That dives straight into the territory of 'creepy gamer' and doesn't come up for air. If you say that's not gratuitous, I don't want to see what you consider is gratuitous.
This is so niche that it's going to drive away more than a few. That said, I like it, though I'm not sure I'd play it.
Yup, creepy, sexist, and awful. This gets a 92 on the the failometer. Really I'm just replying so it bumps back up so others know just how creepy the original poster is.
Now I'm afraid to click...besides you can already bind succubus. What more does a man need?
I can't decide if there's a joke I'm not getting here. If not, that's really really creepy.
I can't decide if there's a joke I'm not getting here. If not, that's really really creepy.
Why does it always get back to Japan? Why god why?
Dahar, I don't see what be wrong with it...
it's even less romantic than hold person.
Sorry, this isn't for me.
It's about what I would expect from trying to convert anime to Pathfinder. Understanding the original source makes it a lot easier to understand the reasoning. Like most anime, it will really appeal to you, or it won't, no matter what form its in.
i guess you would have to have seen the anime to find this amusing =)
My eyes..... >.< and +1 to what Thalin said. Stuff like this just makes us look like the old stereos type from the 70s-80s.
I can see how anime fans would dig it so good on you for making it.
It's not for me, though, and I'll admit it creeps me out a little bit...but so does all anime, really. Historically, Japan had such an amazingly interesting culture. Modern Japan is mostly just plain strange and, yeah, it kinda creeps me out too. :)
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i guess you would have to have seen the anime to find this amusing =)
+1 Seems like it. The show's artwork lagged behind other studios, but it wasn't an awful series. Western sensibilities really make my head ache...
mostly weird, though it did start me thinking about having a succubus like eidolon for a summoner.. if I can't make it effective I might just go with an archetype to downgrade the eidolon in favor of other abilities and just summon my eidolon(s) whenever I need some tlc
Is slavery really sexy to some people? For me, personally, it just makes me angry.
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Euw. This is... disgusting. I like relationships in my games. Our characters have sex on a regular basis. We don't need to roleplay it, and certainly not with rules.
And this isn't just unnecessary and obscene, it's really disgusting. It's sexist, revolting and, as someone above said, "less romantic than hold person".
Apart from that, the rules also suck from a strict rules and balance point of view.
If the intelligence check is for understanding this is a trolling/joke, then I failed. I'm kinda easily offended when it comes to sexism though.
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They said they were throwing their maturity towards the topic of sex out the window. They meant it.
And yet the thing that bugged me most was the +4 cha for being pretty.
They have next to no sense of self outside someone else. Prettiness is not charisma, darn it.
If that is what tweaks me about a race of sex dolls, I may want to seek counseling.
If the intelligence check is for understanding this is a trolling/joke, then I failed. I'm kinda easily offended when it comes to sexism though.
This coming from "StringBurka"... I am definitely not clicking through to this at work.
If the intelligence check is for understanding this is a trolling/joke, then I failed. I'm kinda easily offended when it comes to sexism though.This coming from "StringBurka"... I am definitely not clicking through to this at work.
It's probably safe for work, unless your boss is a total asshat. They tend to be on the other hand. And my nick has nothing to do with sex, really. It's based on an inside joke among me and some fellow hbtq-activist.
They said they were throwing their maturity towards the topic of sex out the window. They meant it.
And yet the thing that bugged me most was the +4 cha for being pretty.
They have next to no sense of self outside someone else. Prettiness is not charisma, darn it.
If that is what tweaks me about a race of sex dolls, I may want to seek counseling.
Yeah, I too thought about that. And the Special Powers ability was more or less "hey, make your own monster instead of using this badly written piece of crap race".
On the other hand, the "Anime Template" makes me think this is just a joke after all. A pretty bad joke though, it's not even funny sexism. It's like blurbing out a bunch of racial slurs just to seem funny... without there being a point.
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Yeah, I like to keep my nasty habits separate from my hobbies, especially social hobbies and advice everyone else to do the same. It's respectful, promotes equality and makes people far more comfortable. I also like to think that doing my part for not tolerating sexism in my hobby helps the crowd to move forward slowly but surely.
And Tenjho Tenge, for instance, is a far better fusion of titillation and seinen, in my humble opinion. Just avoid the anime.
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Not really my thing but it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is some of the hostility being shown to the OP. So you don't like it, move on. Each to their own, if the OP and friends or others on this board see it and do like it and play with it. I say more power to them, they are consenting adults, have fun.
Not really my thing but it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is some of the hostility being shown to the OP. So you don't like it, move on. Each to their own, if the OP and friends or others on this board see it and do like it and play with it. I say more power to them, they are consenting adults, have fun.
I tend to agree with this. If it hadn't clearly been based off of anime, I might have had a different response, but as it is, it's a perfectly valid conversion from a source that can evoke strong reactions. The conversion itself is as as well done as one could expect, staying true to the source, which is usually how people measure the quality of such things. Qualms over the source material are another matter entirely, and should be treated separately.
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And the Special Powers ability was more or less "hey, make your own monster instead of using this badly written piece of crap race".Leaving aside the insults, the problem with non-point buy systems is that it's hard to individualize characters that have unique abilities. It's the same reason that Pathfinder doesn't do superheroes very well.
It's easy enough, it's just that I as a DM have no use of a race that says "This is the race. You figure out the abilities."
I could do that myself without someone telling me. And I've done superheroes games in d20, the only issue is 3d movement.
But the issues with this was only slightly because it's crappy. It's much more because it's disgusting. As I said,
It's like blurbing out a bunch of racial slurs just to seem funny... without there being a point.
Not really my thing but it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is some of the hostility being shown to the OP. So you don't like it, move on. Each to their own, if the OP and friends or others on this board see it and do like it and play with it. I say more power to them, they are consenting adults, have fun.
I'm not hostile to the OP, I'm hostile to the publication he's made/is advertising. And having the attitude of "don't like it, move on" to racism, sexism, and other kinds of degradation is what keeps a lot of problems in society going.
I don't know the OP, I'm not hostile to him as a person, but that kind of crap there is no reason to put up with.
It's easy enough, it's just that I as a DM have no use of a race that says "This is the race. You figure out the abilities."
I could do that myself without someone telling me. And I've done superheroes games in d20, the only issue is 3d movement.
It's easy enough to figure that out at the table; it's harder to actually make a rule (or set of rules) to codify doing so within the comparatively-rigid Pathfinder rules set.
I've done superhero games in d20 also, but they used a point-buy system.
I for one find the d20/pathfinder system very easy to modify, it's probably the main reason I've stayed with it through all these years. Superhero games requires that the DM knows the system well, and is open to customizing more or less all classes, as well as the player group knowing each other.
I wouldn't dare DM a superheroes game on a convention, but when it's only for a home game, you don't even need a complete system for it - you can talk things through with your players to accomodate their wishes without breaking the game.
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Not really my thing but it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is some of the hostility being shown to the OP. So you don't like it, move on. Each to their own, if the OP and friends or others on this board see it and do like it and play with it. I say more power to them, they are consenting adults, have fun.I'm not hostile to the OP, I'm hostile to the publication he's made/is advertising. And having the attitude of "don't like it, move on" to racism, sexism, and other kinds of degradation is what keeps a lot of problems in society going.
I don't know the OP, I'm not hostile to him as a person, but that kind of crap there is no reason to put up with.
I didn't single you out either. I said I was bothered by some of the hostility being shown to the OP. I never mentioned anything about people being hostile to the subject matter.
My point was regardless what you think of the subject matter, it is not a excuse to be hostile or rude to the OP as a person.
I didn't single you out either. I said I was bothered by some of the hostility being shown to the OP. I never mentioned anything about people being hostile to the subject matter.
My point was regardless what you think of the subject matter, it is not a excuse to be hostile or rude to the OP as a person.
Oh, now I saw the post hostile to the OP. Scrolled through but couldn't see anything before so assumed you meant general hostility to the subject.
Yeah, calling the OP names is unjustified at this point.
Yeah, I like to keep my nasty habits separate from my hobbies, especially social hobbies and advice everyone else to do the same. It's respectful, promotes equality and makes people far more comfortable. I also like to think that doing my part for not tolerating sexism in my hobby helps the crowd to move forward slowly but surely.
And Tenjho Tenge, for instance, is a far better fusion of titillation and seinen, in my humble opinion. Just avoid the anime.
Hey! I liked Tenjho Tenge! BOMBAHEAD!!!!!!!!
Not really my thing but it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is some of the hostility being shown to the OP. So you don't like it, move on. Each to their own, if the OP and friends or others on this board see it and do like it and play with it. I say more power to them, they are consenting adults, have fun.
Wholehearted agreement.
we can have a debate without making judgments about the other person (or their writing) - something that's all too rare on the internet.
It's the old 'tarred with the same brush argument'. Obviously many people would prefer their hobby not to be associated with Pseudo Hentai, just like I wasn't wild about being taken for gay in my dance class. I think that's where the strongest hostility is coming from.
By the by, I want to personally thank stringburka for removing some of the more accusatory parts of one of his previous posts. It's really heartening to see that we can have a debate without making judgments about the other person (or their writing) - something that's all too rare on the internet.
What? I haven't removed any accusatory parts that I know of. I haven't made any such parts to begin with that I know of. The only accusatory post directed at a person I've seen was the 3rd reply of the thread.
Obviously many people would prefer their hobby not to be associated with Pseudo Hentai, just like I wasn't wild about being taken for gay in my dance class. I think that's where the strongest hostility is coming from.
Well, there's also a difference between sexual manga in general and keeping sex slaves. And even having a sex slave race.
I don't see a sex slave race anywhere. I see beautiful anthropomorphic pokemon, some one could find offense in that as well, but that's different from a "sex slave race".
I don't see a sex slave race anywhere. I see beautiful anthropomorphic pokemon, you can have a problem with that as well, but that's no "sex slave race".
They are a "sexy new element" whos sole purpose is be "submissive and worshipful towards [their masters], living only to please their [masters]"
(hooked parantheses are my clarification of the sentence, but doesn't change the meaning of it as can be seen if comparing.Yes, they are a sex slave race. You don't even need to read between the lines.
EDIT: You can call them a pokemon if you want, but pokemon 1. have more free will and 2. aren't there to be "sexy" by any means. I think pokemon bestiality would be recieved quite badly by most.
I don't see a sex slave race anywhere. I see beautiful anthropomorphic pokemon, some one could find offense in that as well, but that's different from a "sex slave race".
Well we just have to keep looking! Everyone keeps talking about them so they must be in the article somewhere.
They are a "sexy new element" whos sole purpose is be "submissive and worshipful towards [their masters], living only to please their [masters]"
(hooked parantheses are my clarification of the sentence, but doesn't change the meaning of it as can be seen if comparing.Yes, they are a sex slave race. You don't even need to read between the lines.
EDIT: You can call them a pokemon if you want, but pokemon 1. have more free will and 2. aren't there to be "sexy" by any means. I think pokemon bestiality would be recieved quite badly by most.
A slave is forced to do things against his/her will, as far as I can tell this 'sekirei' folk enjoy being like pets, they feel love for their master, much like a dog would feel about it's owner, you wouldn't call a dog a slave.
From what I can gather this is a different race, they are not human, they are 'sekirei', they are closer to augmented animal companions or paladin mounts. They just so happen to be humanoid and somewhat attractive, so sex is not off the table.
I see how this could offend some people, but come on, this is something akin to what you would find in Book of Erotic Fantasy and the like. It's harmless words on a paper that some people find funny/fun. Different strokes for different folks and all that.
I agree with TryOmegaZero in the sense that a bunch of sweaty dudes playing romance with each other is not my idea of a good game night, but hey, it must be someone's cup of tea or else books like Erotic Fantasy and the like wouldn't exist, so what's wrong with them having their fun? Why can't they?
Keep in mind that female gamers do exist, and that some couples play one on one, so this kind of material could be of their interest.
And I used the term Pokemon loosely to mean "generic bonded creature under your control", I might as well call them "Humanoid Eidolons".
EDIT: I believe I am not using aggressive words or offensive tone, but if it comes this way I assure you it's completely unintended, I believe you are entitled to your opinion and to see this idea as a bad one and even a disgusting one, something you would never even consider entertaining in your games, but just as well there are people that believe otherwise, and they too deserve to voice their thoughts about it.
Yes, actually from what I can understand from that article they are like Pokemon, they are here to fight other 'Sekirei'.
So there be cat fights.
I don't see a sex slave race anywhere. I see beautiful anthropomorphic pokemon, you can have a problem with that as well, but that's no "sex slave race".They are a "sexy new element" whos sole purpose is be "submissive and worshipful towards [their masters], living only to please their [masters]"
(hooked parantheses are my clarification of the sentence, but doesn't change the meaning of it as can be seen if comparing.Yes, they are a sex slave race. You don't even need to read between the lines.
EDIT: You can call them a pokemon if you want, but pokemon 1. have more free will and 2. aren't there to be "sexy" by any means. I think pokemon bestiality would be recieved quite badly by most.
Would it be gauche at this point to mention Pokégirls?
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