Applying a CR to Low-Int Dragons


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I'm thinking about running a separate race of "lesser" dragons in my campaigns in conjunction with the dragons that currently exist in the Bestiaries. The difference between them is that these dragons are essentially beasts. They have none of the Spell-Like Abilities and have a low intelligence score. The current name is "Dagron", because it makes me smile.

I can easily strip these away from the dragons. That's not the hard part. The hard part is figuring out their CR. I understand that it will be lower, but I'm just not sure how much lower.

Any help the boards would be able to provide would be most appreciated.

...Catch Phrase,

-Chris


You mean a Drake?

Edit: a dumb drake.

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If the only thing you're changing is removing their spell-like abilities... dropping the CR by 1 point is the MOST I would do. Even a spellcasting dragon who doesn't bother with spells and only uses its natural attacks and breath weapons is going to be pretty close in CR to a dragon who does.


Cheapy wrote:

You mean a Drake?

Edit: a dumb drake.

The goal was to still have age categories, so I could tailor them to any given campaign. Essentially the idea is that these "dagrons" are much more common, while dragons themselves are their magically inclined, god-like brethren.

And thanks, James. I hadn't realized that the SLA's played such a small part in their power.

...Catch Phrase,

-Chris

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