the region of the Shackles. Especially if the hints in Serpent's Skull were anything to go by.


For Hengeyokai in Kaidan, we limited the hengeyokai shapechange to a single human form only, as if when changing to human form, you can only appear as one specific person - your human true form. You can't shapechange to any human you want. Also gave them a weakness to cold iron weapons which when struck force shapechanges them into their animal hybrid form.

This way its still a 1/3 CR race with some shapechange ability, and still balanced. Of course there is a hengeyokai racial paragon class that gets more shapechange powers than standard hengeyokai.

It marginalizes shapechange enough not to be over powering.

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Resurrecting a thread.

I'm going to be building a Wayang PC in Pathfindder Society, and I have no darn idea what that's supposed to mean, characterization-wise. They're "miniature magical humanoids" with ties to the plane of shadow, ridiculously ill-proportioned. (This is a race that cannot hug and kiss at the same time.)

What are Wayang names like? What are the hallmarks of Wayang culture? How large is a typical Wayang family? Do males typically grow those enormous pencil-thin moustaches? What do Wayang females look like?

Right now, I'm thinking of shuffling gnomes (substituting "plane of shadow" for "first world") with Polynesian culture.

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Chris Mortika wrote:

Resurrecting a thread.

I'm going to be building a Wayang PC in Pathfindder Society, and I have no darn idea what that's supposed to mean, characterization-wise. They're "miniature magical humanoids" with ties to the plane of shadow, ridiculously ill-proportioned. (This is a race that cannot hug and kiss at the same time.)

What are Wayang names like? What are the hallmarks of Wayang culture? How large is a typical Wayang family? Do males typically grow those enormous pencil-thin moustaches? What do Wayang females look like?

Right now, I'm thinking of shuffling gnomes (substituting "plane of shadow" for "first world") with Polynesian culture.

RW Wayang ("shadow puppets") are from Bali, in Indonesia. I suggest using names and cultural information from Bali to create your character.


I place a fairly considerable population of nagaji(and vishkanya, but that's neither here nor there) in Kaer Maga as a servant caste to the local naga population, myself.

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That makes some sense, FF.

(It's funny you should mention Kaer Maga, though. That's where I am planning on basing the wayang.)


Personally, I've pondered hiding a few kitsune in Sandpoint; Possibly as current or former servents of the Kaijitsu family. It may or may not make sense, but it helps players who want to play a kitsune in the Jade Regent campaign.

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I thought the Lantern Lodge was a brilliant in for people who wanted to play Tian Xia races in the Inner Sea. Too bad its closing its doors. : /


Chris Mortika wrote:

That makes some sense, FF.

(It's funny you should mention Kaer Maga, though. That's where I am planning on basing the wayang.)

That is the beauty of Kaer Maga, isn't it? You can put anything there.

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