NOTE: From a perspective of character, rather than Caravan, abilities, snowfall reduces visibility by half, and imposes a -4 penalty on Perception checks and ranged weapon attacks.
I think someone's been reading some Edgar Rice Burroughs.
:) then again, I guess there could be multiple authors that came up with something similar
Since apparently not everyone caught this --
All PCs, except for Melinda who gets Endure Elements through other means, currently has a pair of Boots of the Winterlands.
And the NPC who will be introduced in Book 4 is just one of several I thought Hrunndalf might possibly find attractive, and might possibly find him attractive, if Ameiko doesn't work out for him. It was more an example than anything else -- there are and will be others, including Uksahkka, various other NPCs you might meet in the Crown and Hongal, and there are hints of people in modules I haven't even gotten yet; there's a neat-sounding NPC coming up in module 5 as well, apparently, which isn't out yet.
So even if Hrunndalf doesn't find the NPC attractive for whatever reason, or that NPC proves not to be attracted to Hrunndalf for whatever reason (I have no guarantees one of you won't say something awful about the other person's mother upon first meeting, after all, for example), no big deal. Whatever happens, there will be periodic size-and-gender-appropriate NPCs around, whether that particular one is or not -- which information I am not saying.
So even if Hrunndalf doesn't find the NPC attractive for whatever reason, or that NPC proves not to be attracted to Hrunndalf for whatever reason (I have no guarantees one of you won't say something awful about the other person's mother upon first meeting, after all, for example), no big deal.
Sure, just because there's no scores to keep doesn't mean a relationship should come for free. Sounds like fun. ;)
Actually, I'm coming to like the idea of an NPC fascinating enough to turn Hrunndalf's attention away from Ameiko. I wouldn't say that I'd prefer that outcome over getting together with Ameiko, but it certainly wouldn't feel like "failing" the quest.
I was thinking about developing Uksahkka as a possible backup relationship, as you know, but she currently comes across as rather plain and passive, in stark contrast to Ameiko's dazzling and headstrong nature that Hrunndalf fell for, so I don't see that happening just now. But that constellation could still change in the future, so I'm not ruling out anything at the moment.
Regarding question on the IC board:
Those without Profession Chef cannot "assist" cooking ROLLS in the mechanical sense of making assisted skill checks. You can of course chop vegetables badly as a role-playing thing without making any rolls.
And again, let's please try to move such OOC discussions over here whenever possible to do so. Even if I make a rule statement there, queries about it should generally be made here. I sometimes make a single ruling post in order to quickly address an immediate situation, but extended discussion of the rules is not generally appropriate for the IC board.
Right. I remember there being a discussion on cooking rolls before, but I didn't remember the result. Forum search only gave me a post with Myri making an untrained cooking check to assist (I suppose that was before the discussion, though).
It occurred to me that I have no leisure-time skills at all. Only two people can assist a cook at one time, right? I suppose I should finally take that rank in singing I've been toying with, then.
Huh. I just realized I need to procure at least a +1 bonus to Charisma by level 10 to be able to cast 5th-level spells. I figured I'd get to buy a circlet way before that, but our shopping options are likely going to be very limited for a long while now.
Does anyone happen to intend to take Craft Wondrous Items before then...?
Otherwise I should probably put my 8th-level increase into Charisma, just to be sure.
Regarding question on the IC board:
Those without Profession Chef cannot "assist" cooking ROLLS in the mechanical sense of making assisted skill checks. You can of course chop vegetables badly as a role-playing thing without making any rolls.
And again, let's please try to move such OOC discussions over here whenever possible to do so. Even if I make a rule statement there, queries about it should generally be made here. I sometimes make a single ruling post in order to quickly address an immediate situation, but extended discussion of the rules is not generally appropriate for the IC board.
Myri does have Profession: Chef and would be making aid another rolls. She would be helping out regularly in food preparation. Although Myri has become more subdued, silence on this issue is more due to Player time issues than in character reasons.
It occurred to me that I have no leisure-time skills at all.
Did you take Profession: Wainwright or Craft: Carpentry? I took the latter so that Rhost can whittle.
Yeah, it must have been an old post that came up in the search.
Did you take Profession: Wainwright or Craft: Carpentry? I took the latter so that Rhost can whittle.
I took Profession: Engineer. I figured it would be wider in scope than Wainwright, and Craft is Intelligence-based, so I prefer Profession.
Maybe I should build potato batteries in my spare time. ;)
I took Profession: Engineer. I figured it would be wider in scope than Wainwright, and Craft is Intelligence-based, so I prefer Profession.
Perhaps you should sally ahead and build a bridge across the river while we catch up to you. That could be your hobby. ;)
From this point on, I will assume that everyone in the party is being exposed to Daylight spells at least once a day in order to prevent potential perpetual-darkness induced insanity.
Good call, by the way. :P
I've always wondered why Daylight was such a high-level spell. It's pretty much irreplaceable in this particular context, though.
so Mel gets to keep sneezing ;)
Re: Daylight
Yep, Mel sneezes. And if Suishen provides it, we have it for 3 hours. So when we first stop for the day, Mel will ask Suishen to cast it on one of the firestones. (And yes then she will sneeze.)
If it helps you to make the IC decision, the Map of the High Ice provides a +2 competence bonus on Survival Checks to avoid getting lost and to avoid hazards in the High Ice region of the Crown of the World, and a +5 bonus on Caravan Security checks made in that region (with the exception of checks made to avoid the effects of altitude, extreme cold, or severe weather.)
That Path of Aganhei crosses the High Ice for about 1500 miles.
Sounds like a great deal to me.
Do we have that kind of money, or should we start thinking about what we can afford to sell?
Do we have that kind of money, or should we start thinking about what we can afford to sell?
Rhost has about 1/6 of that. Little less than in gold. Little more than if you include "or equivalent."
Myri only has about 100gp, but she is willing to give up, up to 800gp in jewelry if need be.
I have almost a third of that, but I'd like to retain a little cash for my rainy day -- or snowy day -- fund.
Sadly, Mel has... 14 sp.
I have nearly 300 gp in my purse. Like Alaric, I'd like to keep something after purchasing a map.
I also can give up some of the gems I'm holding onto, like Myri.
From what I am seeing, purchasing the map is possible if everyone with money remaining pitches in, but there probably is no way to do it without some people paying significantly more than others. Although I could set up some kind of recompense plan at the next loot division fairly easily if people want.
Whether this would require people pretty much bankrupting themselves or whether people could retain a bit "just in case" depends on how much the people who haven't weighed in yet want to or can contribute.
I have some 200 gp in gold, and I could, for instance, give away my two masterwork throwing axes. I still have my (mundane) javelins.
Would a non-art object such as a throwing axe count as half its value, as if we were to sell it for gold, or as it full value?
EDIT: Oh yeah, there's also the jewelry for 250 gp. That should probably go before the throwing axes.
Would a non-art object such as a throwing axe count as half its value, as if we were to sell it for gold, or as it full value?
If you can offer something he actually wants for himself, he would probably consider it full value because that is what he would have had to pay to get it.
If you are offering something he will simply be reselling elsewhere, he would consider it half value because that is all he will get for reselling it.
Medium sized weapons would definitely count as half-value items.
In that case, I should rather sell the Hnefatafl board than the axes. It's 240 gp, and we can just as well play with a piece of parchment and colored stones.
I have jewelry I can contribute, and i haven't used all the diamonds for glyphs yet, so what i have left could potentially be contributed as well. let me sit down and figure out how much that all is. post again in a little while.
For the record, I loved Kalimac's appropriation of Alaric's favorite expression, but I figured the openness with which they talked about Kalimac's relationship with Ameiko implied Hrunndalf was not around to hear it.
150gp jewelry (silver sapphire set purchased from Myri way back when)
300 gold pieces
-should be able to donate some more (diamonds). post again in a bit for updated count.
For the record, I loved Kalimac's appropriation of Alaric's favorite expression, but I figured the openness with which they talked about Kalimac's relationship with Ameiko implied Hrunndalf was not around to hear it.
Why would Hrunndalf being around have changed Alaric or Kalimac's comments? (Or I thought Hrunndalf was around, since he hailed the giant.)
For the record, I loved Kalimac's appropriation of Alaric's favorite expression, but I figured the openness with which they talked about Kalimac's relationship with Ameiko implied Hrunndalf was not around to hear it.Why would Hrunndalf being around have changed Alaric or Kalimac's comments? (Or I thought Hrunndalf was around, since he hailed the giant.)
not to gang up on Hrunndalf, but I agree with Mel.
(edit: to add on: mostly because he hailed the giant. rather than in relation to what the other players might talk about, since i don't know them well enough to assume what they might or might not say) ;)
Why would Hrunndalf being around have changed Alaric or Kalimac's comments?
Because both Ameiko and Kalimac have so far been very secretive about their budding relationship? And at least Kalimac was not exactly feeling comfortable when he brought it up in private communication. But if it's finally out in the open, all the better.
Once Kalimac had his conversation with Hrunndalf, he hasn't been keeping his budding relationship with Ameiko as secret. He's not rubbing Hrunndalf's face it it either, though.
On a player level, I've been waiting to see how that first date went before talking about it in character. And since that went in Flex Time for quite a while, I didn't have much to say.
Also, due to work craziness and general time constraints, I haven't been posting as much, and haven't been covering the Ameiko/Kalimac relationship in the few posts I have been able to make.
So in the end I'd say Kalimac's and Alaric's comments were well within Hrunndalf's possible earshot. Whether he heard them or not is up to his player.
On a different note, I am now on a three week vacation. I'm not going anywhere; I needed to take the vacation or else I'd lose it. So in principle I should have more time for posting. But Christmas shopping may get in the way of posting at times. And my posting schedule will be very chaotic. (Don't expect too much from me before about 6 PM GMT.)
Now you all know. And knowing is half the battle. :)
So, one possible split might be:
Lio: 300 gp + 150 gp jewelry
Hrunndalf: 200 gp + 250 gp jewelry
Kalimac: 200 gp + 200 gp gems
Alaric: 800 gp
Myria: 100 gp + 350 gp jewelry
Rhost: 450 gp
TOTAL: 3000 gp
It has most of you paying 450 gp, Kalimac a little less, Melinda nothing, and Alaric significantly more but still keeping some money.
Unless told otherwise, I would assume that everyone would be compensated for this first at the next loot division, meaning in the end everyone would be effectively paying an even share (effectively in this plan, Alaric and others to a lesser degree would essentially be "loaning" Melinda her share of it and "topping off" Kalimac's contribution, but I'd keep track of it rather than you bothering with it.)
Sounds fair.
Myri has made this possible allocation on her offline spreadsheet. Any adjustments can still be easily made if there are any adjustments to be made.
Kalimac laughs. "You have a very dirty mind, Alaric.
Alaric's player looks down at his "Relax, it's just caulk" t-shirt and blinks innocently.
Unless told otherwise, I would assume that everyone would be compensated for this first at the next loot division, meaning in the end everyone would be effectively paying an even share (effectively in this plan, Alaric and others to a lesser degree would essentially be "loaning" Melinda her share of it and "topping off" Kalimac's contribution, but I'd keep track of it rather than you bothering with it.)
I think Melinda and Alaric can work out a fair repayment plan.
...what?
So, one possible split might be:
Lio: 300 gp + 150 gp jewelry
Hrunndalf: 200 gp + 250 gp jewelry
Kalimac: 200 gp + 200 gp gems
Alaric: 800 gp
Myria: 100 gp + 350 gp jewelry
Rhost: 450 gp
TOTAL: 3000 gp
Sounds reasonable. If anyone really wants to hang on to gems or jewelry if they are sentimental or you don't really want to part with them, but are doing so sorely so that we can get the map, I can part with up to 400gp of diamonds that haven't been made into glyphs yet (since you guys donated money towards the glyphs, I kept some in reserve to replenish the glyphs should they be discharged.)
I can go a bit higher on the gems to pay my fair share. Each Amethyst is 60 gp. If I give 6 of them, plus 210 gp in gold, then I'm in the same 450 gp as everyone else. And Alaric can keep an extra 50gp of his own stash.
Which means that Mel would owe everyone a little, and Alaric a lot.
The Map of the High Ice is now noted on Myriana's sheet under a "Party" spoiler.
Rhost has 425 gp, so we either adjust the payout slightly or I will add item(s) to make up the 25 gp difference.
i'll pay the additional 25gp for Rhost, if he promises not to make boiled Cabbage ;)