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If I were to have a potion of cure wounds or energy resistance something that you would normally assume you drink rather then apply as an oil could you apply it as an oil on your body rather then ingest it? The reasoning behind doing this is that I'm making a monk and I'm thinking of taking the vow of fasting which states you can't drink potions. So if it were to be an oil I would bypass this side effect for the vow of fasting for balancing reasons the vow of fasting gives +1 ki per 6 levels (min +1).
I don't see it as cheating at all every1 always assumes I'm gonna drink my potion on the other hand I've read more then one book where they had the concept of you enchant a band-aid with a cure spell and apply it so it would be the same concept the only problem people could have with this would be preconceptions they have of how potions "should" be used
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If I were to have a potion of cure wounds or energy resistance something that you would normally assume you drink rather then apply as an oil could you apply it as an oil on your body rather then ingest it? The reasoning behind doing this is that I'm making a monk and I'm thinking of taking the vow of fasting which states you can't drink potions. So if it were to be an oil I would bypass this side effect for the vow of fasting for balancing reasons the vow of fasting gives +1 ki per 6 levels (min +1).
Your cleric buddy with Brew Potion could create it as an oil. Ask your GM if NPC casters make oils of cure light wounds and whether they cost extra for being a less common item. A potion has no effect, except to destroy the magic item, if spread on a creature.
If I were to have a potion of cure wounds or energy resistance something that you would normally assume you drink rather then apply as an oil could you apply it as an oil on your body rather then ingest it? The reasoning behind doing this is that I'm making a monk and I'm thinking of taking the vow of fasting which states you can't drink potions. So if it were to be an oil I would bypass this side effect for the vow of fasting for balancing reasons the vow of fasting gives +1 ki per 6 levels (min +1).Your cleric buddy with Brew Potion could create it as an oil. Ask your GM if NPC casters make oils of cure light wounds and whether they cost extra for being a less common item. A potion has no effect, except to destroy the magic item, if spread on a creature.
Ok thanks for the help and making it a little more expensive would even it out some especially since vow of fasting is only a plus every 6 levels
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I'm going to be blunt here. You're trying to bypass the restriction of a mechanic to have your cake and eat it too. You could absolutely use a wondrous item that does something similar but most likely it will have different costs and feat requirements. However just calling a potion an oil is disingenuous and is trying to circumvent an optional decision that you chose that requires a trade out; extra ki points for not being able to eat or drink anything but rice or oatmeal and water.
That my friend is essentially cheating. Now if your GM is lenient enough to allow it you're one lucky player. But don't fool yourself by trying to rationalize that your not trying to exploit a really, really tenuous loophole.
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I've got to agree with KoV on this one. I would not allow this to fly at a table I ran. This is a player decision to restrict the character from being able to use potions or anything that requires ingestion. This would be akin to a specialist wizard wanting to get around their opposition school restrictions.
If you have a party healer, you have a solution already suggested: invest in cure scrolls or a wand and stock up your healer. If you have no party healer, build up your UMD skill and use the scrolls or wand yourself. If that doesn't work for you, take a level in cleric and use the scrolls or wand with no check required.
EDIT: Additionally oils and elixirs are NOT potions. They are wondrous items and require the Craft Wondrous Item feat, not Brew Potion.
EDIT: Additionally oils and elixirs are NOT potions. They are wondrous items and require the Craft Wondrous Item feat, not Brew Potion.
Oils are potions, and are made with Brew Potion.
A potion is a magic liquid that produces its effect when imbibed. Potions vary incredibly in appearance. Magic oils are similar to potions, except that oils are applied externally rather than imbibed. A potion or oil can be used only once. It can duplicate the effect of a spell of up to 3rd level that has a casting time of less than 1 minute and targets one or more creatures. The price of a potion is equal to the level of the spell × the creator's caster level × 50 gp. If the potion has a material component cost, it is added to the base price and cost to create. Table: Potions gives sample prices for potions created at the lowest possible caster level for each spellcasting class. Note that some spells appear at different levels for different casters. The level of such spells depends on the caster brewing the potion.
Oils are specifically mentioned under Potions on page 477 of the core rulebook. While the OP is probably violating the intent of the rule, mechanically there is nothing stopping him from using an oil of cure light wounds. Note that while they are basically the same, you can't just rub a potion on your body. IT would have to have been specifically made as an oil to function that way. Seeing as how that isn't how cure potions usually work, the OP would have to have them custom made by someone if he can't make them himself.
It is a shame that Paizo didn't duplicate the table found the the 3.5 DMG, which specifically noted if it was a potion or oil. Potions were things meant affect the drinker, while oils were meant to affect objects.
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I'm going to be blunt here. You're trying to bypass the restriction of a mechanic to have your cake and eat it too. You could absolutely use a wondrous item that does something similar but most likely it will have different costs and feat requirements. However just calling a potion an oil is disingenuous and is trying to circumvent an optional decision that you chose that requires a trade out; extra ki points for not being able to eat or drink anything but rice or oatmeal and water.
That my friend is essentially cheating. Now if your GM is lenient enough to allow it you're one lucky player. But don't fool yourself by trying to rationalize that your not trying to exploit a really, really tenuous loophole.
I'll be blunt right back: the rules say that oils function just like potions except you rub them instead of drinking them. Assuming the GM does not dictate otherwise, it's 100% legal for him to make/acquire oils of any spell you could get a potion of.
That means he's not cheating. You may not like it, but frankly your opinion doesn't matter. The rules are explicit - it's not even a loophole, as you call it. Doing exactly what the book specifically says you can do is not cheating.
The availability of potions and oils is something I've been thinking about too. The Core Rulebook says, "[A potion or oil] can duplicate the effect of a spell of up to 3rd level that has a casting time of less than 1 minute and targets one or more creatures."
Does this mean, RAW, that I can't have an Oil of Magic Weapon to apply to a non-magical sword? It doesn't target creatures.
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Here is ammo for both camps.
Vow of Fasting says you can NOT use alchemical items requiring eating or drinking. So you can use alchemical items that do not require eating and drinking. AntiToxin, Antiplague, Kindness, are all consumed. I can't see how any of these can be made into a non consumable. Ie, I can't see how you would cure cancer by rubbing goop on your arm.
Bloodblock, alchemic grease and solvent are used in a localized way, on a wound, on the gunk thats touching you etc. So they're fine.
Now Potions and Oils. Potion of Invisibility could be consumed or poured or smeared all over you. Potion of bull strength, not so much, but could have a weak argument if rubbed over your muscles. Potion of Owl Wisdom. I mean your gonna rub it on your head? and expect me to accept that as the wise choice? I'd smack you in the back of the head for trying it.
There is a PFS scenario that has potions of clue light wounds being injected into someone. Its getting into your body. If you your poured it into a gaping sword wound, I'd overlook RAW and allow it if you weren't being a jerk (I mean a hypocritical rules lawyer).
Notice that Elixirs are not specifically mentioned, But I would categorize as potions. Depends how close to the line you want to argue.
So what this all boils down too is.
Argument One: Potion of CLW exits in the books as written, Oil of CLW does not. If your GM allows it in a RPG game, cheers to you. In Society, tough.
Argument Two:
Player: Hi GM,
GM: Hi Player,
Player: I'd like to do this... Its a smidge in the grey, would you allow it.
GM: Sure but if It gets weird, We change it up or drop in some more clarifications at the end of this session or scenario.
Player: Cool with me, lets play. Or Your a big meanie GM jerkface and I'm gonna cry all the way home, then kick a cat, and its your fault. (cuz if the GM goes home, NOBODY Plays, way to spoil it for everyone)
(wonder if I'm gonna get wrist slapped for calling people names)
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Now Potions and Oils. Potion of Invisibility could be consumed or poured or smeared all over you. Potion of bull strength, not so much, but could have a weak argument if rubbed over your muscles. Potion of Owl Wisdom. I mean your gonna rub it on your head? and expect me to accept that as the wise choice? I'd smack you in the back of the head for trying it.
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Argument One: Potion of CLW exits in the books as written, Oil of CLW does not.
Laythe, you've clearly not read the potions section in the CRB, or the other posts in this thread.
First:
No one is trying to say that a potion can be rubbed on you to produce its effect. Thus, the larger of the above-quoted paragraphs is completely irrelevant, as it refutes an argument not made/a position not held.
Second:
As has already been referenced, the CRB has rules for creating oils - they function exactly as potions except for being smeared instead of consumed. Just as potions won't work if you smear them, oils won't work if you ingest them. Other than that, however, they're identical. Go read the section on potions in the CRB, "Magic Items" chapter. No one's trying to make anything up here. Thus, the above-quoted "Argument One" is factually incorrect: Oil of CLW *does* exist in the book as written.
Potions can be injected. It is referenced in the iron cobra entry in the bestiary.
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EDIT: Additionally oils and elixirs are NOT potions. They are wondrous items and require the Craft Wondrous Item feat, not Brew Potion.Oils are potions, and are made with Brew Potion.
D'oh! that's what I get for referencing the feat section and not the magic items section!
Thanks for the correction Jeraa.
Still, the concept of oil of cure light wounds just doesn't sit right. I guess it's just a hold over from the 3.5 days when the difference between the two was a clear divide between affecting creatures or objects.
Potions can be injected. It is referenced in the iron cobra entry in the bestiary.
Where? People keep saying it can do that but I don't see it. Maybe I'm missing it. Unless this section is meant to imply that 'stranger liquids' could be a potion.
...the creator can fill the reservoir with any injury poison (typically black adder venom), though acid, alchemical substances, and even stranger liquids have been used.
Is it in errata somewhere or something?
The iron cobra is a simple construct that resembles a hooded cobra made out of metal. The iron cobra is typically used as a bodyguard or guardian of treasure, though its magical ability to unerringly locate creatures means it is also used as an assassin. Since an iron cobra's poison reservoir can contain multiple types of venom, the construct's specific use can be further tailored by varying the poison used. Some spellcasters even fill these reservoirs with potions, so that when the cobra bites, it injects the potion into its target. This is a somewhat dangerous method for gaining the effects of a potion, but it does free up the cobra's master to do other things in a combat round apart from quaffing potions.
It isn't in the stat block, its in the text after the stat block. (page 182, Bestiary 1, right column)
Potions can be injected. It is referenced in the iron cobra entry in the bestiary.Where? People keep saying it can do that but I don't see it. Maybe I'm missing it. Unless this section is meant to imply that 'stranger liquids' could be a potion.
...the creator can fill the reservoir with any injury poison (typically black adder venom), though acid, alchemical substances, and even stranger liquids have been used.
Is it in errata somewhere or something?
There's also an item, some sort of spear or lance, that's essentially a large hypodermic needle. Can't recall the name or source though, but it does the injection thing too.
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There's also an item, some sort of spear or lance, that's essentially a large hypodermic needle. Can't recall the name or source though, but it does the injection thing too.Potions can be injected. It is referenced in the iron cobra entry in the bestiary.Where? People keep saying it can do that but I don't see it. Maybe I'm missing it. Unless this section is meant to imply that 'stranger liquids' could be a potion.
...the creator can fill the reservoir with any injury poison (typically black adder venom), though acid, alchemical substances, and even stranger liquids have been used.
Is it in errata somewhere or something?
That would be a syringe spear.
The iron cobra is a simple construct that resembles a hooded cobra made out of metal. The iron cobra is typically used as a bodyguard or guardian of treasure, though its magical ability to unerringly locate creatures means it is also used as an assassin. Since an iron cobra's poison reservoir can contain multiple types of venom, the construct's specific use can be further tailored by varying the poison used. Some spellcasters even fill these reservoirs with potions, so that when the cobra bites, it injects the potion into its target. This is a somewhat dangerous method for gaining the effects of a potion, but it does free up the cobra's master to do other things in a combat round apart from quaffing potions.It isn't in the stat block, its in the text after the stat block. (page 182, Bestiary 1, right column)
Ah hah! Thank you. Sneaky of them hiding that in the 'fluffy' section.
I wondered whether the syringe spear would just be a syringe if you got it at small or tiny sized instead of medium, since only the damage changes.
And now a related question....
Magical syringe spear of spell storing with pernicious poison as stored spell
...and containing let's say wyvern poison as the reservoir poison
....and since it's a poison-able weapon anyway the blade tip whatever is poisoned with say deathblade poison.
Ok for the question since all three effects trigger off of the damage condition what happens in what order when you stab someone with it?
Two words: aloe vera.
My boyfriend still rubs this smelly s&@~ all over himself when he gets a cut or sunburn. I can't imagine a world like D&D where this stuff doesn't get enchanted with CLW and bottled up and sold on the common market as an oil. Also remember that a lot of medicines are absorbed through the skin and have the same effects as pills, albeit at a faster rate (I'm thinking of patches, oral applicators, etc). There are even oils and incense you can use for 'clarity of mind.'
This is not a far-fetched concept nor is it gamebreaking for that matter.
Since this is the rules forum. An oil and a potion are both created by the same feat, but certain things are potions, and others are oils. By the rules(RAW) they are what they are, so in short no it won't work.
With that being said it is up to the GM if he wants to be a stickler or not.
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Since this is the rules forum. An oil and a potion are both created by the same feat, but certain things are potions, and others are oils. By the rules(RAW) they are what they are, so in short no it won't work.
With that being said it is up to the GM if he wants to be a stickler or not.
Can you please point me to what is considered and oil and what is considered a potion? I would like a list of all spells that are, by RAW, oils please. (I figure that this would be the smaller list).
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Can you please point me to what is considered and oil and what is considered a potion? I would like a list of all spells that are, by RAW, oils please. (I figure that this would be the smaller list).Since this is the rules forum. An oil and a potion are both created by the same feat, but certain things are potions, and others are oils. By the rules(RAW) they are what they are, so in short no it won't work.
With that being said it is up to the GM if he wants to be a stickler or not.
This has already been answered in this thread, complete with quotation of rules text and CRB page number.
There is no list of spells that come as oils instead of potions, or vice-versa. Rather, if you look at the "Potions" section of the Magic Items chapter of the CRB, you'll find that anything that can be made as a potion can alternatively be made as an oil by the same process. They function the same except that one is imbibed while the other is applied externally. But they're made the same way and have all the same functionality and are described on the same page in the CRB.
Can you please point me to what is considered and oil and what is considered a potion? I would like a list of all spells that are, by RAW, oils please. (I figure that this would be the smaller list).
Pathfinder doesn't say what spells are made into potions and what ones are made into oils. 3.5 D&D didn't even have that in writing either, but if you looked at the potion table you could see what was implied - potions affect the drinker, oils affect an object (like oil of Magic Weapon, which was rubbed onto a weapon).
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Can you please point me to what is considered and oil and what is considered a potion? I would like a list of all spells that are, by RAW, oils please. (I figure that this would be the smaller list).Since this is the rules forum. An oil and a potion are both created by the same feat, but certain things are potions, and others are oils. By the rules(RAW) they are what they are, so in short no it won't work.
With that being said it is up to the GM if he wants to be a stickler or not.
This has already been answered in this thread, complete with quotation of rules text and CRB page number.
There is no list of spells that come as oils instead of potions, or vice-versa. Rather, if you look at the "Potions" section of the Magic Items chapter of the CRB, you'll find that anything that can be made as a potion can alternatively be made as an oil by the same process. They function the same except that one is imbibed while the other is applied externally. But they're made the same way and have all the same functionality and are described on the same page in the CRB.
Just verifying that I did not miss something since concerro was stating:
An oil and a potion are both created by the same feat, but certain things are potions, and others are oils. By the rules(RAW) they are what they are, so in short no it won't work.
And that is not the case. Any spell that fits the potion rules (3rd level or lower, targets creature or creatures, etc) could be made as an oil instead. The only limitation is on that is if a GM decides to houserule differently.
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Just verifying that I did not miss something since concerro was stating:
An oil and a potion are both created by the same feat, but certain things are potions, and others are oils. By the rules(RAW) they are what they are, so in short no it won't work.And that is not the case. Any spell that fits the potion rules (3rd level or lower, targets creature or creatures, etc) could be made as an oil instead. The only limitation is on that is if a GM decides to houserule differently.
Your assertion that concerro is wrong, as well as your description of how it works, is correct.
I'm starting to learn that a person saying something works a certain way in Pathfinder is next to worthless if not cited. Seems like people will learn how something works once when they start playing in one edition, never read new editions, and then keep telling anyone who asks that things work like they used to without even checking. I am now in the habit of cross-referencing any claim anyone makes about the rules, as a knee-jerk reaction.
On the bright side, I'm learning to navigate the CRB pretty well.
EDIT: Sorry, that probably came across as sounding like an attack on concerro. Totally not how I meant it. Just noticing a general trend both on the boards and at the table.
I'm starting to learn that a person saying something works a certain way in Pathfinder is next to worthless if not cited. Seems like people will learn how something works once when they start playing in one edition, never read new editions, and then keep telling anyone who asks that things work like they used to without even checking. I am now in the habit of cross-referencing any claim anyone makes about the rules, as a knee-jerk reaction.
On the bright side, I'm learning to navigate the CRB pretty well.
EDIT: Sorry, that probably came across as sounding like an attack on concerro. Totally not how I meant it. Just noticing a general trend both on the boards and at the table.
Yes, the CRB has many secrets hidden in different places. One has to be diligent to see them all and put the pieces together.
Make sure to mind the errata as well.
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This reminds me of a discussion our group had when we first examined Alchemists and realized a Potion of Magic Missile wouldn't allow the quaffer to shoot a Magic Missile, but rather it would basically explode on you when you drank it.
My $0.02: if this fasting monk is allowed to use an Oil of Magic Weapon on his fists, he should be able to use an Oil of CLW as well.
Here's a question-- how would a Potion of Magic Weapon work out?
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This reminds me of a discussion our group had when we first examined Alchemists and realized a Potion of Magic Missile wouldn't allow the quaffer to shoot a Magic Missile, but rather it would basically explode on you when you drank it.
Surprise!
Here's a question-- how would a Potion of Magic Weapon work out?
How are you planning to get the weapon to drink it?
This reminds me of a discussion our group had when we first examined Alchemists and realized a Potion of Magic Missile wouldn't allow the quaffer to shoot a Magic Missile, but rather it would basically explode on you when you drank it.
Man you should have seen how upset that fighter was when he realized the wizard was right and the potion of fireball wasn't going to let him throw a fireball but cast one in his stomach.
I was nice... I allowed him a fortitude save for half damage...
And now a related question....
Magical syringe spear of spell storing with pernicious poison as stored spell
...and containing let's say wyvern poison as the reservoir poison
....and since it's a poison-able weapon anyway the blade tip whatever is poisoned with say deathblade poison.Ok for the question since all three effects trigger off of the damage condition what happens in what order when you stab someone with it?
Only one injury poison can be applied to a character at per attempt so... choose which of the 3 you want to work.
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Only one injury poison can be applied to a character at per attempt so... choose which of the 3 you want to work.And now a related question....
Magical syringe spear of spell storing with pernicious poison as stored spell
...and containing let's say wyvern poison as the reservoir poison
....and since it's a poison-able weapon anyway the blade tip whatever is poisoned with say deathblade poison.Ok for the question since all three effects trigger off of the damage condition what happens in what order when you stab someone with it?
I would view it as different sources.
At worst case, the spell and one of the poisons would go off. Think of it this way, if the spell storing had instead Ghoul touch, would you make them choose between the spell effect or the poison?
In this case the pernicious poison would cause the victim to take a -4 on the fort save to save vs the deathblade first (as it is on the blade tip) and then they would have to save vs the wyvern poison once is it injected. You end up with 3 different effects coming from 3 different sources (spell storing, poisoned blade, poison reservoir) , just applied via the same weapon.
have a rogue do it -- they have a talent where they can double up on the poisons on a blade.
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I have no source for it, but I had always assumed that potions were for creatures and oils were for objects. Basically, if it affects an item (magic weapon, magic stone, etc) it's an oil, and if it affects a creature (cure whatever, remove disease, etc) it's a potion. It's not explicitly in the rules (as far as I know), but it holds up to the list of sample items...
have a rogue do it -- they have a talent where they can double up on the poisons on a blade.
This is correct, this is the only way you could apply more than one injury poison dose at a time.
Poisons delivered by injury and contact cannot inflict more than one dose of poison at a time, but inhaled and ingested poisons can inflict multiple doses at once.
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have a rogue do it -- they have a talent where they can double up on the poisons on a blade.This is correct, this is the only way you could apply more than one injury poison dose at a time.
Poisons delivered by injury and contact cannot inflict more than one dose of poison at a time, but inhaled and ingested poisons can inflict multiple doses at once.
So, the spell, and then one of the poisons would go off.
So, the spell, and then one of the poisons would go off.have a rogue do it -- they have a talent where they can double up on the poisons on a blade.This is correct, this is the only way you could apply more than one injury poison dose at a time.
Poisons delivered by injury and contact cannot inflict more than one dose of poison at a time, but inhaled and ingested poisons can inflict multiple doses at once.
I misspoke when I said all three trigger off of the damage condition. The syringe spear reservoir is a special case that triggers off of a successful hit(not damage). Not sure if that changes anything.
Also, the multiple doses, is about cranking up the DC's if I remember that section correctly, I don't know if it was meant to apply to two different delivery mechanisms. The injector triggers off of hit, the other off of normal damage rules. Potions can also be injected, where poisoning a blade with them produces no effect....I liken this more to coating an ampule inhaled poison with contact poison then smashing it against a targets forehead...
Heck if you are going to do this lets do it right:
Rogue 10/ Alchemist 10 (vivisecitonist, internal is my recommendation).
Deadly Cocktail, Concentrate poison, sticky poison.
While we are at it take poison conversion for alchemist too.
Now we take the poison and concentrate it so now it's doubled, then we use deadly cocktail to double that -- that's effectively 4 doses of the same poison, and thanks to sticky poison it's going to last a while.
and of course store the spell -- which will go off because it isn't an injury type of poison.
So now we have 4 doses of injury poison and the spell.
Though honestly if you just turn this super poison into an inhaled poison and then simply drop 5 doses of it on the ground you'll have the equivalent of 20 doses all at the same time.
....it seems like pernicious poison is a good candidate for spell storing for poisoners regardless, accelerate poison as well(especially for things Like spider eater venom).
A vow is supposed to be a vow for a reason. If it weren't inconvenient, there wouldn't be any power in it.
That said, by the rules and also common sense, any potion or for that matter drug can be made for topical use or internal use. You don't drink suntan lotion. You don't smear cough syrup all over your body.
If you've got some magical effect, logic should apply. Let's take Spider Climb as a spell. So you've got potion of spider climb which you drink and you can suddenly climb the walls like Spiderman. Then you could also have oil of spider climb which presumably you smear on your hands and feet and then do the same trick.
If you find a treasure hoard, it's mostly going to have potions in it. If the monk goes to the alchemist's shop, the alchemist will probably not have "oil of spider climb" on the shelf but could make it as a special order.
Though it is not specifically in the rules, it would not be broken mechanically or thematically to also let "Brew Potion" be used to create powders to snort, eyedrops, or even Magic Fang Toothpaste. It's much more flavorful for your 18th century courtier, rather than pulling out a tiny airline bottle and swigging it, to take out a snuffbox, snort a delicate pinch of some magical snuff, and get some magical effect.
Mechanically, if someone had snuff of owl's wisdom, it would take just as long to pop the snuffbox and snort a pinch as it would to open a potion and drink it, and this is also something that the monk could use without breaking his vow.
That said, the vows are meant to be an inconvenience and the majority of alchemical preparations the monk will find are going to be potions which he can't use. He's going to have to go out of his way to find the compounding pharmacy where the alchemist is open to special orders and will make "oil of whatever" with enough lead time or else he's going to have to find the alchemist who makes everything as snuff for sale to the gentry who would probably not want to sell to him because it would not do much for his branding to have his genteel products used by shaven-headed street ruffians.
At least that's how I'd play it as GM.
I have no source for it, but I had always assumed that potions were for creatures and oils were for objects. Basically, if it affects an item (magic weapon, magic stone, etc) it's an oil, and if it affects a creature (cure whatever, remove disease, etc) it's a potion. It's not explicitly in the rules (as far as I know), but it holds up to the list of sample items...
I asked this question earlier in the thread and it seems to have been lost in the flurry of discussion.
The availability of potions and oils is something I've been thinking about too. The Core Rulebook says, "[A potion or oil] can duplicate the effect of a spell of up to 3rd level that has a casting time of less than 1 minute and targets one or more creatures."
Does this mean, RAW, that I can't have an Oil of Magic Weapon to apply to a non-magical sword? The spell doesn't target creatures.
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I have no source for it, but I had always assumed that potions were for creatures and oils were for objects. Basically, if it affects an item (magic weapon, magic stone, etc) it's an oil, and if it affects a creature (cure whatever, remove disease, etc) it's a potion. It's not explicitly in the rules (as far as I know), but it holds up to the list of sample items...I asked this question earlier in the thread and it seems to have been lost in the flurry of discussion.
The availability of potions and oils is something I've been thinking about too. The Core Rulebook says, "[A potion or oil] can duplicate the effect of a spell of up to 3rd level that has a casting time of less than 1 minute and targets one or more creatures."
Does this mean, RAW, that I can't have an Oil of Magic Weapon to apply to a non-magical sword? The spell doesn't target creatures.
By the RAW, an Oil of Magic Weapon would not be created using brew potion, but instead would be created with Craft Wondrous Item. I say this since Magic Weapon does not qualify for the rules of creating potions.
I don't think there is ANYTHING wrong with what the OP is proposing AT ALL.
Additionally, many of the people who are opposed to the idea are seriously overreacting.