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Scarab Sages

OK I have two questions that came up during a recent game and am interested in hearing opinions on.

1. If a character is under the effects of the spells Displacement and Mirror Image, what is the order in which an attack is resolved? (ie. do you roll for miss chance and then to see if an image is hit?)

2. Can a caster under the effects of the spell Transformation dismiss a previously cast spell? (Wall of Force was the specific situation.)


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1.) We generally do the miss chance first (sometimes even before rolling the D20, if the miss chance comes up you're only checking for a fumble) but does it matter ? Isn't the net effect the same ?

Method A
If you roll the miss chance first and miss, you're done.
If you roll the miss chance first and don't miss, then you roll the attack and compare vs AC. Miss by 5 or less, you got an image. Hit and you check if you got an image or the actual target.

Method B
Roll the attack and compare vs AC.
Miss the AC by more than five, you're done.
Miss the AC by 5 or less, you MIGHT have gotten an image, roll miss chance. If the miss chance succeeds, you got that image.
Hit the AC and you MIGHT have got something, roll miss chance. If the miss chance succeeds, check if you got an image or the actual target.

2.) I don't know, research required

Core page 186 says "Dismiss a Spell: Dismissing an active spell is a standard action that doesn’t provoke attacks of opportunity."

Core page 216 says "(D) Dismissible: If the duration line ends with “(D),” you can dismiss the spell at will. You must be within range of the spell’s effect and must speak words of dismissal, which are usually a modified form of the spell’s verbal component.
If the spell has no verbal component, you can dismiss the effect with a gesture. Dismissing a spell is a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. A spell that depends on concentration is dismissible by its very nature, and dismissing it does not take an action, since all you have to do to end the spell is to stop concentrating on your turn."

Transformation on page 360 says that it removes your spellcasting ability (even from spell completion items). Use items would be unaffected (your magic sword is still magic). I don't see how that would make a spell that had previously been cast not dismissable.

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